IPV 3(?) the new 100 watt box mod prototype

[Steamer861]

In the SX350 thread they mention that Yihi them selves said the SX330 in the IPV2 is NOT USB upgradeable. How ever this mite change for the IPV3 I don't know

I know many of us are just now enjoying the new IPV2 50 watt box mod by pioneer4you. It is a small and compact powerhouse with a nice touch fire innovation (which can be disabled). There are plenty of threads on that unit so I wont go into those details.... BUT I do want to share with you some of the latest I have learned about pioneer4you's new 100 watt version called the IPV3 coming real soon.

Here are two videos to check out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHO9YbvaaSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDbxS3VLloM

Here is what we think we know right now:
The dimensions, screen, buttons, fire button, and weight are all the same as the iPV2.
The box is the same aluminum box with a USB port (for charging and supposedly to do firmware upgrades to 150 watts later this year) as the ipv2.
The iPV3 apparently uses a new version of YiHI's sx330 version 3 chipset. See LINK. Notice that the low Ohm level is .15. SPECS for YiHiEcigar SX330 V3 100W
It currently has ONE 18650 battery (although i think they could get two in that box with the space that is free under some of the inside plastic).
The unit will come in several different colors. (Right now the ipv2 has shipped the charcoal "black" and the light grey. Blue is supposedly heading out the door to ship.

Here is what we are speculating.
IF the iPV3 uses the YiHi sx330 v3 chip how does it have a USB port and how can it firmware upgrade as the YiHi specs say otherwise. (we know the sx350 will do this) Perhaps they have modified the sx330 version 2 somehow (as their are rumors that the ipV2 will also get a firmware update at some point.)
We are not sure of price but early reports say there will be a MSRP of $130-150.00 USD... of course vendors get them much cheaper in bulk.
The release date is tentatively set for ate August or early September (but they are still tweaking some design issues)

I HOPE THEY:
I hope they make a magnetic closure for the back panel to access the battery easily and not have to charge via usb (which is super slow). Early signs of the design seem to show 4 TINY screws however. Ugh! The 2 screws that are on the iPV2 are real testy at times and seem to strip easily.
I hope they make the ipv3 a dual 18650 (esp if you gonna roast that puppy at 100 watts!)

SIDE NOTE:
While I am at it I might as well share with you that there are some new "special edition/limited edition" versions of the 50 watt iPV2 coming out. Apparently P4Y contracted with a few vendors to put their company name on the sticker side and add a black carbon fiber "wrap" on the front and back. (It would be neat to have a .................. one, huh?) Here is a photo of the VaporRange version:
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I have an email in to a couple P4Y design/leaders to clarify a few things and I will try to keep everyone posted.

Thanks for reading this long winded update and sharing in the excitement.

 

[Budkiss]

i know. Wierd. I see the hole (and Sigelei has the same) but how in the world are they doing that IF they are using the sx330 version 3 chip?
Neither company has shown and INSIDE view of the box yet and there are no prototypes floating around YET so i guess we will have to wait and see.
Word is the sigelei will be 100-115 while the IPV3 will be 150-180.
Sigelei will be out by end of aug. IPV3 maybe end of sept

 

[herb]

You are exactly correct I don't go lower than .6 and 25 watts is plenty.
I wounded how many people build .2 or lower? Percentage wise it bet it is low, so the rest of the people who buy these 100 watt mods are doing it for the novelty?

Although very unlikely to admit it i think for a very large majority it is something other than a device that suits their vaping needs . Whether that be novelty , my mod is more powerful than your mod or look at me i have the latest and greatest. Logic and common sense have no place here .

With all the info posted by ECF itself about the dangers of vaping super high wattage and sum ohming i stay away from going too high . Imo and from testing i think vaping at levels much lower than these devices can produce provides a superior vape anyway .

The below is just one short posting that i have read and it's worth reading because if your going to get into high wattage you should know what your dealing with .

Several weeks ago, an article appeared in the New York Times and elsewhere, purportedly identifying a new vaping danger, significant formaldehyde levels that can be produced by vaping at unusually high temperatures. It appears that formaldehyde is produced in a wide variety of chemical reactions involving heat, and in cigarette smoking, it is one of the hundreds of dangerous substances involved. It is produced at trace levels in normal vaping as well, but the Times reported that when the vapor temperature becomes unusually high, the formaldehyde levels produced by vaping can approach those produced by smoking.

 

[Budkiss]

i SEE the hole I just cant figure out how they managed to do a USB with a chip that does not support it (sx330 v3).
My only guess is it is modified somehow. Cool. Curious.

A usb is cool too but charging takes way too long that way. The upside is IF there is a firmware update the USB is the only way to do so.

 

[suspectK]

Although very unlikely to admit it i think for a very large majority it is something other than a device that suits their vaping needs . Whether that be novelty , my mod is more powerful than your mod or look at me i have the latest and greatest. Logic and common sense have no place here .

With all the info posted by ECF itself about the dangers of vaping super high wattage and sum ohming i stay away from going too high . Imo and from testing i think vaping at levels much lower than these devices can produce provides a superior vape anyway .

The below is just one short posting that i have read and it's worth reading because if your going to get into high wattage you should know what your dealing with .

You're funny.. when we're all using the same formulas in our liquids, I'll believe..caring is a different story.

And there's another HUGE factor...the amount of airflow at these "unusually high" temperatures.

Are these levels of formaldehyde measured from a person exhaling them, airflow hitting a coil, or just a coil burning some liquid in a mason jar- that's sent around the world for evaluation ((assuming this post had any references/cites..etc-edit- what you quoted if that was confusing)sorry can't help involving satire on the last one)

 

[5150sick]

If it only has a single 18650 at 100watts it would be useless.
A single 18650 is bad enough with the IPV2.

 

[5150sick]

Although very unlikely to admit it i think for a very large majority it is something other than a device that suits their vaping needs . Whether that be novelty , my mod is more powerful than your mod or look at me i have the latest and greatest. Logic and common sense have no place here .

With all the info posted by ECF itself about the dangers of vaping super high wattage and sum ohming i stay away from going too high . Imo and from testing i think vaping at levels much lower than these devices can produce provides a superior vape anyway .

The below is just one short posting that i have read and it's worth reading because if your going to get into high wattage you should know what your dealing with .

They took an ego twist and turned it up to 4.8 volts with a CE4 on top and took a 10 SECOND DRAW!!!
Then recorded their desired results. Read the first sentence and tell me who could/would do that?
Not only would it taste like burnt turds it would also burn a hole in your mouth!!!

It's the 2009 study all over again.
Get the worst of the worst in hardware and use a machine to draw vapor out in a way in which would be impossible in the real world.
Publish said results, scare the general public who either do not know any better or do not care.

 

[suspectK]

^yeah, that's the problem...people read someone's "experiment," but the only reason it can be called an experiment is because it can be repeated..lol.

The fact that studying what is exhaled when vaping is extremely difficult to measure, and not see much difference in normal human breath, there needs to be some serious equipment involved for legit studies. I'm sure proper ones have been done..wonder why I haven't seen them.

Guess what compound that starts with a 'F' that is exhaled from cellular respiration?

 

[5150sick]

Scientists Find the Same Ecig

 

[Budkiss]

I JUST got a response from P4Y... the new 100 watt box (IPV3) WILL use two 18650's, will have the USB, and will have a firmware upgrade to 120w... maybe 150 watts by the end of the year (they didn't explain how they modified the sx330 v3 chip)

 

[yo_diego]

Can you ask about the back door?

 

[Budkiss]

I did... prototype has 4 screws. They are checking into magnetic closure

 

[herb]

You're funny.. when we're all using the same formulas in our liquids, I'll believe..caring is a different story.

And there's another HUGE factor...the amount of airflow at these "unusually high" temperatures.

Are these levels of formaldehyde measured from a person exhaling them, airflow hitting a coil, or just a coil burning some liquid in a mason jar- that's sent around the world for evaluation ((assuming this post had any references/cites..etc-edit- what you quoted if that was confusing)sorry can't help involving satire on the last one)

Hey Bud , don't shoot the messenger , i am not forcing anyone to believe the info about high wattage vaping , each individual needs to do their own homework but ECF appears to think there is a definite higher risk involved but at this time they can't back it up .

I'm sure more studies will come down the road but it is wise to give the uninformed something to think about . Obviously you appear to not care regardless of what is shown about this topic and thats your right but let others decide for themselves if it's something they are concerned with .(just a thought).



The below has got to be a joke , c,mon , thats just a no name e cig supported site trying to protect itself lol.

Scientists Find the Same Ecig

Like i said, all should make their own decisions but all should be aware of it :

This? The piece was written by our ECF forum administrator, Rolygate.

ECF Sub-Ohm Advisory

"2. Inhalation issues

It is likely that the super-heating of e-liquids that takes place in an RBA run at less than 1 ohm will create some toxic materials.

This is just plain logic and should not be seen as anything radically new: burning up refills creates some nasties and there is no way around that. It is likely that materials such as acrolein and aldehydes will be seen in measurable quantities, and some pyrolytic compounds may even be created.

Inhalation of sub-ohm vapor is probably not the same as regular vapor and therefore may have additional risk. It is likely to create conditions where potential carcinogens (cancer-causing agents) will be seen in measurable amounts, and so there must be some elevation of risk, which will escalate as resistance goes down and heat goes up.

We can regard this as significantly more important than battery safety at this time: there are no reported incidents of exploding APVs or house fires caused by sub-ohm rigs self-destructing; but there are probably thousands of people inhaling materials that are simply not present in vapor from a regular clearo run at 2.5 ohms.

Buttery flavors
We have to add a specific note on butter/creamy flavors here. Diacetyl or a similar substitute is present in some flavors, and it is likely that many of this flavor group have exactly the same issues as diacetyl, since they are all fairly similar molecules. Because of the sheer volume of liquid consumed and the volume of vapor created by sub-ohming, all issues related to refill liquid safety are magnified. Previously it was considered that consumption of 10ml of refill liquid per day was high; now there are rumors that some sub-ohmers may even consume 20ml a day.

Until more information is available, our advice is that all butter/cream type flavors are avoided for sub-ohm use (inhalation of the butter-popcorn-custard flavoring diacetyl can cause the irreversible degenerative lung disease bronchiolitis obliterans, aka 'popcorn lung').

This warning is not pure speculation:
A research study has already indicated that the vapor created by high-power vaping contains more potentially toxic compounds
Dr Farsalinos' recent study reports that a very high percentage of cream-type flavors contain diacetyl even when the vendor claims there is none present
He states that 7 out of 10 vendors who claim there is no diacetyl in their products are not correct."
Rickajho, Rocketpunk, Newportlocal and 2 others like this.

 

[Budkiss]

Herb, Im not sure if that post was for me or not. ? If so, thanks for the polite heads up and expression of concern. I receive it in love.

While on the subject... I am ok with folks making up their own mind on power issues.The opinions and stories abound about vaping hazards. We are all adults and can make our own decisions. God knows I have made many mistakes. SOME of them I learn from.

I got the IPV2 because it could go lover than (my vamo v5) at 1.2ohms and higher than 15w. Today i was at 1 ohm and 16w which is my sweet spot with Suicide Bunny's Mother's Milk. Just a preference thing. (I have tried 50 watts with my dripper though)

I confess... I am super curious about the IPV3 and 100 w boxes but not sure if I would ever vape that high (other than to try it).

 

[spartanstew]

(It would be neat to have a .................. one, huh?)

Why? So Joe could get a cut?

 

[herb]

Herb, Im not sure if that post was for me or not. ? If so, thanks for the polite heads up and expression of concern. I receive it in love.

While on the subject... I am ok with folks making up their own mind on power issues.The opinions and stories abound about vaping hazards. We are all adults and can make our own decisions. God knows I have made many mistakes. SOME of them I learn from.

I got the IPV2 because it could go lover than (my vamo v5) at 1.2ohms and higher than 15w. Today i was at 1 ohm and 16w which is my sweet spot with Suicide Bunny's Mother's Milk. Just a preference thing. (I have tried 50 watts with my dripper though)

I confess... I am super curious about the IPV3 and 100 w boxes but not sure if I would ever vape that high (other than to try it).

No it was certainly not directed at you , it was in direct response to the above posters who asked about sources and that this stuff is not trustworthy (which right now they appear to be correct ) but mods in this power range are no joke and the more people aware of potential concerns (potential is the key word here) the better .

 

[Budkiss]

thanks, I was concerned i ruffled your feathers. Never my intent.

I just report what i learn and let folks decide. I did quite a bit of background on the 50 watt iPV (and now the 100 w).
I think it is fun to keep up with the growing tech. My wallet, on the other hand, cannot keep up.

 

[Budkiss]

Just posted an interview i did with Pioneer4you about the new iPV3 100 watt box mod
In it he comments about the elev8 issue and the iPV2
Check it out:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/590516-breaking-news-ipv3-100-watt-box-mod-interview-pioneer4you.html

 

[Juvecoop]

I just got my IPV2 Yesterday. 50 watts Is way more than I will ever need. I will not be buying the 100 watt mod. I just can't see why any one would need all them watts.
I turned my IPV2 up to 40 watts and it was all ready WAY too Much I think it just a novelty now really who needs 100 watts??

Where did you order the ipv2 from? Are there any companies that sell it in Canada? I live in Toronto.

 

[AaronY]

Just posted an interview i did with Pioneer4you about the new iPV3 100 watt box mod
In it he comments about the elev8 issue and the iPV2
Check it out:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/590516-breaking-news-ipv3-100-watt-box-mod-interview-pioneer4you.html

Great job. Interesting info. Send me a pm if you can. Want permission to post part of the interview at my ecig blog. I really look forward to seeing the ipv3.