i'm getting tired of this...

[GoodDog]

Here's another idea; Janty (also in UK) sells 510 attys with a 6 month warranty. I don't know what makes them different but I bought 2 a year and a half ago and they still work like new. i don't use them all the time but I did for many months and still use them to drip when I test my DIY. Just thought I would throw that out and good luck.

 

[Water Plus Fire]

This thread is turning into one of those deals that runs people off. The guy is already saying he does not want to spend a lot of money and someone suggested a GG? haha
The ego stuff is great when you buy the right atties/cartos. I am new to this, true but I also know the things that make sense.... This unobtainium mod talk is not one of them.
Stick with the ego or Tornado or whatever and try GoodDogs idea.



~sent from my Toaster Oven

 

[CraigHB]

Everyone says the eGo and similar e-cigs like the Riva are the cheapest, but I would argue they are not as cheap as you might think. I don't use the eGos anymore, but my wife has been for a year. They're good for her because they're compact and easy to deal with. However, in my experience, I haven't found them to be all that cheap. For one, they don't last that long. My wife gets maybe 100 charge cycles off one before she starts complaining about loss of run time. Then they fail a lot. In a year, I've had to buy a dozen of them for her. Just had one fail today and bought a couple more. I could have bought a couple nice mods and plenty of cell batts for what I've spent on eGos.

A good mod is going to have lower cost of ownership. You pay more up front, but save in the long run. Replacing a $6 cell battery is a lot easier on the wallet than a $20 battery unit. I'd talk my wife into using one but she's funny that way. When she gets used to something, she doesn't want me messing with her scene.

 

[DuncanDisordely]

...SNIP....i've had 6 batteries in during the year. Cronus6 - unfortunately 2 of them died within a day when i started using LR atomisers, so i'll be steering clear of them i think......SNIP...

Remember that LF will warrenty batteries in most cases, give them a call/email when they die and mention the order ref, I have the Riva901 which has terrible battery problems and they always sort me out.

Good Luck and Happy Vaping!

 

[Vidi]

I have been getting LR cisco spec Attis from Avid Vaper. At first they were awesome. The first two I got kept me going for almost five months. I used each for two days then soaked in 91% alcohol over night, let air dry several hours then switched out.

The last eight however have only lasted about a week or two each. Either way, they produce fantastic vapor and taste. I got two LR's from Liberty Flights, a reliable source for everything else, and they were horrible. They worked but produced no real vapor, no real taste. So disappointing from an otherwise superior seller.

 

[Hellen A. Handbasket]

I use atomizers [Joye 510] exclusively and was killing them [and other types] within two weeks on average.

For me it was finding the right fluid. Since I have found what works for me I've doubled [and counting] the life of my attys.

Is individual habit related to the optimal liquid for all vapors???

Something to explore.

Hello Dear progg! You're right. Finding the right liquid is half the battle. Many of the e-liquids are very dark (and heavy in particles) and they'll kill or clog an atomizer fast. When I switched from coffee flavored liquids over to a clear tobacco (Halo) I started getting up to 3 months out of my attys (302). I also didn't seem to get that gawdawful burnt tire taste in a 510 atomizer (which I suspect is caused by caramelization of that heavy flavoring on the wick/coil just as much as it is by noobieness vaping an atty dry).

I'm surprised this thread is still running. Mammoth said he ordered cartos and the OP said he had Riva batteries he was happy with (other than a few dead soldiers that probably need the center post pulled up in them). LOL

 

[Water Plus Fire]

Everyone says the eGo and similar e-cigs like the Riva are the cheapest, but I would argue they are not as cheap as you might think. I don't use the eGos anymore, but my wife has been for a year. They're good for her because they're compact and easy to deal with. However, in my experience, I haven't found them to be all that cheap. For one, they don't last that long. My wife gets maybe 100 charge cycles off one before she starts complaining about loss of run time. Then they fail a lot. In a year, I've had to buy a dozen of them for her. Just had one fail today and bought a couple more. I could have bought a couple nice mods and plenty of cell batts for what I've spent on eGos.

A good mod is going to have lower cost of ownership. You pay more up front, but save in the long run. Replacing a $6 cell battery is a lot easier on the wallet than a $20 battery unit. I'd talk my wife into using one but she's funny that way. When she gets used to something, she doesn't want me messing with her scene.

Completely agree but you have to admit that spending $300 on something that only ships when the Van Allen belts are out of alignment is a bit ridic. I have an AltSmoke myself so I can't preach but if I only had 50-75 bucks I'm not so sure what I would spend it on. It is a little daunting to read about how your only hope is to go a good ways towards paying off Greece's national debt to buy some crazy contraption to essentially create steam. I think they're cool looking and all but come on man.
Not trying to ruffle any feathers just trying to keep it real.

 

[progg]

Hello Dear progg! You're right. Finding the right liquid is half the battle. Many of the e-liquids are very dark (and heavy in particles) and they'll kill or clog an atomizer fast. When I switched from coffee flavored liquids over to a clear tobacco (Halo) I started getting up to 3 months out of my attys (302). I also didn't seem to get that gawdawful burnt tire taste in a 510 atomizer (which I suspect is caused by caramelization of that heavy flavoring on the wick/coil just as much as it is by noobieness vaping an atty dry).

I'm surprised this thread is still running. Mammoth said he ordered cartos and the OP said he had Riva batteries he was happy with (other than a few dead soldiers that probably need the center post pulled up in them). LOL

I couldn't agree more.

 

[progg]

I have been getting LR cisco spec Attis from Avid Vaper. At first they were awesome. The first two I got kept me going for almost five months. I used each for two days then soaked in 91% alcohol over night, let air dry several hours then switched out.

The last eight however have only lasted about a week or two each. Either way, they produce fantastic vapor and taste. I got two LR's from Liberty Flights, a reliable source for everything else, and they were horrible. They worked but produced no real vapor, no real taste. So disappointing from an otherwise superior seller.

Hey Vidi. The only maintenance I've been doing is : blow out once [maybe twice] per day and let it drain overnight.

I bring this up because -- sometimes it seems [not you necessarily] we over do maintenance. I'm firmly convinced finding the right fluid makes vaping easier and far less frustrating.

I got sick to death of trying various cleaning methods and getting dismal results. Some methods might even be hastening the attys demise and others might be hazardous for our health.

Have a good one.......

 

[wdave]

Hey Vidi. The only maintenance I've been doing is : blow out once [maybe twice] per day and let it drain overnight.

I bring this up because -- sometimes it seems [not you necessarily] we over do maintenance. I'm firmly convinced finding the right fluid makes vaping easier and far less frustrating.

I got sick to death of trying various cleaning methods and getting dismal results. Some methods might even be hastening the attys demise and others might be hazardous for our health.

Have a good one.......

If the cost of juice is NOT at least twice the cost of your hardware, then you are paying to much for hardware. Those of us who have the right hardware know that hardware maintenance costs are not very important.

K.I.S.S and you will never complain about hardware maintenance cost again. Just the juice.

HTH,
Dave

 

[Abe]

Mammoth, why didn't you buy the replacement from us?

 

[mammoth]

Hi Abe, in retrospect I perhaps should have but I find your store to be marginally more expensive than most others.

Anyway, I bought those Boge carts from you and I like them. My only concern is that they behave an a strange way after a day or so of use. When I press the button on my battery nothing happens for about a second and then there is an almighty pop before it kicks in. I'm on my second cart and it's doing the same on both. Anyone encountered this before?

 

[CraigHB]

I've had them do that before, but I wouldnt' call it an "almighty pop". It's a distinct pop though. I don't worry about it and then it goes away after a while. I think they just do that sometimes. They're noisy even when they're behaving normally.

 

[mammoth]

it popped so loudly earlier that it spat hot e-liquid right out of the hole in the end and into my eye!
and yes i realise that this sounds like a euphemism lol. i can assure you it's not...

it doesn't seem to do it on my housemates ego-t battery, so i'm using one of those for the time being.

 

[jimbalny]

Sounds like u dripped too much liquid in there, thats when u get it spurting.

+1 for boge cartomizers. I've also had bad luck with 510 atties, ego b atties, a big money pit. I've found success with boge cartos, great taste. Also I'd reccommend trying lr 306's with a cannon drip tip from cherry vape. If u drip more than 2 or 3 drops they leak, BUT produce really nice flavorful vapor and LAST. U gotta get the cannon tip though, otherwise it gets pretty hot. Boge cartos and this 306 setup has been getting me by for a whole month haven't bought any other atties.

 

[Credo]

i've been vaping for just over a year, with varying success. my main cig is a riva510, but i've used a few different atomisers along the way. just recently my housemates bought ego ts but that's a different story.

let me begin.

my riva 510 worked well from the start, but atomisers never lasted very long before becoming hard to pull on and providing less and less vapour with less and less flavour.

i purchased an atomiser from liberty flights which lasted a couple of weeks before starting to flag. this is normal in my experience, i'm amazed when people say theirs can last months. £10 for 2 weeks vaping.

i bought a new one from totally wicked which produced little to no vapour. DOA policy only. £10 down the drain.
i bought a new one from cloud9vaping which produced a horrific burnt taste and was offered nothing as recompence, just excuses.
i bought 5 from greenhouseone, some of which worked fine and lasted a couple of weeks, some of which produced little to no vapour and some of which tasted absolutely disgusting no matter how much cleaning i did.
i bought some cartomisers from vapertrails. they taste very weird... you can barely taste the liquid, just the filler. sort of a farmyard flavour, not as unleasant as it sounds but not ideal either. they leak like nobody's business too.
my brother bought an ego t from greenhouseone. one atomiser died within 1 minute, the other tasted burnt from the off. he bought a 3rd party replacement atomiser which works better but the tanks leak when used with it.
my other housemate bought an ego t from greenhouseone and it came with different atomisers (not branded with the ego t mark) and different tanks (not filled, clear instead of blue). they taste lovely but leak like sin.

none of these shops offer any help other than to suggest buying another battery/atomiser/tank combination. i'm currently without an e cig unless i use the weird tasting carts, and tbh i'm close to packing it in and getting some cutters choice

i'm willing to give it one last go, i'll spend up to £50 on a decent ecig from a UK store where i can get good quality replacement parts for it. please can anyone help me out here, i'm tired of throwing away my money on bits that don't work like they're supposed to.

cheers for listening to my rant, hope someone can help

In perspective:
At 5 to 8 bucks each for an atomizer (USD, not sure what would be in Sterling or Euros these days, and thats for the really fine custom ones from places like Inkenvape). Even if it only lasts you two weeks, that is less than $1.14 USD per day.

Not sure what liquid you use and how much, but it is very realistic to be able to vape for well less than 2 dollars per day, even if you're chucking atties often.

I've got mine down to under $1 a day now, but I'm able to turn up the heat and revive aging atties/cartos using the Darwin.

I'm not sure what Tobacco cost in the UK these days, but here at home...even if I get the expensive atties and throw them away every two weeks, it is still one third the cost of smoking tobacco.

 

[jimbalny]

In perspective:
At 5 to 8 bucks each for an atomizer (USD, not sure what would be in Sterling or Euros these days, and thats for the really fine custom ones from places like Inkenvape). Even if it only lasts you two weeks, that is less than $1.14 USD per day.

Not sure what liquid you use and how much, but it is very realistic to be able to vape for well less than 2 dollars per day, even if you're chucking atties often.

I've got mine down to under $1 a day now, but I'm able to turn up the heat and revive aging atties/cartos using the Darwin.

I'm not sure what Tobacco cost in the UK these days, but here at home...even if I get the expensive atties and throw them away every two weeks, it is still one third the cost of smoking tobacco.

He's talking about atties that he gets that aren't dead, but just don't produce as they should which - I've experienced many times from multiple vendors. Its a shame the poor quality control on these things.especially given the price, its like russian roullette with your hard earned moneys.

I've heard ikenvape has some quality stuff, it seems u could attest?

 

[Credo]

He's talking about atties that he gets that aren't dead, but just don't produce as they should which - I've experienced many times from multiple vendors. Its a shame the poor quality control on these things.especially given the price, its like russian roullette with your hard earned moneys.

I've heard ikenvape has some quality stuff, it seems u could attest?

I've been keen on cheap HV SLB or DSE 801 atties with carts myself, as I can find them often in close-out bins for $5 each or less ( http://www.myvaporstore.com/High_Voltage_HV_DSE_801_PEN_Atomizer_p/hv801at.htm ). I do have Variable Power which makes a big difference in that I can keep bumping them up a little hotter over the weeks. You'd definitely want at least 5v to use these...6v or more to really get them pumping.

For Standard and LR 510 and 901 stuff I've been testing all sorts of stuff and have lost track. So far I like the Cisco 510 from Nhaler, but haven't really 'stress tested' one hard just yet to see how long it will last under extreme vaping conditions. I've not yet tried Inkenvape, but will soon try the Cannon series (801 on 510 threads) as I'm a fan of the 801 and Mega 510 over-sized atties. If the Cannon works on a bottom fed mod I'll be a very happy camper

 

[jimbalny]

I was thinking about a provari, but by the time u get the batts and stuff its about as much as a darwin. How is the darwin as far as holding up to be taken out and about?

 

[Credo]

I was thinking about a provari, but by the time u get the batts and stuff its about as much as a darwin. How is the darwin as far as holding up to be taken out and about?

Great for me so far. Mind you I'm pretty easy on my stuff, even when I'm on the go. Case in point, I've been carrying my same cell-phone made of cheap plastic in my front pocket for over 10 years now. I've got a laptop that I've hauled all over the world for over 5 years...it's cheap flimsy plastic too, and it's fine. The Darwin is atomized aluminum with a fine ceramic based finish. Quality stuff with a serious transferable warranty. If someone breaks one of these...they must be mistaking it for their ball ping hammer, a crow bar, or dropping it on really rough concrete like 50 times a day!

I got a drip shield for mine as well from Empire mods since that is the ONE thing Darwin doesn't have on it out of the box, and while I like it (it tightens up the draw a bit), I've found that it's not 'needed' really. It will be kind of hard to get liquid INSIDE a Darwin...and if you do, it has protection for all the e-parts inside. Just blow out the dial with a can of air and vape on

The button is short action with a stiff tactile click. I personally LIKE it, but it is one pretty big difference from other mods that have larger/squishy-like buttons, or a longer action.