Indoor vaping in public spaces - not a battle worth fighting
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This is a great thread. Not sure where I stand on whether or not this aspect of the battle is worth fighting. I agree with showing respect. To me it doesn't matter that I personally don't believe it harms anyone else. If it bothers them, I'll go elsewhere. Yes, I've snuck a drag at the grocery store on a rough day, or in a bathroom at a doctors office. And while it would be nice to vape anywhere, I'm thrilled I can do it in my house and my car without worrying about my children's health. As a parent of three elementary aged kids, I do not vape around their friends unless I already know said kids parents are cool with it. And I do worry about my kids picking up this habit when they're older, but better this then analogs. I will do my part to keep them from starting and I expect other adults to do the same. As far as outside, I see no reason why not to. But again, if it bothers someone, or I get an odd look, I give them space. My respectful way of vaping has changed many of my neighbors minds about it. Once they smell the difference they usually ask questions, and I've yet to have any request me to not vape around them or their kids. There are times and places where each way has its benefits and issues.
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This whole thing would be a lot simpler if employers and public policy makers recognized that vaping isn't smoking, and is an excellent harm reduction option - as well as cessation method.
At that point, vaping areas would be permitted indoors in minimally-ventilated areas, and perhaps more smokers would vape (at least when they had the choice between vaping indoors and smoking outdoors). Actually I believe they already do that at Heathrow.
This would unquestionably increase productivity and benefit public health.
But no-o ... "Smokers need to quit and we need to help them quit" says the ACS (or is it ALA) spokesperson. Yeah, right. Thanks.
At that point, vaping areas would be permitted indoors in minimally-ventilated areas, and perhaps more smokers would vape (at least when they had the choice between vaping indoors and smoking outdoors). Actually I believe they already do that at Heathrow.
This would unquestionably increase productivity and benefit public health.
But no-o ... "Smokers need to quit and we need to help them quit" says the ACS (or is it ALA) spokesperson. Yeah, right. Thanks.
Its not....
" That the Wind is Blowing"..
Its...
"Whats... Blowing in the Wind!!!!!"
Example:
I know Im Vaping Bobas Bounty at Low nicotine levels ....
but...
What is the Dude sitting next to me Vaping?
Is it Crack? or Flintsone Vitamins?
Seriously...Who the Fug knows what kinda juice he has in his Provari?
" That the Wind is Blowing"..
Its...
"Whats... Blowing in the Wind!!!!!"
Example:
I know Im Vaping Bobas Bounty at Low nicotine levels ....
but...
What is the Dude sitting next to me Vaping?
Is it Crack? or Flintsone Vitamins?
Seriously...Who the Fug knows what kinda juice he has in his Provari?
Agreed...
The last thing we need to be doing is upsetting otherwise silent individuals, into advocating against vaping.
The last thing we need to be doing is upsetting otherwise silent individuals, into advocating against vaping.
I think it is a battle worth fighting.
In England the BMA (British medical association) have just voted to say that they think that vaping (e-cigs) should be banned in public places in the same way as tobacco smoking is. This means that if whilst in a pub you wanted a nicotine hit you would by law be obliged to stand in a crowd of smokers, and get all the stink and second hand carcinogens associated! Screw that; I think it's worth the fight.
In England the BMA (British medical association) have just voted to say that they think that vaping (e-cigs) should be banned in public places in the same way as tobacco smoking is. This means that if whilst in a pub you wanted a nicotine hit you would by law be obliged to stand in a crowd of smokers, and get all the stink and second hand carcinogens associated! Screw that; I think it's worth the fight.
From: BBC News - E-cigarettes face new restrictions :
[Dated 12 June of last year. How things have changed.)
What the BMA say now is:
"At the BMA's annual meeting, our members agreed that e-cigarettes should be included in the ban on smoking in public places."
Taken from here:
BMA - E-cigarettes
But like I said above: In the UK there are little boxes (sheds) outside of pubs, and smokers MUST use them; you must be inside the box and not just outside the pub (bar) or hiding in the car park. So if you've made the decision to cut the fags, and the BMA have there way here, you won't have the right to save your health, you will have to be in the smoking box and forfeit your health benefits!!!
I'm finding it hard to believe that anyone is buying into the gateway nonsense, and I'm sure that must be the reason for this type of thing. In the rare case that someone becomes addicted to nicotine through e-cig use, who in their right mind could think that they would move onto analogues and therefore spend 10 times as much money, smell bad, and shorten their lives? Who is it that buys into this crap!?
"At the BMA's annual meeting, our members agreed that e-cigarettes should be included in the ban on smoking in public places."
Taken from here:
BMA - E-cigarettes
But like I said above: In the UK there are little boxes (sheds) outside of pubs, and smokers MUST use them; you must be inside the box and not just outside the pub (bar) or hiding in the car park. So if you've made the decision to cut the fags, and the BMA have there way here, you won't have the right to save your health, you will have to be in the smoking box and forfeit your health benefits!!!
I'm finding it hard to believe that anyone is buying into the gateway nonsense, and I'm sure that must be the reason for this type of thing. In the rare case that someone becomes addicted to nicotine through e-cig use, who in their right mind could think that they would move onto analogues and therefore spend 10 times as much money, smell bad, and shorten their lives? Who is it that buys into this crap!?
My fear is that the larger tobacco companies will move in to occupy the space now held by the multitude of vape shops we all know and love, and edge out the (superior, more varied in flavor and product) little guys simply due to the wider public having VERY little knowledge of the vaping scene.
Come to the states ... that's exactly what our "authorities" think, and what our media (mostly) dutifully publishes.
Sainsbury's, Tesco, Morrison's, and Asda are already into it. They made great inroads into the organic market some years back. One underestimates these firms at one's peril: Supermarket secrets part 1 - YouTube
My sentiments exactly
To the OP ,it sounds like you give up fighting for you rights way to Easily
As far as vaping OR smoking in my car, house, or outside anywhere , I will bite my tongue and just say , I will do what I please
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I'll vape where I feel comfortable vaping, but IMO this whole tech is far too precious to risk alienating people; that's why I never vape in enclosed, crowded places, especially where there are children. Way I see it, e-cigs are what they call "transformational technology", with the potential to completely destroy the tobacco industry over a long enough time-frame. Vaping hardware can only improve and grow ever more realistic and satisfying, while tobacco companies only offer the same thing they've offered for X amount of years: tobacco, with all it's toxic contents. In short, I think big tobacco must be terrified of these things, and desperately looking for a way to crush the e-cig business.
I'd rather not risk this wonderful and exciting new thing being thought of as a "nuisance", inviting harsh regulations, so I'm only too happy to be very mindful of where I vape.
I'd rather not risk this wonderful and exciting new thing being thought of as a "nuisance", inviting harsh regulations, so I'm only too happy to be very mindful of where I vape.
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