In to 3rd day, controlling urge to smoke on weekend parties
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The Trinity alpha is... Uses Nord coils. I think that that is where they are pushing for the mini-cloudz pod crewWell, okay then.
Makes sense to me (not an engineer, nor interest in doing the math!), and I'll certainly take your word for it.
I guess what's really surprising to me is that smok doesn't market it as 30W then. Seems that'd attract more of their base. But they seem to be doing okay.
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I'm confused, @buccaneersfan. All you've vaped so far is a Nord, right? So your preference for big clouds is theoretical; you haven't actually used a setup that produces them? I would try one out before leaping to buy anything like that for yourself. At the moment, you're replacing smoking and probably will be best satisfied by something that approximates that experience.
That seems like a very logical approach, but not necessarily one with success. My first foray into vaping was with a cigalike – didn’t work. Years later I tried a redistricted DTL setup which technically can be vaped as MTL, which is how I used it given I was so use to that action from decades of smoking. It had potential but I didn’t feel it was enough to replace smoking totally. Tried a full fledged DTL setup and bingo…I found my solution.
Personally I think the challenge is not necessarily to attempt at mimicking smoking, although I am fully open that will work for some - but to find a way that gives enough or greater satisfaction. Chucking clouds is not a cure for smoking, but the action along with the proper nicotine intake could be just enough satisfaction that an individual needs to curb his/her smoking habit. This is just a simple example.
What is key is to keep an open mind to the options available. And accept there maybe a bit of trial and error involved, which unfortunately will come at a cost. But the goal isn’t a short term savings, it’s long term health and if your not bitten by the Shinyitis bug, savings will eventually add up.
Personally I think the challenge is not necessarily to attempt at mimicking smoking, although I am fully open that will work for some - but to find a way that gives enough or greater satisfaction. Chucking clouds is not a cure for smoking, but the action along with the proper nicotine intake could be just enough satisfaction that an individual needs to curb his/her smoking habit. This is just a simple example.
What is key is to keep an open mind to the options available. And accept there maybe a bit of trial and error involved, which unfortunately will come at a cost. But the goal isn’t a short term savings, it’s long term health and if your not bitten by the Shinyitis bug, savings will eventually add up.
I used few vape machines before unsuccessfully, used it for a few days and went back to regular cigarettes. So I want to buy good equipment asap
Do you inhale vapor the way you smoked (i.e., into your mouth and then into your lungs, AKA MTL)? Or do you suck the vapor directly into your lungs, the way one smokes a joint (sorry, moderators)?
What setups other than the Nord have you tried? As @Punk In Drublic, maybe you do need lots of power and vapor to keep you off cigarettes. My point was simply that if you've only used lower-power devices thus far, how do you know? Do you have any way of trying out different kinds of gear to see what appeals to you?
And you're quite right, @Punk In Drublic. I was thinking too mechanically. Could be that tons of vapor are exactly what the OP needs. I just don't understand how he can know for sure, and it seems nuts to me to shell out for a setup that can produce them--plus a backup for security's sake--without a decent notion that it's what will hit the spot.
There should be a vaping lending library.
There should be a vaping lending library.
Ha! My chart ends at 12W. Can you tell the difference between 3mg and zero at 10W? I didn't include it in the legend, but the white part is for one-of-a-kind outliers
Zero nic is definitely devoid of nic bite and yes, I can tell. 3mg is enough for your brain to accept the fact that there's nic in the vape (once you work your way down in increments). I started vaping at 24mg and stayed there for a year or more. Over a period of months I stepped down to 6mg, stayed there a while, and then started working my way down to 3mg. I tried 0 nic for a short while and it was boring, so I went back to 3mg.
At no time was I tempted to smoke a cigarette. I'm one of the lucky ones that threw away a 2PAD Marlboro habit and never smoked another one. Vaping works.
You’re correct, there will be a gamble when approaching a different setup blindly. It’s an unfortunate reality. But as mentioned, we should try and keep an open mind and try not to think of any finances lost (or potentially lost), but to view it as an attempt to stepping a little closer to that light at the end of the tunnel. Sometimes those steps come at a cost.
Perhaps just purchase 1 DTL device, see how it works out and go from there. @buccaneersfan – do you have any shops local to you? Perhaps a visit and discuss with the employees – they may have samples for you to try, may not.
As I mentioned above, my first attempt at quitting smoking via vaping was with cigalikes. The mistake I made was viewing all vaping as giving the same sensation as a cigalike. I did not bother investigating other options and came to a biased conclusion. I regret that for had I have been aware other options could potentially give different results, I would have been open to investing into those options even if it meant a little trial and error. A few extra $$$ spent back then experimenting could have saved me thousands from the additional 2/3 years of smoking. $17 CAN per pack at 1 to 2 packs a day!
I was about to quit vaping then heard about sub ohm and the STM. That's the only reason I'm still vaping today.
STM? I tried cigalikes in 09. Went up to 5v on a 901 atty at 2.2 ohm. Went to a vape shop in January, heard sub ohm pod... Protonated nic, sampled a jgormet juice, and haven't looked back. Now I love my hell vape RDAs... Dead rabbit sq is great for restricted single coil on a single cell mod... And the drop dead is a great cloud chucker. Both are ridiculously easy to work on. Don't know bout that tank, but if it's anything like what I have, should be easy enough.
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Go to the party with your vape mod in your pocket and leave the smokes in the car. If you get an urge then hit the vape like you mean it. If the vape fails to satisfy your nic fit, go to the car, smoke one, and walk back (leave them in the car).
We are all addicted not only to the nicotine part of smoking, but also the hand to mouth habit. The spark lights up in our brain and tells us we need to smoke (or vape) again because the nic level is dropping. So, we respond by hitting it like a lab rat over and over.
For me, the key to giving up cigarettes was high nic 24mg juice and a cig-a-like. That satisfied the hand to mouth habit and the nicotine addiction. I got so tied up on my new Joye 510 cig-a-like the first few weeks that I began to forget to smoke. I had my new toy to play with.
Everyone's different, but the principle is the same. To get off the smokes you need the nicotine hit and something that resembles smoking. When the urge hits recognize it as a need for nicotine, grab the vape mod and hit it like it counts, because it does. Your natural urge is to slap your pocket and reach for a cigarette. Resist it and grab the high nicotine vape and hit it until the urge is satisfied.
If that doesn't work for you then upping the nicotine level is the next step. Some go as high as 48mg nic, but that's not the norm. Most people are good at 18mg to 24mg.
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I am also MTL vape. I used some devices before but remember those names but I did not like those devices much either burning my lip or causing me throat pain and cough
Sorry but what is dtl device. There are some shops here but I dont like visiting them, they are business oriented rather than helping people when I visited them in past. Sold me a mod and pen. Mod died in few days of use, pen also no good
Direct To Lung. That is what you’ll be looking for if you want big clouds.
It's the coughing that makes me wonder whether big clouds are what you really need/want, @buccaneersfan. Maybe a definition of "big clouds" is in order. I know that vaping at 12-14W on coils between .5 and 1.2 ohms yields far more "smoke" than smoking ever did. I find it annoying, actually: I never had to wave my hand in front of my face so that I could see everything on my television when I smoked; I do now on occasion.
What VG/PG ratio is in your juice? VG will give you thicker/more vapor. PG can hurt your throat/make you cough (VG can make you cough, too, but it's to clear your throat, not because of irritation).
What VG/PG ratio is in your juice? VG will give you thicker/more vapor. PG can hurt your throat/make you cough (VG can make you cough, too, but it's to clear your throat, not because of irritation).
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