Is ECF dying?

[evan le'garde]

And i gave up cycling in the rain about 2 years ago. I just won't do it anymore.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

In Spain cycling is a big thing,same as Italy and France.

Giro, TDF + Vuelta ... enough said, and all the crazy beautiful fans.

10 pages in we're up to 199 replies and 5093 views. We ain't dying yet.

 

[evan le'garde]

Best reply to someone in a car who shouts "there's a cycle lane over there" at you as they drive pass.

GET A BIKE THEN !.

 

[Javichu]

I get that. I totally understand what you mean. And i do enjoy cycling, a lot !.

Trying to struggle against the wind and maintain a reasonable speed is "not" fun at all. Imagine "not" trying to go fast when the wind is behind you. On Tuesday, with gusts of 30 ish miles an hour, I was cycling 13 -14 miles an hour against the wind and just 16-18 miles an hour with the wind. I could have travelled over 20 miles an hour with the wind if i wanted. But i'd burn out about 10 miles from the finish completely exhausted. I've smoked for over 30 years, i simply cannot cycling the way my brain thinks i can, my lungs know better, so i hang back.

Depending on your location then yeah maybe indoor cycling is the only option.
Here saturdays and sundays are crazy when it comes to cyclist and bikers,all the major roads with bars in them (lets face it,its Spain bars are everywhere) are packed with cyclist groups/clubs and bikers who get together before or after their run.

Here in this area wind is not really a problem and the weather is perfect for that type of activity so that is why you see so many.

And i gave up cycling in the rain about 2 years ago. I just won't do it anymore.

Ditto,i still get nightmares from this one time i went to visit a girlfriend i had (was only 15) and only had my bike.
She was 25 km. away,the ride back it was pouring rain...what a nightmare.

P.S. Forgot to add that 50km bike ride was totally worth it,that was our first serious kiss

 

[evan le'garde]

The rain destroys my headset and BB bearings. BB's are easy to switch out, takes about ten minutes ( shimano hollowtech crankset with exterior threaded BB cups). But the headset bearings are a lot more complicated to replace so take much longer. Chain comes off and replaced at 2000 miles but i still got sick of having to clean and oil it everytime it got wet, god the crap it picks up in the rain is unbelieveable. These days i dry clean the bike with WD40 and keep the bike dry all the time now.

 

[Myrany]

I'd prefer to do what you're doing actually !. I thought about a "Turbo Trainer" but i'm not sure if a bike frame, any bike frame, is designed for the stress produced by them.

One thing i will tell you though. "Cadence". Cadence is probably the most important part. Keeping up a comfortable "easy to maintain" rhythm. I've been doing this now for about 8 years. At the moment i cycle fifty miles a day (approx 2500 kcal burned daily).

Low to no impact cycling is far and away better, and a lot less hard work, than Jogging (it doesn't wear out the soles of your shoes either).

There is a not so obvious difference between cycling on the roads and cycling on an exercise bike though. And that's "resistence", wind resistence !. It constantly changes outdoors, whereas an exercise bike's resistence will be fixed, or can be altered but remains the same during use (I could be wrong, maybe there are more advanced exercise bikes that can auto adjust resistence during use). Anyhow, outdoors it's a constant struggle to maintain cadence with wind, gusts or a change of direction. The point is to keep cycling at the same rate of rotation no matter what the resistence is. A windy day with winds of 20 mph and gusts of 30 means, on a route which takes you in all directions, more calories will be burnt than on a day where there is for example half as much wind. Depending on what type of exercise you are doing, whether it's muscle building/toning, or just plain old calorie burning will determine how hard you think you should be working. For me it's solely for calorie/cholesterol burning.

Working your muscles means having to raise your heart rate to burn fat. But if you're just doing it to burn calories/ cholesterol then you don't actually have to work too hard at all, it just take longer. So cadence is more pertinent to my style of cycling rather than toning etc. Trying to maintain a reasonable speed against a relatively strong wind turns the pleasure of cycling into an absolute nightmare. It's enough to make you want to give up completely !.

I can't imagine what these guys i see out on the road, in their high speed clothing, and lightweight road bikes, are thinking when they just assume they can race against the wind for 20 miles. I do know one thing though, i never see the same guy twice. I just have to assume they simply couldn't work out how people do it, gave up and went home to put their bike up for sale on Ebay.

Racing against the wind is futile !.

My cadence is slow as it is new to me I manage about 65 rpm. The instructor programmed ride automatically changes both the incline/decline and resistance level to match what they are seeing as they are cycling so I don't have to adjust anything unless it was way to much for me. I did have to scale it back when she put in a 15 degree incline. I just couldnt do it. I do try to stay consistent. My one attempt at spin class convinced me I am in no way ready for that yet. LOL

Caveates: I am in my 50s and am still about 35 pounds overweight and working on that. So I tend to go slow until I get stronger. It took me a year and a half of walking to even try jogging. I think it will take me more than the 2 weeks I have had the bike before I am really comfy with it.

One thing I do love about this bike is the built in fan. Louisiana in summer even with AC gets pretty hot when riding.

7 years ago before vaping I could never have thought of even trying this. Progress is a good thing.

 

[zoiDman]

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10 pages in we're up to 199 replies and 5093 views. We ain't dying yet.

Yeah... 199 replies.

And some of them are even On Topic.

 

[Aliraonz]

I am relatively new to ECF so I cant say how it was before but I really like it and people are very supportive.

This will get a few of us on a bike even if it is stationary

 

[CaveFurby]

Could be our forum posts are down, sure. But ECF is what we make of it, now and in the future. A world forum for vapers, how cool is that?! And if vaping is attacked and forced out of the mainstream of some countries as we're seeing, at least we'll have this forum to share and meet up. How many of us right now don't know a single vaper in our real lives, but know plenty here. Without getting too maudlin, it's kind of a safe haven in the current storm. I'm willing to bet it'll be around for a long time yet.

 

[dreamvaper]

10 pages in we're up to 199 replies and 5093 views. We ain't dying yet

Or maybe there are a lot of necrophiliacs around

 

[Richard Winter]

Definitely not dying. Not been on here for 2yrs, no excuses. I'm in the UK and still hear really good things about this forum.

 

[fiddleshe]

All this cycling talk and not one person mentioned if their bike is equipped with a vape holder.

 

[Mordacai]

@Cloud-FF7, you could use one of those fans with a washable filter to exhale vapour into.

And yes folks, the HDTV as a monitor is awesome. I use a Intel compute stick as a media player with a Logitech K830 TV wireless keyboard for media playback, but the same setup could be used with forums and YouTube.

 

[Javichu]

@Cloud-FF7, you could use one of those fans with a washable filter to exhale vapour into.

And yes folks, the HDTV as a monitor is awesome. I use a Intel compute stick as a media player with a Logitech K830 TV wireless keyboard for media playback, but the same setup could be used with forums and YouTube.

Yeah i'll have to look into that.
Door is open but i have no window so ventilation isn't exactly ideal.
Taking my pc in to get it cleaned on monday,1 day without pc and 30 euros and i'm not happy.

But you know if it keeps my pc alive that is what i have to do.

 

[Mordacai]

30 euros to clean a PC @Cloud-FF, if that's for a blow down with compressed air and going over with a brush it's steep.

If it is a bit gunked up it'll need a wipe down with Isopropyl Alcohol and Distilled water to remove any residue.

I've got to get some more filters for my partners PC and clean the built in ones, which will be fun.

But I do miss my dated watercooled behemoth, not so much in warm weather though. I haven't even had a chance to try out my Creative Sound Blaster ZxR sound card yet, as I do like good quality audio.

 

[Javichu]

30 euros to clean a PC @Cloud-FF, if that's for a blow down with compressed air and going over with a brush it's steep.

If it is a bit gunked up it'll need a wipe down with Isopropyl Alcohol and Distilled water to remove any residue.

I've got to get some more filters for my partners PC and clean the built in ones, which will be fun.

But I do miss my dated watercooled behemoth, not so much in warm weather though. I haven't even had a chance to try out my Creative Sound Blaster ZxR sound card yet, as I do like good quality audio.

Just for a clean up it's 10 euros but this time he is taking the whole thing apart.
July and august are the hotter months here so i don't want to risk it.

This is the only part i miss from smoking,yeah the pc smelled but there was no gunk hehe

 

[Mordacai]

You mean less gunk @Cloud-FF7, may be a good idea to get the heatsink off and get things properly done.

 

[Myrany]

All this cycling talk and not one person mentioned if their bike is equipped with a vape holder.

Cup holder works well for that

 

[Katya]

Could be our forum posts are down, sure. But ECF is what we make of it, now and in the future. A world forum for vapers, how cool is that?! And if vaping is attacked and forced out of the mainstream of some countries as we're seeing, at least we'll have this forum to share and meet up. How many of us right now don't know a single vaper in our real lives, but know plenty here. Without getting too maudlin, it's kind of a safe haven in the current storm. I'm willing to bet it'll be around for a long time yet.

Very well said. I'll be here to the bitter end, methinks.

Besides, with all those laws and regulations, this forum might become a very useful resource for many vapers--old and new--all over again.

 

[ENAUD]

I'd prefer to do what you're doing actually !. I thought about a "Turbo Trainer" but i'm not sure if a bike frame, any bike frame, is designed for the stress produced by them.

One thing i will tell you though. "Cadence". Cadence is probably the most important part. Keeping up a comfortable "easy to maintain" rhythm. I've been doing this now for about 8 years. At the moment i cycle fifty miles a day (approx 2500 kcal burned daily).

Low to no impact cycling is far and away better, and a lot less hard work, than Jogging (it doesn't wear out the soles of your shoes either).

There is a not so obvious difference between cycling on the roads and cycling on an exercise bike though. And that's "resistence", wind resistence !. It constantly changes outdoors, whereas an exercise bike's resistence will be fixed, or can be altered but remains the same during use (I could be wrong, maybe there are more advanced exercise bikes that can auto adjust resistence during use). Anyhow, outdoors it's a constant struggle to maintain cadence with wind, gusts or a change of direction. The point is to keep cycling at the same rate of rotation no matter what the resistence is. A windy day with winds of 20 mph and gusts of 30 means, on a route which takes you in all directions, more calories will be burnt than on a day where there is for example half as much wind. Depending on what type of exercise you are doing, whether it's muscle building/toning, or just plain old calorie burning will determine how hard you think you should be working. For me it's solely for calorie/cholesterol burning.

Working your muscles means having to raise your heart rate to burn fat. But if you're just doing it to burn calories/ cholesterol then you don't actually have to work too hard at all, it just take longer. So cadence is more pertinent to my style of cycling rather than toning etc. Trying to maintain a reasonable speed against a relatively strong wind turns the pleasure of cycling into an absolute nightmare. It's enough to make you want to give up completely !.

I can't imagine what these guys i see out on the road, in their high speed clothing, and lightweight road bikes, are thinking when they just assume they can race against the wind for 20 miles. I do know one thing though, i never see the same guy twice. I just have to assume they simply couldn't work out how people do it, gave up and went home to put their bike up for sale on Ebay.

Racing against the wind is futile !.

pedaling against the wind is akin to climbing a hill with no soul...I took up cycling about 2-1/2 years ago after a 35 year hiatus...it has been a wonderful endeavor...I am lucky in having over a hundred miles of greenway just a short distance drive from my doorstep, as the roadways around me are a deathtrap for cycling. In the real world, if riding geared bike, headwinds just mean slower forward progress, it's all about time and cadence. Everyone has their own natural cadence, and when you find it. it is just like breathing. you don't even think about it. you just do it...