Is getting a mech mod worth it?

[Tyler Isabell]

What is the appeal to mechanical mods? I own a smok GX350 was one of the first few people to get the TFV12, and I want to get a good mech mod just to change up my vaping experience. Is there anything that is really equivalent to the clouds or flavor I'd get with my current setup? Or am I missing something?

 

[Darth Omerta]

If you are considering buying a mech then there are some things you need to know...

First of all, battery safety and ohms law are required knowledge. Let me be more specific, knowing about battery safety and ohms law isnt enough, you need to fully understand both subjects before using a mech. The following blogs should help you get started:

Mooch's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
Baditude's blog | E-Cigarette Forum

Next thing I would say is that I simply dont trust direct to battery mechs(or faux hybrids as they were once called, and still are in many cases). They require the use of atomizers with a protruding pin in the 510 connection and can be highly dangerous if the pin isnt long enough. Thats not to say they cant be used safely, but I just dont trust them. I prefer mechs that have an adjustable pin in the 510.

I would also mention that I dont trust the use of a prefab coil on a mech. For mech use, I would say that building your own coils and the ability to monitor your build is crucial as it allows you to keep an eye on things and make sure nothing is shorting out on you. I know of some people who use prefab coils on mechs and have success but its not something I would recommend. I dont even like the idea of using an RTA on a mech. I strongly believe that for mech use RDAs are the best option available.

With a solid understanding of how mechs work, battery safety and ohms law, they can provide an excellent vape. They can provide massive amounts of both flavor and cloud but it is 100% dependent on you and your understanding of how to build effectively and safely for your desired result.

 

[Tyler Isabell]

With a solid understanding of how mechs work, battery safety and ohms law, they can provide an excellent vape. They can provide massive amounts of both flavor and cloud but it is 100% dependent on you and your understanding of how to build effectively and safely for your desired result.

But realistically can i build something to match the few limits on such a beefy device?

 

[Ben85]

This thread may be of some use After using modern VW mods, are you happy with the limitations of a Mech mod ?

 

[Don29palms]

A quality mech mod is going to cost alot more than your average regulated mod. You might want to get a good RDA and learn to build coils first.

 

[Bad Ninja]

But realistically can i build something to match the few limits on such a beefy device?

If what you are asking is
"Can a mech mod and an RDA match the performamce of your current setup, meaning clouds and flavor"?

Yes.
Even more.
And the vape is different, because mechs do not have a chip.
Chips use PWM to deliver power.
With a mech its pure and smooth.


Once you understand how your gear really works, it will become clear.
The only reason we have 200w mods is to fire huge masses of wire used in artsy coils.
They do not perform better. They are inefficient. But they do look pretty.



Vaping safely on a mech takes a bit of research on your part.
Being careless is a sure way to get hurt.

 

[Tyler Isabell]

A quality mech mod is going to cost alot more than your average regulated mod. You might want to get a good RDA and learn to build coils first.

My current setup is like 250$, money is no object. I have been building for about a year now. I just want to get an idea of what the best mech+battery combo would give me as far as clouds/flavor since while I know ohms law, i dont know anything about mech mods.

 

[Tyler Isabell]

Yes.
Even more.
And the vape is different, because mechs do not have a chip.
Chips use PWM to deliver power.
With a mech its pure and smooth.

OK, you've sold me. What would you recommend as far as the best one out there right now? Money is no object

The only reason we have 200w mods is to fire huge masses of wire used in artsy coils.

Mine goes up to 350 watts

 

[Don29palms]

What setup do you have now? From what I understand the filipinos make some of the best mech mods.

 

[Tyler Isabell]

What setup do you have now? From what I understand the filipinos make some of the best mech mods.

Refer to the original post

 

[Don29palms]

Refer to the original post

You got ripped off then or you're less than truthful. $250 for a GX350 and a TFV12 is ridiculous.

 

[Tintreach]

K, you've sold me. What would you recommend as far as the best one out there right now? Money is no object

Well newer isn't always better when it comes to Tube Mechs. If I was going to invest into more mechs, theses are still on my chopping block to find someday.

GP PAPS
Mark Bugs Wizard
Timekeeper Revolver (Always thought it looked awesome)

Anything Super-T will be a hard hitting freight train that will outlast even the cockroaches.
I've always been fond of the Nemesis, they work and you can find parts for days for them. Original or clones

I have no input on box mechs.... not my thing. Atty's....meh. It's all subjection to looks and person preference. I'm still rocking a VHO Helios on one of my mods just because it is great for what it is and looks great on the mod. They're married now.

 

[niczgreat]

I know these are fighting words but the new generation of Sub Ohm Variable Watt devices can do everything a mechanical can do and more.
Considering that mechanicals have no safety protection features I just don't see a reason for them anymore.

I used to vape on mechanicals and then I tried VW and I haven't looked back.

 

[Tintreach]

I know these are fighting words but the new generation of Sub Ohm Variable Watt devices can do everything a mechanical can do and more.
Considering that mechanicals have no safety protection features I just don't see a reason for them anymore.

I used to vape on mechanicals and then I tried VW and I haven't looked back.

I don't think it's fighting words, at least not to me. It is a different vape for the most part. Most importantly it's a great educational experience to further understand vaping and electrical fundamentals better. Some may argue they prefer the purity or simplicity of it which I can understand. I personally like the feel of a tube mod over a box mod in my hand most of the time.

I have here on my desk today both an Alien w/ Pharaoh and a Nemi with the Wotofo Serpent...... the mech has got more use today than my Alien.... and I love my TC stuff.

...not to mention a good mech topped with the right atty can be a pretty classy chunk of metal.

 

[Tyler Isabell]

You got ripped off then or you're less than truthful. $250 for a GX350 and a TFV12 is ridiculous.

Thats just what I spent on everything that day including 8 batteries, a 40$ charger, probably 20$ of juice, coil heads, etc. My local shops prices aren't that good as far as hardware, but they run a great business in my area and I like supporting them. I also got one of the very first TFV12s that were sold, so it was a little steep to say the least.

It was probably more like 150-200$ or so for the two main pieces.

 

[Tyler Isabell]

Most importantly it's a great educational experience to further understand vaping and electrical fundamentals better.

That was my main reason for wanting a reason to get one. Hopefully going to major in some sort of computer science, so getting to know more about how electricity works just might be a good thing.

 

[Bad Ninja]

OK, you've sold me. What would you recommend as far as the best one out there right now? Money is no object


Mine goes up to 350 watts

Until you have a thorough grasp of whats happening when you press the button, Id suggest sticking with regulated devices.
This is one situation where throwing money blindly will get you hurt.

There is no "best one".
Once you understand how they work, this will become clear.

A quality mech mod is going to cost alot more than your average regulated mod. You might want to get a good RDA and learn to build coils first.

Dont fall for the money trap.
Its a damn soft brass tube with a horn switch.
Paying $300 for an authentic logo isn't going to give me a better vape, just a lighter wallet.

The setup Im using daily costs less than $30.

Ill stress again...
Do the research and educate yourself before you buy.

 

[stormjib]

You have more immediate flexibility with a regulated mod. Reading between the lines, I suggest that you might want to look at series pwm mods rather than tube mods. You'll still have adjustability but won't be capped by 4.2 volts at full charge, 3.7 at nominal charge...you'll have double that. IMO the new pwm chips are the future of vaping, and the best of both worlds. I'll always still have tube mechs, though...they're the only things that will work practically no matter what. And the experience of using one with a nice bottom button is fantastic, just very satisfying.

 

[gpjoe]

You might want to check out a Geekvape Karma Kit. Solid copper, lined tube (for safety), direct to battery (safe if used properly), magnetic switch, and the kit comes with an RDTA that converts to an RDA. It's an authentic Geekvape product for under 30 bucks (from China).

I have one and it looks and works great.

I have also used Able clones and they are solid. Just be aware of the atomizer 510 pin on any of these mods - it needs to protrude from the threads of the 510 connector to be safe on a direct to battery mod.

I know you said that money was no object, but the Geekvape kit is a good place to start, if you're not sure you want to jump into tube mechs. Why spend hundreds to find out you don't like them?

 

[KenD]

You might want to check out a Geekvape Karma Kit. Solid copper, lined tube (for safety), direct to battery (safe if used properly), magnetic switch, and the kit comes with an RDTA that converts to an RDA. It's an authentic Geekvape product for under 30 bucks (from China).

I have one and it looks and works great.

I have also used Able clones and they are solid. Just be aware of the atomizer 510 pin on any of these mods - it needs to protrude from the threads of the 510 connector to be safe on a direct to battery mod.

I know you said that money was no object, but the Geekvape kit is a good place to start, if you're not sure you want to jump into tube mechs. Why spend hundreds to find out you don't like them?

I don't think a direct to battery mech is a good place to start.

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