IPV 35w and 50w box mods

[TheKiwi]

From a technical standpoint:

vaping is a burst/pulse function. Pulse ratings are fine to vape with, as long as you know what you're doing, and you don't discharge at those current levels for longer than 60seconds- which is what a burst usually is rated at(above continuous(20-lg or 3-0vtc&25r))

And specifically:

Mechanical- the vtc3-5 have 30Amp continuous, and the burst rating is supposedly 60 Amps, but I've read about people pushing over 100 Amps. I don't know if that's true or not..the vtc5s get much warmer than all the others, so I stay around the continuous rating.

Ah.

Someone posted on ECF a scanned tech spec sheet of the vtc5. Most of it was Japanese, but there was a table for the various amp discharge.

For different pulse duration, the discharge rate sky rockets. Gonna see if I can find that for you guys.

ETA: here you go

 

[abrb701]

Oh my gosh. I'm so glad the thread stopped being a skirmish about suppliers and all that. That got a little outta hand.

Might be better if we stick to a more product spec/performance/usage/issues thread?

Just IMO

Does that mean my questions can stay here, or should I still start another one tomorrow? Because I have plenty of questions about how to best utilize the power this device can put out. WOW by the way, very powerful, at least to me, I've never gone over 15 watts regulated or below .6 on mechanicals(too lazy to look up the calculator).

The hits are just so hot to inhale, its better if I don't put the airholes right in front of the coils, but then it doesn't hit very well at all. Thoughts anyone? I thought I remembered a really long gooseneck style drip tip, that would give it more cool down time right?

Ya its definitely 3200mah, it says 30A on the battery but some sites are saying its 32A. I'm going to believe my battery for now.

 

[vaperXant]

Oh my gosh. I'm so glad the thread stopped being a skirmish about suppliers and all that. That got a little outta hand.

Might be better if we stick to a more product spec/performance/usage/issues thread?

Just IMO

From a technical standpoint:

Vaping is a burst/pulse function. Pulse ratings are fine to vape with, as long as you know what you're doing, and you don't discharge at those current levels for longer than 60seconds- which is what a burst usually is rated at(above continuous(20-lg or 3-0vtc&25r))

And specifically:

Mechanical- the vtc3-5 have 30Amp continuous, and the burst rating is supposedly 60 Amps, but I've read about people pushing over 100 Amps. I don't know if that's true or not..the vtc5s get much warmer than all the others, so I stay around the continuous rating.

Sum it up- the vtc's and 25r is the best cells to go above 30amps with.

Regulated- You're not going to exceed 20-30 Amps with an IPV.. You won't notice performance differences with either..



3200 mAh ICR? I thought the Samsung 25r was 2500mAh?

I'm about to purchase a Samsung 25r.. after I look up the Samsung 3200.. I have a new vtc5, vtc4, and mnke 22 Amp. I'm about to pop the vtc4 in.. $50 says I get less sagging than a vtc5.

-I LOVE the real time voltage detector.

I know, right? When it first started.. with the elev8vape bs, I tried to derail it with a post.

"I'm loving my touch sensor on my ipv2 I PREordered on July, 2 from elev8vape, and received on July, 28. *image*"

Lol

I'm going to start a new thread with a worthy OP for this mod...if someone doesn't do it this week.<<<lazy.

This thread started great..but between all the people that don't know what a preorder is, economics and china distribution 101, and arguments about who has the better theory on everything...ughhh

New thread related to everything but vendor rumors, preorders and other bs
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...uct-spec-performance-usage-issues-thread.html

 

[TheKiwi]

Does that mean my questions can stay here, or should I still start another one tomorrow? Because I have plenty of questions about how to best utilize the power this device can put out. WOW by the way, very powerful, at least to me, I've never gone over 15 watts regulated or below .6 on mechanicals(too lazy to look up the calculator).

The hits are just so hot to inhale, its better if I don't put the airholes right in front of the coils, but then it doesn't hit very well at all. Thoughts anyone? I thought I remembered a really long gooseneck style drip tip, that would give it more cool down time right?

That's fine. I mean it pertains to the use for the mod. Then again I'm not trying to dictate what goes on here. The little stabs at fellow forumers just got a little too much is all.

In any case, if you find a vape to be too hot, why are you pushing up the wattage? Seems like you've already found your sweet spot. Remember contrary to the general feeling around, there isn't a NEED to go up the wattage if you don't feel a need to.

That said, some things to consider to help lower the temperature of your vape

1) if you find that your lips are getting scorched, use a glass or delrin drip tip. HUGE difference. Fasttech has a lot for cheap

2) funny you mentioned airflow to coil. Having the coil in front of the airhole should almost definitely help cool the vape down.

3) open up the airhole. Realize that all those super sub ohmers would never be able to do it without scorching their lungs if they don't have huge airholes. Bigger airhole = more air to cool the vapor down

4) use lower gauge wires. This one can prove by yourself. Wrap a 1.8 ohm coil with a 28ga vs a 32ga wire and vape at the same wattage. The 28 ga will 100% be a cooler vape. Given the same amount of power, there is a lot more mass of wire to heat up on a 28 than 32. Which is also why the 28 will also heat up noticeably slower.

5) use a bigger chambered atty

 

[suspectK]

Does that mean my questions can stay here, or should I still start another one tomorrow? Because I have plenty of questions about how to best utilize the power this device can put out. WOW by the way, very powerful, at least to me, I've never gone over 15 watts regulated or below .6 on mechanicals(too lazy to look up the calculator).

The hits are just so hot to inhale, its better if I don't put the airholes right in front of the coils, but then it doesn't hit very well at all. Thoughts anyone? I thought I remembered a really long gooseneck style drip tip, that would give it more cool down time right?

Ya its definitely 3200mah, it says 30A on the battery but some sites are saying its 32A. I'm going to believe my battery for now.

No, no, no... this is on topic, in our little commune we've developed as IPV owners/potential owners..

He was talking about the 5,000,000 posts about vendor and economic bs...not even about vaping.

We'll get this figured out for you.

I'll check out the battery... and come back.

If it's not your wicking, it's your airflow...slight possibility of flavor...but if you like the vapor, except the heat.. longer drip tip or chamber will solve that.

This is a tobh I turned into a slot..all my drippers are wide open...not hot at all with enough air.

What atty are you using?

PM me for a drip tip.

 

[suspectK]

Ya I ended up both the dual coil 26 gauge 1.1 with a larger diameter, with the wicks fed through and very long. I am liking it at 37 watts, any higher and its just too hot.

Any thoughts on the Samsung 3200 30A ICR in the IPV2? I've read that ICRs can't go in the IPV2, Ive been rotating 1600 20A AW IMRs until I get a solid answer, I find it odd that people online say ICRs cant go in regulated mods, my B&M guy said the exact opposite.

I'll start a thread in the RBA section tomorrow, tonight its time for a little relaxation in town( I live in a cabin on a lake thats out of the way) have a good night everyone. My apologies for the short thread hijack.

I can't find anything other than this...32A is in the title/battery label/description, but is it this:
http://www.my-ecigshop.com/samsung-icr18650-32a-3200mah.html
?
This battery has a 2C rating..to find the continuous rating you multiply it by the capacity/mAh/Ah.. you need it in Amps, so you divide 3200 by 1,000- 3.2Ah.

3.2 Amps × 2 = 6.4 Amp continuous...around 10 Amps is a good guess for a 30-60 second pulse.

Please clarify... I know there is short circuit protection with IPV, but I haven't overheated mine yet... that battery will be hot, if you're pushing 20Amps out of it...if plausible.

 

[Deluxefilly49]

Finally got to mine today and oh my god am I loving it!

 

[Budkiss]

I JUST got a response from P4Y... the new 100 watt box (iPV3) WILL use two 18650's, will have the USB, and will have a firmware upgrade to 120w... maybe 150 watts by the end of the year (they didn't explain how they modified the sx330 v3 chip)

 

[pmar4015]

My apologies in advance. I am sure this question has been asked to ad nauseam; however, I am unable to find the answer. My question is, is the SX330V1 upgradeable to 50 watts, 100 watts, etc. (see link below). Furthermore, is the only difference between the three versions the software update with the chip itself - from a hardware perspective - remaining unaltered? Thank you do much!!

http://venerablevaping.3dcartstores.com/iPV-35watt-Box-Mod-v1-by-Pioneer4u_p_498.html

 

[abrb701]

That's fine. I mean it pertains to the use for the mod. Then again I'm not trying to dictate what goes on here. The little stabs at fellow forumers just got a little too much is all.

In any case, if you find a vape to be too hot, why are you pushing up the wattage? Seems like you've already found your sweet spot. Remember contrary to the general feeling around, there isn't a NEED to go up the wattage if you don't feel a need to.

That said, some things to consider to help lower the temperature of your vape

1) if you find that your lips are getting scorched, use a glass or delrin drip tip. HUGE difference. Fasttech has a lot for cheap

2) funny you mentioned airflow to coil. Having the coil in front of the airhole should almost definitely help cool the vape down.

3) open up the airhole. Realize that all those super sub ohmers would never be able to do it without scorching their lungs if they don't have huge airholes. Bigger airhole = more air to cool the vapor down

4) use lower gauge wires. This one can prove by yourself. Wrap a 1.8 ohm coil with a 28ga vs a 32ga wire and vape at the same wattage. The 28 ga will 100% be a cooler vape. Given the same amount of power, there is a lot more mass of wire to heat up on a 28 than 32. Which is also why the 28 will also heat up noticeably slower.

5) use a bigger chambered atty

I definitely get what you mean about not pushing wattage, I settled on 23 until I drill the airholes out more, its still a satisfying vape. I'm using 2, a trident and an Igo L. The igo is drilled out, the trident isn't. Its not even so much my lips(although after a 5 minute session I can't even touch the drip tips). Currently I have a 28 gauge dual coil 1.2 in the trident, and a 26 gauge 1.5 in the Igo. I'm going to drill the airholes out more after breakfast. I'll check out a glass drip tip, they are 25 dollars at my B&M so I'll look around.

 

[abrb701]

No, no, no... this is on topic, in our little commune we've developed as IPV owners/potential owners..

He was talking about the 5,000,000 posts about vendor and economic bs...not even about vaping.

We'll get this figured out for you.

I'll check out the battery... and come back.

If it's not your wicking, it's your airflow...slight possibility of flavor...but if you like the vapor, except the heat.. longer drip tip or chamber will solve that.

This is a tobh I turned into a slot..all my drippers are wide open...not hot at all with enough air.

What atty are you using?

PM me for a drip tip.

I'm going to drill them out soon, that's a pretty logical place to start, that I wouldn't have though of myself haha. That picture is probably about 40-50 percent more than I have on my IGO.
I'm using a Trident V2 and an IGO L, I'm preferring the IGO at the moment, single coil 1.5 with 26 gauge at 23, or the dual coil at 27. I'll post pics in a bit. Thanks for the help, how do you quote two posts in one reply? I don't want to double post but every time I tried to quote from someone else it erased my reply and opened up one under their post. Is everyone just doing the HTML?

 

[suspectK]

^Tapatalk/phone app.

 

[abrb701]

^Tapatalk/phone app.

Ah I see, I'll download it. So I built a bigger diameter coil around one of my hobby screwdrivers for the IGO, 1.5 with 26 gauge, its definitely the biggest I've ever built but its MUCH cooler, and can go up to 36 watts without burning the cotton and the vape is still cool. Thanks for the recommendations, the bigger diameter definitely helped.

 

[herb]

Suspect K ,

I think it's a wise move to start another thread discussing battery issues and builds , even favorite RDA's since that always comes up as well .

While YOU and some others may not be interested in the vendor talk and availability issues it was very clear that nearly every question posted the last few days was specifically related to vendor issues and availability so that was the appropriate topic to talk about.

Yeah it got heated and that was stupid but i bet people still want to know where their mod is if they have not received it yet so if anybody out there still has questions please feel free to post your comments about it .

This is certainly not a battery, iPV settings and build only discussion . This forum is for ALL questions in relation to the iPV including problems with availability.

 

[TheKiwi]

^ Welp. That's been done! so for the folks who are still concerned about stuff shipping related, they can stick to this thread. I'm sure someone else would be able to help along.


For those who are more interested in usages, issues or stuff like that, there's another thread created by vaperxant.

There ya go! Everyone is happy.

 

[herb]

^ Welp. That's been done! so for the folks who are still concerned about stuff shipping related, they can stick to this thread. I'm sure someone else would be able to help along.


For those who are more interested in usages, issues or stuff like that, there's another thread created by vaperxant.

There ya go! Everyone is happy.

Yes, thats great , well done.

 

[abrb701]

Suspect K ,

I think it's a wise move to start another thread discussing battery issues and builds , even favorite RDA's since that always comes up as well .

While YOU and some others may not be interested in the vendor talk and availability issues it was very clear that nearly every question posted the last few days was specifically related to vendor issues and availability so that was the appropriate topic to talk about.

Yeah it got heated and that was stupid but i bet people still want to know where their mod is if they have not received it yet so if anybody out there still has questions please feel free to post your comments about it .

This is certainly not a battery, iPV settings and build only discussion . This forum is for ALL questions in relation to the iPV including problems with availability.

OK, I'll move over to the other one. Thanks for the help everyone.

 

[herb]

OK, I'll move over to the other one. Thanks for the help everyone.

Thats not what my post meant lol, it was meant to tell anyone with questions on anything related to the iPV's that they are free to post any and all questions related to it , not just iPV settings, battery info and builds .

Where is my mod (i don't know) and vendor issues are all relevant. Comments like "this thread was good until" are ridiculous , good up until ? for you but not the others asking questions some happen to not be interested in.

If a question is asked it should be answered to the best of anyones ability , obviously that question is important to somebody so it's important, period . The fact that someone else doesn't want to hear about it and wants to talk about something else isn't fair at all.

 

[Budkiss]

My apologies in advance. I am sure this question has been asked to ad nauseam; however, I am unable to find the answer. My question is, is the SX330V1 upgradeable to 50 watts, 100 watts, etc. (see link below). Furthermore, is the only difference between the three versions the software update with the chip itself - from a hardware perspective - remaining unaltered? Thank you do much!!

iPV 35watt Box Mod v1 by Pioneer4u

Go to YiHi's site and compare specs on version1,2,3 of sx330. Apparently Sigelei and P4Y have made it USB chargeable and firmware upgradeable.

 

[abrb701]

Thats not what my post meant lol, it was meant to tell anyone with questions on anything related to the iPV's that they are free to post any and all questions related to it , not just iPV settings, battery info and builds .

Where is my mod (i don't know) and vendor issues are all relevant. Comments like "this thread was good until" are ridiculous , good up until ? for you but not the others asking questions some happen to not be interested in.

If a question is asked it should be answered to the best of anyones ability , obviously that question is important to somebody so it's important, period . The fact that someone else doesn't want to hear about it and wants to talk about something else isn't fair at all.

I see, I think that's a good point.

So I'm having wicking issues, which has never really happened when I was using the mechanical, when you guys wick with cotton, if you look inside the coil is the cotton filling the middle, or can you see space between the coil and the cotton? It was working well for a bit, but now my 1.5 single coil tastes burnt, even at 23 watts, and any lower and it just doesn't hit well.

Its funny, I thought I was pretty experienced until I got the IPV2, now I feel like a beginner again. With the zmax I could build a great coil with no wicking issues, but now I am definitely having issues.