if you are wondering why Greece is always going down (Achilles)
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Steel, making jokes about my nick name and my daughter isnt the appropriate thing to do. It shows your character if you allow me to say that
I have already checked this video about killer and it simply justifies what I said about it. Dont make me say them again. It doesnt meet standards of a serious vaper and not mine too. You have to be so careful when you try to make those "adjustments" that you cant really adjust anything. You screw or unscrew one piece and the other piece gets unscrewed too.
If you have any video that justify your sayings about Ithaka, please post them here and I will post the double about the opposite. Also if some friends have a problem by building Ithaka they can check again all my videos and also the last one that I made by building a single coil.
I am waiting for your video to show me where your problems with building Ithaka are. If you dont make a video then you cant justify your words if you agree.
So because I am the creator of Ithaka, its easy for me to build it? So I am a superman when you are a simple guy?
I show how "easy" the killer creator builded its coils. I also show how "easy" he put wires inside the tiny holes of the ceramic and how easy he tried to put positive wire on the center post that if you dont put it on a table it will leave the mod. And I show how "easy" he put inside threads the negative wire and then he tried to screw threads with a wire on them
If you can build all those atomizers easy then you just dont want to admit that Ithaka is the most easy to build atomizer for your own personal reasons. I understand your reasons, Stelios has already talk to me about you
Trying to convince people that using a screwdriver to build an atomizer with tiny bolts when Ithaka has nothing to do with it, it means that you have a problem with me only.
If you think that your ironic comments are comments of a real and serious customer without any then you have to rethink the way you speak, post or communicate with other people around you. And the most sad thing is that you try hard to put down Ithaka when Ithaka is the best atomizer ever made. When your friends make something like Ithak, we can talk again.
Its also sad for me to see people like you trying to put down a modder in every possible way. You use bad words on Greek forum, you use tricky words on ecf and who knows what else. But the worse thing is that you dont know the reason of all these.
I have already checked this video about killer and it simply justifies what I said about it. Dont make me say them again. It doesnt meet standards of a serious vaper and not mine too. You have to be so careful when you try to make those "adjustments" that you cant really adjust anything. You screw or unscrew one piece and the other piece gets unscrewed too.
If you have any video that justify your sayings about Ithaka, please post them here and I will post the double about the opposite. Also if some friends have a problem by building Ithaka they can check again all my videos and also the last one that I made by building a single coil.
I am waiting for your video to show me where your problems with building Ithaka are. If you dont make a video then you cant justify your words if you agree.
So because I am the creator of Ithaka, its easy for me to build it? So I am a superman when you are a simple guy?
I show how "easy" the killer creator builded its coils. I also show how "easy" he put wires inside the tiny holes of the ceramic and how easy he tried to put positive wire on the center post that if you dont put it on a table it will leave the mod. And I show how "easy" he put inside threads the negative wire and then he tried to screw threads with a wire on them
If you can build all those atomizers easy then you just dont want to admit that Ithaka is the most easy to build atomizer for your own personal reasons. I understand your reasons, Stelios has already talk to me about you
Trying to convince people that using a screwdriver to build an atomizer with tiny bolts when Ithaka has nothing to do with it, it means that you have a problem with me only.
If you think that your ironic comments are comments of a real and serious customer without any then you have to rethink the way you speak, post or communicate with other people around you. And the most sad thing is that you try hard to put down Ithaka when Ithaka is the best atomizer ever made. When your friends make something like Ithak, we can talk again.
Its also sad for me to see people like you trying to put down a modder in every possible way. You use bad words on Greek forum, you use tricky words on ecf and who knows what else. But the worse thing is that you dont know the reason of all these.
Thanasi, if you dont want me here, just ask me to leave.
Also how many times are you going to edit that post after I have already replied?
I just edit spelling mistakes but you are a very suspicious person and you dont admit that you dont read anything different after my edit.
Thanasi, if you dont want me here, just ask me to leave.
Also how many times are you going to edit that post after I have already replied?
Of course I want you to leave but I first wanted to grab the opportunity to tell you some things before you leave. That way we can all understand what is going on here.
Now you are free to go.
Seriously you found that offensive ? It amazing how unwilling you are to accept criticism.
Also I never said the killer was good or easy to built or usable for that matter, I only said it was done before Achilles and that it has certain features.
Stop for a minute and listen to yourself. There is no such thing as the best, its subjective, different people have different needs, each individual enjoys different things, if Ithaka is the best for you does not mean that its the best for everyone else. People want choices.
If you know my reasons please explain them to me because frankly Im baffled and confuse you would think that.
What Stelios might have not told you is that I leave in Cyprus, I spend most of my time going back and forth to NY, SA and Cyprus and I have not visited Greece for the past 10 years so I dont understand what hidden agenda you might think I have.
I don't want to take part of this fight here, but I have a killer and it never worked with me in a tank. I put it down for a day and leaks all over. Liquid control is so frustrating!! However it is a great atomizer inside UFS, works perfectly (really UFS is to praise here since killer failed for me to work in a normal tank). If someone thinks I cannot make it work inside a tank because i lack skill, then this is a compliment to imeo, becaause I am able to make iatty, penelope, ody, UFS, and Ithaka work with ease. just my 
well, lets see if Ithaka that has all the features of the world on it, is still easy to be rebiuld
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so saying jokes about my nick name and my daughter is critisism to you? Maybe you have to rethink the way you think steel. I am really dissapointed. So if you make the same joke to any other member here you say that he has to feel comfortable? Try it and see what will happen
I hear myself and if you wonder why I say this, its because I know what exists in the market. My friends send me from time to time videos about new constructions and what I see just confirms what I say and what all people say.
I will tell you an exmple and maybe that way you will see how wrong you are. Older days, people didnt like the mechanical mod. Now all mods are mechanical. Later they didnt like telescope when now too many mods are like this. Later they didnt like a plastic and a pin inside the 510 connector and now all mods are like this. Later they didnt like the collector tank when now your friend Leo and others try to find ways to make collector tank to give taste to their atomizers etc. And every time all people were comparing GG line with other mods, trying to say that others were better. When other constructions finally went up to the same stage of GG by copying features, we were always one step further. And this step was still not good for them. Then when they reach us again, they were saying that their mod was the best (having the features that they didnt like earlier on GG) and GG was not what they liked. Until now, same thing happens. And this story keeps going because of people like you. So I am positive that I will always make bad mods when your lovely "modders" will always make nice mods. You just can face what is going on because you are not a free spirit
As for the choices you say, Ithaka has all choices. If you cant see them then I cant force you to see them. Its because if you keep your eyes closed you will always think that your mods will be always better.
Your reasons that you speak as you speak? Only you know them and I would be glad to hear them. But I can think of some of them:
Maybe you want to join the bad guys because they look more attractive?
Maybe they told you things about me that are not true?
Maybe you have to join bad guys because if you dont do that you will be out of their "nice" company?
Μaybe because a modder is a friend of yours and you try to advertise his mod?
Maybe because you just like to make trouble?
Maybe because your want to show to your friends how brave you are?
If I am wrong on those please give me the right reasons
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I am not going to argue any more with you as there is no point.
I will just say this and leave.
If Ithaka has all the choice then there is no reason for you to make another atomizer again EVER. Correct ?
The only reason I can think is simply your arrogance and unwillingness to admit certain things or take any kind of criticism.
A long time ago time when Henry Ford was incharge of ford automotive and used to only make one kind of car and only one color people wanted choices, Ford didnt give them choices and that almost drove Ford to bankruptcy. Later the Japanese started to make cars and everyone was complaining that they were cheap imitations.
Well I would take a Lexus over a ford any day now.
Also there are only so many ways you can built something. It doesnt mean they copied it from you!!!
When the Spanish first traveled to America you know what they found ? They found people that carried bows, arrows, slingshots and knifes, I am pretty sure the Mayans didnt steal the idea for knifes from the europeans or did they still the idea for their pyramids from the Egyptians.
I will just say this and leave.
If Ithaka has all the choice then there is no reason for you to make another atomizer again EVER. Correct ?
The only reason I can think is simply your arrogance and unwillingness to admit certain things or take any kind of criticism.
A long time ago time when Henry Ford was incharge of ford automotive and used to only make one kind of car and only one color people wanted choices, Ford didnt give them choices and that almost drove Ford to bankruptcy. Later the Japanese started to make cars and everyone was complaining that they were cheap imitations.
Well I would take a Lexus over a ford any day now.
Also there are only so many ways you can built something. It doesnt mean they copied it from you!!!
When the Spanish first traveled to America you know what they found ? They found people that carried bows, arrows, slingshots and knifes, I am pretty sure the Mayans didnt steal the idea for knifes from the europeans or did they still the idea for their pyramids from the Egyptians.
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And you still didnt make a post about my video for Ithaka. You only talk on theory. Is it like you said to all of us?
Can I wait for your video to show me your problems?
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Maybe I did but most of the time I correct spelling mistakes. And if I added a sentence, what is wrong with it?
Maybe you are a superman like me aal 
I don't want to take part of this fight here, but I have a killer and it never worked with me in a tank. I put it down for a day and leaks all over. Liquid control is so frustrating!! However it is a great atomizer inside UFS, works perfectly (really UFS is to praise here since killer failed for me to work in a normal tank). If someone thinks I cannot make it work inside a tank because i lack skill, then this is a compliment to imeo, becaause I am able to make iatty, penelope, ody, UFS, and Ithaka work with ease. just my
Have a nice day steel. I suggest you to read again what you wrote, why you wrote it and please check your style again.
jeezes all this because archilles was shelved... Im bummed about it, but have 2 other alternatives which are named in here one is for UFS and the other is a direct dripper with a dripshield versus using it in a tank , so not that bummed. since GG rba's came out first with ceramic cups , and which I still enjoy, can you expand on the ody dripper to give air control, similiar to what you have done for Ithaka?
You boys all done duking it out on the playground? This argument proved nothing, solved nothing, furthered nobody's knowledge or wisdom, and only served to anger and disappoint most everyone here.
Let's get back to the topic at hand. I'd like to know if the Sofia is a copy. There is significant evidence that it is. I know a lot of this information is all hush-hush eyes-only classified, but it would be real swell to know more about just what happened here. I use a couple of Leo products, and like them very much, and I do not believe he has ever made a product that was not his own creation to one extent or another. I also find it hard to believe he would deliberately create a knock-off, and choose that specific product to name after his wife.
Kindly correct and enlighten me on any and all of these points. And keep it professional folks. This is ECF, not the Spongebob Squarepants Forum.
Let's get back to the topic at hand. I'd like to know if the Sofia is a copy. There is significant evidence that it is. I know a lot of this information is all hush-hush eyes-only classified, but it would be real swell to know more about just what happened here. I use a couple of Leo products, and like them very much, and I do not believe he has ever made a product that was not his own creation to one extent or another. I also find it hard to believe he would deliberately create a knock-off, and choose that specific product to name after his wife.
Kindly correct and enlighten me on any and all of these points. And keep it professional folks. This is ECF, not the Spongebob Squarepants Forum.
EXACTLY Kata. Thats what I am always trying to inculcate with my attitute all those 5 years. But some people just cant understand
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