im so scared. i have spent close to 300 on stuff so far it says i will break even on nov 27 but holy crap. i notice im still smoking an analog every now and then about 5 a day i feel so guilty about this im only 18 but ive been smokin since i was 13 and i know its bad. the reason i spent so much is i just bought my mom a kit too because i want her to stop before its too late. is this good of me or not?
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The important thing is to sit back, enjoy what you have purchased, and do not feel guilty. If you want to stop spending money,then take a break from shopping. Let yourself be happy with your current supplies, and use them, get to know them well, learn the sweet spot, it will help you fine tune your vaping experience, and most of all give yourself more time to adjust It is a process, and there is no set amount of time that is right, just what works for you. Once you get low on juice, get more, but don't troll the websites if you are trying not to spend, it is easy to keep getting things here and there, I know because I have a TON of e cig stuff. I think it's good you are trying to cut out smoking cigs at such an early age. I know many people who vaped and smoked for a while, it is a difficult transition, the last thing you need to do is make it harder on yourself by feeling guilty for getting started vaping. Sit back, take a deep breath, appreciate the wonderful stuff you have now, and let yourself feel good about vaping. When you are ready, you will stop smoking regular cigs.
I'm so happy for you that you're making the effort. Please remember that the transition is not immediate for most people. It took my husband a month....and it took me six months. He had smoked for 32 years and I for 25.
This requires fine tuning in order to change your habbit. For me one of the factors was that I ordered nic juice that wasn't strong enough. You may want to get stronger nic juice and see if that helps. I started at 12mg, then moved to 24....after a while, my needs lessened and now I'm at 18mg. Another thing is I bought all these "slick" kits that didn't have enough power to give me the vapor or the throat hit I needed. Unfortunately, this all means that there is some trial and error in your new venture.
Don't feel guilty for making a positive change for both you and your mom. Take your time, and by all means....when you run into frustration...make sure you stop by and ask for help...there are many of us who are here to help you through this. You're in the right place and going in the right direction. I know you will make it...just gotta hang in there!
This requires fine tuning in order to change your habbit. For me one of the factors was that I ordered nic juice that wasn't strong enough. You may want to get stronger nic juice and see if that helps. I started at 12mg, then moved to 24....after a while, my needs lessened and now I'm at 18mg. Another thing is I bought all these "slick" kits that didn't have enough power to give me the vapor or the throat hit I needed. Unfortunately, this all means that there is some trial and error in your new venture.
Don't feel guilty for making a positive change for both you and your mom. Take your time, and by all means....when you run into frustration...make sure you stop by and ask for help...there are many of us who are here to help you through this. You're in the right place and going in the right direction. I know you will make it...just gotta hang in there!
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A few years back I thought I could use 'snus' to quit smoking or at least cut back on the cigs, I went to google and searched 'snus' to find more information on what it was... and immediately there was a picture of some schmuck, early twenty-something guy who had like 12 snus packets in his mouth all at once... <face-palm>
I only pass along info about e-cigs to people who I know have been smoking for decades and are VERY serious about quitting analogs for good.
You have to enjoy the vapor\flavor and realize how much damage would have been done to your lungs if all those tokes were off analog cigs.
I only pass along info about e-cigs to people who I know have been smoking for decades and are VERY serious about quitting analogs for good.
You have to enjoy the vapor\flavor and realize how much damage would have been done to your lungs if all those tokes were off analog cigs.
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Of course, that's a great thing to do, buying your mom a kit. The way I look at it, even if smoking e-cigs cost twice as much as smoking, not getting lung cancer is worth it. Doubly if you can help your mom quit too. But the thing is... it's actually way cheaper than smoking. It's just getting the initial equipment and finding juice you love that's more of an investment. Pretty soon the habit will pay for itself.
As long as you're ok with what you're spending, it's fine. If you're not, then re-evaluate your spending.
Do I think it's bad you bought your mother a kit? Of course not. Who on earth would think that? That's a very kind thing to do.
Don't rush quitting cigs. Just keep smoking less, and soon you'll be smoking none. You really sound like you're doing ok. Feeling guilty only makes you more stressed out, and makes it harder to quit. Don't pressure yourself. It's not a sin to smoke a cigarette. Quitting is hard, and for a lot of people here, it does take time.
Get this idea that you're "bad" out of your head.
There's no moral weight attached to when, how much, or how long, you have smoked. It doesn't make you a bad person.You're young, trying to quit smoking, and trying to help your mother. Nothing about that sounds bad to me.
Hi Schecter no reason to feel guilty just enjoy it if someone must feel guilty it's me I just spend in the last two days $360 but please check your purchases if you can't afford it don't get yourself into trouble money wise better to budget for you new hobby than just to buy on impulse.
I almost went off to buy more supplies, but I decided to try to take it easy and just wait for my first batch of e-juices. This sampler menthol pack is starting to taste ehh to me and I've only been vaping for 1 day.
I do have to say that I have a less desire to touch a dirty smelly cig
Also, Kudos to you for looking out not just for yourself, but for your mother as well. It is definitely money well spent. I'm currently also trying to get my best friend to transition over to e-cigs with me. He is a way heavier smoker than myself.
Good luck, and don't give up!
look into DIY stuff...make ur own mods and e-juice if u have the time and skills to do so...u can save so much money... I think its great u woould do that for ur mom ... good luck to both of u
Let me See? $300.00! That would just about make a down payment on the stuff I've bought in the last 4+ months. But, you know, I no longer smoke, and that is a really good thing after 55 plus years of puffing away like a chimney.
Hey there!
Just to let you know, you are not alone! I am on the same boat. I started 2 weeks now and I have spent close to $430.
I have got alot of juices, from 6 suppliers, each purchase was roughly $50-$60 hopefully will last me few months.
I got 2 starter kits + supplies for me and my best friend. I hope I can help her cut down from a PAD or quit.
I do still smoke analog once in a while. Like today, none of the cartos seems to function very well. I've been topping them off and still couldn't get good vape. Tried different ones, different juice and still crave for nic. Tried the drip tip... Drip - vape - vape -vape -vape. Drip - vape - vape -vape -vape ... was going nutz. So I just pulled out an analog, lit it up (tasted like crap though), but w/e having a bad day.
But hey.... without the e-cig I would have been smoking at least 14 packs, but i only smoked less than a pack since the kit came. Hang in there!
Just to let you know, you are not alone! I am on the same boat. I started 2 weeks now and I have spent close to $430.
I have got alot of juices, from 6 suppliers, each purchase was roughly $50-$60 hopefully will last me few months.
I got 2 starter kits + supplies for me and my best friend. I hope I can help her cut down from a PAD or quit.
I do still smoke analog once in a while. Like today, none of the cartos seems to function very well. I've been topping them off and still couldn't get good vape. Tried different ones, different juice and still crave for nic. Tried the drip tip... Drip - vape - vape -vape -vape. Drip - vape - vape -vape -vape ... was going nutz. So I just pulled out an analog, lit it up (tasted like crap though), but w/e having a bad day.
But hey.... without the e-cig I would have been smoking at least 14 packs, but i only smoked less than a pack since the kit came. Hang in there!
I think you are doing the right thing. I wish they would have had E-cigs around when I was 18. Now, after 44 years of lung damaging smoke, I'm done with 'em.
Don't feel bad about puffing a real cig now and then, eventually you will be smoke free. And for what its worth, I spent over $360 my first month of vaping. About half of that on hardware and the rest on E-liquid that I saw someone raving over here on the forum.
Learned my lesson there. What tastes like Filet Mignon to one person, tastes like sourkraut to another, LOL. Now I am getting by on only about $60 a month. And I'm a chain vaper, just as I was a chain smoker.
That was very nice of you to get your Mother a kit too. If she is open to the idea and willing to give it a try, you can support each other in this.
Good luck to you and your Mom.
Don't feel bad about puffing a real cig now and then, eventually you will be smoke free. And for what its worth, I spent over $360 my first month of vaping. About half of that on hardware and the rest on E-liquid that I saw someone raving over here on the forum.
Learned my lesson there. What tastes like Filet Mignon to one person, tastes like sourkraut to another, LOL. Now I am getting by on only about $60 a month. And I'm a chain vaper, just as I was a chain smoker.
That was very nice of you to get your Mother a kit too. If she is open to the idea and willing to give it a try, you can support each other in this.
Good luck to you and your Mom.
Don't give up! It's going to take some time to find out what works for you. Congrats on buying your mom one, too! Look at it this way. If you're smoking one or two analogs a day; how much better for your lungs is that in the long run than smoking 1 pack or two a day? Don't feel guilty, either. You'll hit your stride. For me; it was all about finding the right eliquid . . . not so much about the equipment. It's a transitional period. Hang in there and good luck!
Hey there!
Just to let you know, you are not alone! I am on the same boat. I started 2 weeks now and I have spent close to $430.
I have got alot of juices, from 6 suppliers, each purchase was roughly $50-$60 hopefully will last me few months.
I got 2 starter kits + supplies for me and my best friend. I hope I can help her cut down from a PAD or quit.
I do still smoke analog once in a while. Like today, none of the cartos seems to function very well. I've been topping them off and still couldn't get good vape. Tried different ones, different juice and still crave for nic. Tried the drip tip... Drip - vape - vape -vape -vape. Drip - vape - vape -vape -vape ... was going nutz. So I just pulled out an analog, lit it up (tasted like crap though), but w/e having a bad day.
But hey.... without the e-cig I would have been smoking at least 14 packs, but i only smoked less than a pack since the kit came. Hang in there!
First off... schecter-d666 It's great that you found PV's to get off tobacco and that you're helping your mom too. I hope you can pay for what you spent but there's no doubt it's worth it. I agree with oldgoat that you can save a lot with DIY stuff like mods and buying glycerin at the drug store or walmart. edit: There are also threads here where people trade and give stuff away and plenty who will help you build mods. PM me!
KissMint--- I went through that and have heard others say the same thing too.... the basic ecigs didn't give the vapor or consistency I needed so I almost stopped.... but then I found mods! There are a lot of juice box type mods out there and I made my own pump version. You can have every puff that taste like it was just dripped but w/o the hassles of dripping or filling carts.
Also, I found higher nicotine content like 36mg was good for quitting tobacco, then taper down on nic to like 11 or 18mg.
It's amazing to read through these threads and see people like banjo who have quit tobacco after decades of use. Congratulations banjo!! PV's are a wonderful thing!!
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I agree with the others! Relax, and let the vaping do all the work for you. When you're focused on "quitting", you're focused on analogs... when we're focused on analogs, we're focused on smoking. Don't go there. Chain vape instead... get 2 pvs going so you don't hotbox one, and vape yourself through the analog crave. It took me a week to get rid of those last clingy 4 analogs... I was getting scared too, until I realized I could omit 1 more to the burn pile and be down to 3 and then 2... and the rest is history. Stress will make it harder for you... don't give yourself undo stress. Relax! It'll take care of itself... it's mainly a matter of the right pv, right for you at the moment Flavor, .... and the excitement of literally being able to shop again after all those years of being at the mercy of the tobacco companies. Tobacco products are going sky high... people in NY are paying 100 bucks and more per carton! That'd be 600 bucks a month if I were still hooked.... my investmenet in ecigs is measly compared to that. (coming soon to a town near you I imagine). Heck with the tax man... shop shop til you drop those analogs!
I know that it is hard to stop smoking completely, I quit in August and since have had two analogs just about a week ago. I actually bought a pack, because I was about 100 miles from home and I was feeling stressed, my gums were in the sensitive stage and was driving for a long time and long drives were always heavy smoking times for me. So, I smoked two and left the rest of the pack in my mothers car. They tasted nasty, like licking an ashtray, it actually felt quite unnatural, there was very little pleasure in it compared to the enjoyment I used to receive from vaping. I never told myself I was going to quit, I allow myself to smoke, however, when I quit cold turkey, there is no way I could have just walked away from a pack of cigarettes I had bought. I would have smoked the pack of them in a day.
Shamefully, the primary reason I quit was to save money, so that is the strongest drive I have not to go back to analogs. It's funny the way addiction plays tricks on a person. I had spend about the same amount I would have had I been buying the 2 packs a day I was up to on all my equipment, but it just made me sick to my stomach. However, after the first month or so, the spending drops incredibly. Especially if you have a couple good reliable kits that don't make you worried that you will be in an emergency need situation. I feel that alot of my spending is a holdover from smoking analogs, that NEED to make sure you never run out. Though I have plenty of batteries, atties, and juice now, I still get that anxiety that I had when I was smoking and down to the last cigarette of the pack and stranded somewhere.
I have handled this by allowing myself a certain amount each month to spend and that is it. I'm looking at about $30-$60 month (drastically less than analogs). That buys alot of equipment and juice.
So after the initial spending I'm stocked up on juices, atties and batteries, I can sustain vaping very comfortably with that budget.
For example-
This month I plan to buy another Riva Kit when they go on sale
Riva kit - 2 battery backups, 2 (3) extra atties, backup charger $32
60ml juice from Vapor Renu $22
So that's under $60 for the month and gives me more backups
In December I probably will just get a 900Mah battery and juice, about $45
January juice and 5 attys ($30), that'll be about $50
That is vaping comfortably to me, because I'll buy backup items every month and I have so much juice I won't run out for quite awhile even going a couple months without buying any. It does even out, but those first couple of months you kind of keep that addicted mindset of smoking analogs, not that this isn't an addiction, it's just a less aggressive one.
It is scary to see money going out, but keep it in perspective to the cost of analogs in a month. The first couple of months is when you will spend the most. You're so young, you actually have a much better financial reason to quit. I smoked for about 18 years, you can have a lifetime of years not spending that money on analogs. If you keep spending under control and only buy what you need to vape comfortably it's very manageable.
I mean, look at the money. For me in PA a pack of analogs is about $5 so if you only smoke a pack a day that is $180. $180x12=$2,160
Start up cost of vaping (with kits, juice, backups, cartos and passthroughs) $300 every month after $50 for juice and backups $50x11=$550
So it will come to about $1,310 yearly savings for someone that smokes a PAD in Pennsylvania. So, in twenty years in PA an 18-year-old that smoked and switched to vaping will save about $26,200. And don't worry about those analogs, bottomline, vaping is more enjoyable and makes the analogs taste bad.
Oops, I calculated that wrong, the $1,310 in yearly savings for the first year. For years after that it should be about $1560 in yearly savings with a $50 budget per month.....It's all hypothetical anyway, but you will stop spending money and start saving the longer you stay with it.
Shamefully, the primary reason I quit was to save money, so that is the strongest drive I have not to go back to analogs. It's funny the way addiction plays tricks on a person. I had spend about the same amount I would have had I been buying the 2 packs a day I was up to on all my equipment, but it just made me sick to my stomach. However, after the first month or so, the spending drops incredibly. Especially if you have a couple good reliable kits that don't make you worried that you will be in an emergency need situation. I feel that alot of my spending is a holdover from smoking analogs, that NEED to make sure you never run out. Though I have plenty of batteries, atties, and juice now, I still get that anxiety that I had when I was smoking and down to the last cigarette of the pack and stranded somewhere.
I have handled this by allowing myself a certain amount each month to spend and that is it. I'm looking at about $30-$60 month (drastically less than analogs). That buys alot of equipment and juice.
So after the initial spending I'm stocked up on juices, atties and batteries, I can sustain vaping very comfortably with that budget.
For example-
This month I plan to buy another Riva Kit when they go on sale
Riva kit - 2 battery backups, 2 (3) extra atties, backup charger $32
60ml juice from Vapor Renu $22
So that's under $60 for the month and gives me more backups
In December I probably will just get a 900Mah battery and juice, about $45
January juice and 5 attys ($30), that'll be about $50
That is vaping comfortably to me, because I'll buy backup items every month and I have so much juice I won't run out for quite awhile even going a couple months without buying any. It does even out, but those first couple of months you kind of keep that addicted mindset of smoking analogs, not that this isn't an addiction, it's just a less aggressive one.
It is scary to see money going out, but keep it in perspective to the cost of analogs in a month. The first couple of months is when you will spend the most. You're so young, you actually have a much better financial reason to quit. I smoked for about 18 years, you can have a lifetime of years not spending that money on analogs. If you keep spending under control and only buy what you need to vape comfortably it's very manageable.
I mean, look at the money. For me in PA a pack of analogs is about $5 so if you only smoke a pack a day that is $180. $180x12=$2,160
Start up cost of vaping (with kits, juice, backups, cartos and passthroughs) $300 every month after $50 for juice and backups $50x11=$550
So it will come to about $1,310 yearly savings for someone that smokes a PAD in Pennsylvania. So, in twenty years in PA an 18-year-old that smoked and switched to vaping will save about $26,200. And don't worry about those analogs, bottomline, vaping is more enjoyable and makes the analogs taste bad.
Oops, I calculated that wrong, the $1,310 in yearly savings for the first year. For years after that it should be about $1560 in yearly savings with a $50 budget per month.....It's all hypothetical anyway, but you will stop spending money and start saving the longer you stay with it.
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Hi Shecter. I have spent a lot too on my new vaping adventure. I bought myself a kit, my husband a kit, a PCC and lots of different 5 ml bottles of juices to try out. It has not been cheap BUT this is how I am viewing it right now.... My health has been really bad for a long time. Because of analogs, I could not get my asthma, mirgaines or diabetes under control. I have missed A LOT of work and my pocketbook has suffered from it, not to mention that I have been too sick to even enjoy my life. I a have been existing but not living. For me, it is worth the money it costs to vape as apposed to smoke. After just this short time, I have not had to use my enhaler, I am sleeping through the night. I have had headaches but no migraines and my sugar levels are under control.
Your right, it is expensive to get started but now that I have all my stuff, I figure it is going to be cheaper than smoking (I was a 2 pack a day smoker) and I am already feeling soooooo much better.
Please don't give up on it. It is so worth the money and the effort it takes to get used to the "new" way of doing things. Good luck to
Your right, it is expensive to get started but now that I have all my stuff, I figure it is going to be cheaper than smoking (I was a 2 pack a day smoker) and I am already feeling soooooo much better.
Please don't give up on it. It is so worth the money and the effort it takes to get used to the "new" way of doing things. Good luck to
Well $300.00 is just under 4 cartons of cigarettes. Takes some people longer than others and there is a learning curve and an acclimation period but when your ready it will happen. I smoked longer than you been alive and quit right after I started vaping but it took a little adjusting. Don't worry about it and it will happen. I know a lady who bought one and hasn't even tried it yet. Everyone in their own time.
PS: Remember nothing changes if nothing changes.
PS: Remember nothing changes if nothing changes.
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Congratulations on your decision to quit smoking and how awesome of you to buy a kit for your mom as well!! Don't be hard on yourself, quitting smoking is extremely hard and you're gonna do it ) I felt guilty last month because I went from smoking a PAD to vaping and I spent quite a bit but the stuff I bought has lasted me a month and I haven't had to spend any additional money. I had bought an Njoy Npro and then a week later had ordered two Joye510's (one for me, one for my bf) but it pays out in the end! I stopped smoking in one day BUT IT WASN'T EASY. Even with vaping I was craving a cigarette (I probably started out on too low of a nicotine level) and I suffered until I adjusted. Keep at it and you'll get it!!
) I felt guilty last month because I went from smoking a PAD to vaping and I spent quite a bit but the stuff I bought has lasted me a month and I haven't had to spend any additional money. I had bought an Njoy Npro and then a week later had ordered two Joye510's (one for me, one for my bf) but it pays out in the end! I stopped smoking in one day BUT IT WASN'T EASY. Even with vaping I was craving a cigarette (I probably started out on too low of a nicotine level) and I suffered until I adjusted. Keep at it and you'll get it!!
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