This can all be so simple. If smoking is allowed somewhere, so should be vaping. I know they aren't the same but the gen public has trouble making that distinction (a fact which is well known). Just because we quit smoking and now use an electronic device that vaporizes or nic doesn't give us free reign over public places or excuse us from consideration of others. I can't wrap my head around how this truth escapes so many.
"What I've noticed is that a lot of newbie vapers (along w/ plenty of experienced ones) seem to think that we should have the right to vape indoors in public spaces. Many still do, where it's legal."
These are precisely the kind of people that are doing harm to the vaping community whether they realize it or not. Someone posted a thread the other day asking if they should be able to vape on a plane. There was an alarming amount of response from people submitting that vaping should be allowed on a plane. Sigh.
There seems to be this 'we need to educate society about vaping' sentiment while what we need is to educate the vaping community about society.
I don't see any experienced vapers saying anything about having free reign, or vaping without respect of others. Certainly there are those that promote unlimited, unfettered access in public, but they are few and far between, from what I've seen, and don't represent the majority. The experienced vapers that I know understand and integrate into society just fine, without advice from the ANTZ, allowing good judgment, common sense, respect of others, and common courtesy to guide them. Give it a try. It works.
Everyone is responsible for themselves. That responsibility ends there, and does not extend to my vaping, where my responsibility begins. Respecting others means accepting that people have different view points, and accepting them as their opinion, one they are entitled to. Telling others what to do, is not a part of my reference point, and I don't understand why so many misguided folks keep trying to tell me and others what to do. If I were hurting myself or others, I would feel differently, but, thus far, all the evidence seems to point toward a relative harmlessness to me and others. I say stow it. I won't vape in your bar, when you say that you don't want me to vape in your bar. It's their choice, not mine. If they don't have a problem with it, I don't have a problem with it, again, respect being a guiding principle always.