In light of everything else - What a crock...
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Unreal! This drug made it around like a Nickelback song with friends and family of mine and I warned them the best I could but I had no clue the side effects would be that bad 
Just goes to prove again that BP has HC by the .....
Just goes to prove again that BP has HC by the .....
Ive used this drug in the past to quit and with all drugs of this nature the family doctor does ask if you have heart issues or high blood pressure. This paticular drug made me actually smoke more as opposed to quit unlike the other drug I used to quit.
What seems to be the "crock" here..... Seems pretty standard statement to me, look at FDA commercials on drugs just south of us, there must me at least 30+ "possible effects" the ramble on about "if taking"
What seems to be the "crock" here..... Seems pretty standard statement to me, look at FDA commercials on drugs just south of us, there must me at least 30+ "possible effects" the ramble on about "if taking"
The crock is that HC supports a drug that is known to have ALARMING side effects, to include but not limited to suicidal tendencies, yet take a very blasé approach to the subject IMO. I haven't seen a vaper try to commit suicide, have you?
Well Switch.... I do not know that many vapers but the correlation between mental health and pharma drugs is a huge debate. I realize the controversy when HC is opposed to the vaping issues and devices but IMHO, there are risks to just about anything one puts into or exposes themselves too in this planet. Just yesterday I saw a news bulletin stating that men are now determined to be at risk taking the 81mg aspirin. Our system is messed on many points and we could debate for hours - I get it trust me!
Was always taught - Politics, religion, financial are best left alone for debates!
They say we live in a democratic society? I beg to differ....
An anecdotal tale about Chantix surfaced the other day. A friend of mine's husband is a deputy sheriff. They received a call about 3am one morning about a lady wandering around the neighborhood in a nightgown in 30 degree temps. They responded and found the lady, who was incoherent and shivering. After a few minutes in the squad car, she began to warm up and became responsive.
They were able to find out where she lived and took her to her home. The doors were locked and they could see that the burglar alarm was armed by looking through the curtains. One of the deputies walked around the house and found a broken window in the bathroom. He climbed in, disabled the alarm after getting the code from the lady, and opened the front door.
They asked her if she had taken any drugs and she told them she had been taking Chantix for a few days and it made her feel strange. She remembered waking up and feeling paranoid after a nightmare. For some reason, she decided that she needed to get out of the house after feeling panicky and broke the bathroom window. She crawled out and started walking to get away from an unknown threat.
She had no history of mental problems and had taken the Chantix to stop smoking. Go figure...
They were able to find out where she lived and took her to her home. The doors were locked and they could see that the burglar alarm was armed by looking through the curtains. One of the deputies walked around the house and found a broken window in the bathroom. He climbed in, disabled the alarm after getting the code from the lady, and opened the front door.
They asked her if she had taken any drugs and she told them she had been taking Chantix for a few days and it made her feel strange. She remembered waking up and feeling paranoid after a nightmare. For some reason, she decided that she needed to get out of the house after feeling panicky and broke the bathroom window. She crawled out and started walking to get away from an unknown threat.
She had no history of mental problems and had taken the Chantix to stop smoking. Go figure...
Pharma doesn't give a rats but about you or your family. They are in it for one thing only, money. Sure the doc's who start out want to design a drug that saves the world but like any corporation the bottom line comes first. If you don't produce your going to find your career in the toilet. So they just come up with a drug. Market the hell out of it and side effects be damned. Take a look at who is the head of the FDA and you'll quickly find that they are in bed with pharma big time.
I'm not saying that there haven't been good drugs made in the past and will be in the future.
What bugs me is as a populace we (Canada and USA and every where else) just sit back and take it. We've been so programmed to just accept that this is the way it's done. That they know better then we do. I'm not saying I know chemistry, but if I was the head of HC or the FDA I would make darn sure I had people that did.
Sorry rant off now. There are a few topics (this being one of them) that just get to me.
I'm not saying that there haven't been good drugs made in the past and will be in the future.
What bugs me is as a populace we (Canada and USA and every where else) just sit back and take it. We've been so programmed to just accept that this is the way it's done. That they know better then we do. I'm not saying I know chemistry, but if I was the head of HC or the FDA I would make darn sure I had people that did.
Sorry rant off now. There are a few topics (this being one of them) that just get to me.
Ridiculous. Never used this one, but did try Wellbutrin several years ago for smoking cessation - forget what it was marketed under. It worked to stop smoking (for awhile), but it gave me MASSIVE panic attacks because, apparently, it didn't play well with caffeine in some people. This wasn't even listed as a possible side effect.
Champix stimulates and alters the chemical composition of the brain.
Vaping stimulates the taste buds.
I have the same sentiments. What's the crock? Seems pretty standard. This BP and HC lovefest rhetoric is overrated and getting old. It's a nice conversational topic, though. ;-)
Champix worked for many and I was one of them. I did not have any side effects and I was such a hard core smoker that I had to have 3 rounds of Champix to get me off smoking and it did save my life. I guess I was one of the lucky ones who did not have effects. It kept me off smokes and killed my nasty habit, dead in it's tracks.
I tried many things to quit smoking, patch, gum, cold turkey (about 50 times) and Zyban and nothing worked except Champix. The patch and Zyban gave me many side effects.
I started vaping, 4 years after quitting smoking, because I just missed the whole thing about smoking, but I did not miss cigarettes. Vaping was my answer.
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Would you mind pointing me to the article about this as my husband is taking 81mg aspirin, daily, and I would like to know more about this study and discuss it with our family doctor.
I tried many things to quit smoking, patch, gum, cold turkey (about 50 times) and Zyban and nothing worked except Champix. The patch and Zyban gave me many side effects.
I started vaping, 4 years after quitting smoking, because I just missed the whole thing about smoking, but I did not miss cigarettes. Vaping was my answer.
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Would you mind pointing me to the article about this as my husband is taking 81mg aspirin, daily, and I would like to know more about this study and discuss it with our family doctor.
Next time you go into a pharmacy,locate the big book,its the bible of meds.
It should be available for all to read.
In it,you can check the side effects and everything about any prescription drugs you get
Most are scary.
It should be available for all to read.
In it,you can check the side effects and everything about any prescription drugs you get
Most are scary.
It's approved because studies have shown that the most effective* treatment is the one the pharma companies paid the most to have approved.
* According to a 2006 study performed by the National Research Association and Coffee House of two participants, both of whom were neighbors, but they had never met before, so it's okay.
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You've said a mouthful here ;-) .... I never understood the philosophy behind the invention of any type of drug that is supposed to help an individual with a particular ailment, addiction, etc, that at the same time poses even further health risks or side effects to the individual for whom said drug is prescribed.... This is not Medicine, or Health Care, but rather a mockery of everything that "Health care" is supposed to be ... nothing more than legalized drug dealing.
Our Governments and Health Care systems are only opposed to those drugs that they themselves do not control and cannot profit from. We as people need to get through our heads that our governments do not care about us, our health, or our safety, they care about Power and Profits and will forever stand in opposition to any thing and any one who poses a threat to that...... including a Cure for Cancer, Cardiovascular Disease, etc, because there is no Profit in a cure ...... the Profit is in the comeback ....
And every good Drug dealer knows this ;-)
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