Is it possible I'm PG sensitive? ???

[Completely Average]

Yeah, far too many shops are startups that are run by people who know less than most people here do about the products they sell. I've had more than my fair share of problems with locally mixed juices. Luckily I found one shop that is local that knows exactly what they are doing and are very well priced.

But a shop that doesn't even know what ratios they are mixing up is a REALLY bad sign. I would avoid such a place like the plague, because if they don't know what ratios they are mixing then who knows where they are picking up the ingredients. Probably cheap Chinese made stuff that includes things you don't want.



Out of curiosity, how far away from Aiken are you?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

They said the only person that knew was the owner. That's why I've ordered from zeusejuice. I can order any way I want. They make to order the local vendor seems to just put whatever together and didn't seem concerned when I was trying to get info from them. The shops were worse. I was hung up on by tech support multiple times. So unless I need equipment im not going back. Unfortunately this is the only ecig set up I've had that I like.

i hate it when the voices in my head go silent....i never know what those .......**s are planning

Once you get your problem sorted out this will all be a bad dream. At least you're on the right track.
Wishing You the Best of Luck.

P.S. I run a non profit vape prog and for the first year+ did all the mixing myself. Every single bottle was labelled and all batches were tested. Everyone knew exactly what was what and if they didn't know or had any questions I was always available and more than happy to answer any questions. If there was any question as to the Nic level or PG/ VG ratio it was disposed of.

 

[cowbooger88]

Yeah, far too many shops are startups that are run by people who know less than most people here do about the products they sell. I've had more than my fair share of problems with locally mixed juices. Luckily I found one shop that is local that knows exactly what they are doing and are very well priced.

But a shop that doesn't even know what ratios they are mixing up is a REALLY bad sign. I would avoid such a place like the plague, because if they don't know what ratios they are mixing then who knows where they are picking up the ingredients. Probably cheap Chinese made stuff that includes things you don't want.



Out of curiosity, how far away from Aiken are you?

I'd say 2-5 hours lol. Not really sure I've heard of it just never been. I'm not originally for South Carolina so I'm still learning

i hate it when the voices in my head go silent....i never know what those .......**s are planning

 

[cowbooger88]

I am picking up a new tank today after work. I'm still itching, even though I drained last night's mix out. There is still traces of the other mix in it. I'm picking up 3 though. So when my new mixes come in I can narrow it down (one is peach out of curiosity, 0 mg nicotine free sample in 40/60 and will fill on of the tanks)

i hate it when the voices in my head go silent....i never know what those .......**s are planning

 

[Completely Average]

Blast! Too far. I actually know of a good vape shop in Aiken, but I'm not going to try to send you on that drive!

What general area are you in? Maybe I could help find a better local shop for you.

 

[MikeS71]

Again, I'd be willing to bet youll find its a flavoring issue. If you had such a severe reaction to juice that was 70/30 or 60/40, just reducing to 40/60 would not have eliminated the symptoms.

 

[Completely Average]

Again, I'd be willing to bet youll find its a flavoring issue. If you had such a severe reaction to juice that was 70/30 or 60/40, just reducing to 40/60 would not have eliminated the symptoms.

She hasn't reduced to a 40/60 mix yet.

But the symptoms are consistent with PG being the problem. She knows that at 60% she was getting headaches and nausea without the peach, and at 70-80% PG (I'm inclined to believe it's 80) she broke out in hives.

The fact that she did have symptoms before the peach, and that the symptoms got dramatically worse with a higher PG content it's almost certainly the PG. The flavor is possible, but that wouldn't explain the headaches and such before trying the peach flavor. You have to go back to the beginning of this thread and her other thread, but she was experiencing the headaches and nausea with menthol flavoring.

 

[cowbooger88]

Thank you completely average!!!!!

i hate it when the voices in my head go silent....i never know what those .......**s are planning

 

[MikeS71]

I'm just figuring that being where I was as a smoker 12mg may be light. When I was using the ecigcharleston.com juice my throat actually broke out to what looked like strep the next day. That was with 18mg. Once I switched to the zeus it wasn't bad, minus the small headache and nausea but once I mixed in more of the ecigchs juice the hives started. I'm calling them tom to verify there ratio

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This is the post I was referring to... if the symptoms subsided when switching juices and then returned when mixing in the original problem causer then I would think its something in the original juice- not necessarily the PG... if it was the PG then it wouldn't matter who made the juice- Charlestonecig or Zeus, PG is PG... if switching to the Zeus led to reduced symtpoms, and the Zeus is not 100% VG then the culprit is much more likely an additive... maybe I'm missing something.

 

[Completely Average]

if it was the PG then it wouldn't matter who made the juice- Charlestonecig or Zeus, PG is PG....

But PG at 60% is not the same as PG at 80%.

It's like being allergic to cat hair. One hair won't bother you, 20 may cause some minor irritation, and holding a whole handful will cause you to have a full blown reaction. It's all the same cat hair, right?


If it was the flavoring then ALL of the symptoms would disappear when she switched from one vendor to another and switched from menthol to peach. Instead of disappearing the symptoms got worse.

ALL of the symptoms are indicative of PG. Sore throat, headache, nausea, and hives. All increased severity with a higher PG content, and changing the flavor and nicotine levels didn't make the symptoms go away. There is a very outside chance of there being some ingredient in a flavor that caused it, but to run into the same ingredient from 2 drastically different flavors (menthol and peach) provided by two different vendors....... your odds of that happening are about the same as winning the lottery.

 

[cowbooger88]

After calling all the shops I finally found one who does custom mixing and is willing to help address the problem.

i hate it when the voices in my head go silent....i never know what those .......**s are planning

 

[MikeS71]

I hear you... regardless of what it is, good luck getting it sorted out- stay with it and off the smokes!

 

[cowbooger88]

Trying but it's been more and more difficult lately haha. The girl was extremely helpful. I had one of the shops tell me I can't do anything under 80p/20v because it will ruin my ecig I'll keep everyone updated as this may help someone

i hate it when the voices in my head go silent....i never know what those .......**s are planning

 

[Completely Average]

After calling all the shops I finally found one who does custom mixing and is willing to help address the problem.

EXCELLENT.

That's what you really need. Someone who knows what they are doing, is familiar with PG sensitivities, and is willing to sit down with you and try several mixtures to find the right one for you. A good shop that is willing to go the extra mile in customer service is a must for any ecig user.

Like we discussed earlier, give a 100% PG, no flavor, no nicotine a half dozen puffs or so and see how you feel after a few minutes. If your symptoms return then there is no reason to test any farther, you know exactly what is causing the problem.

At that point you can try a 40/60 or 20/80 mix if you want, but you can use a 100% VG as well. 100% VG is thick and can gunk up your ecig, but it can also be diluted slightly with distilled water to eliminate those problems. There are even some online shops that do an 80/20 mix of VG/Distilled Water so it's prediluted and still full flavored.

 

[patkin]

Some good info here but will add just a bit. One of my grand kids breaks out in hives only when she's worried. It didn't happen to her until she was in her mid-teens the first time and doesn't happen from any other cause... like physical allergies. Her mother was in the hospital... that kind of worry... maturity brings caring with it. Her body produces histamine as a reaction to that kind of stress. Benadryl sprayed on them helped. It could be you're worried about what vaping is doing to you and the hives aren't because of what you're vaping. I'm no doc of course... just a grandma. Racehorse gave you good advice. I would follow it.

 

[cowbooger88]

Thank you! I'm nervous, as she suggested doing the 100% pg also which I will be going tommorow to test. She said she's a bit worried to try the test but suggested bringing benadryl along also. From there we will go onto mixes. She said she will mix with either vodka or water depending on the amount of th hit I want, honestly I'll be fine with none but I won't know until tom thanks for all the help it's good to have friends in this new world

i hate it when the voices in my head go silent....i never know what those .......**s are planning

 

[Completely Average]

When you do the test do not vape until you feel ill. Take a few puffs and stop. If it's the PG it will take a few minutes before you really start feeling it and you don't want to be taking in more and more the whole time you do. Just 4-6 puffs should be plenty.

Sounds like the employee is worried about you having a severe reaction and needing an ambulance. If your allergy were that severe then you would have already made that trip with the amount that you've vaped already. I can understand her hesitation and I suspect it's more legally motivated than medically.

Good luck, and I hope you get everything straightened out so you can get back to enjoying life without feeling sick all the time.

 

[DetraMental]

Your symptoms sound just like mine when I first started out vaping. I was using a high pg juice. I now use a 50/50 and have had no further issues. Some of your symptoms could be detoxifying from cigarettes. Others may be to much nicotine, you may need to go lower but keep the higher on hand for bad withdrawal cravings. I had to use a really good lotion on my skin due to the breakout, much like your hives. You should check with your doctor about the hives. I know they can be triggered by stress. I haven't read all the posts so I'm off to do that now. I'm sure I'll edit this afterwards.

Ok I'll stick with what I already posted and say that Completely Average has a good idea going.

I had all your symptoms with too high a pg percentage and was glad I didn't have to go completely vg since it is so thick. I'm glad you found a place that will work with you on the ratio so you can find what works for you too. Last but not least, try to relax and not stress over this and your hives will fade away gradually. Take care of yourself and stay HYDRATED while vaping it is really really important! Good luck to ya girl and Happy Vaping!

 

[cowbooger88]

The hives only started after in taking the local vendor mix they have gone away though I am avoiding it like the plague I'll update tom

i hate it when the voices in my head go silent....i never know what those .......**s are planning

 

[matthews1977]

Go to a Blu retailer, they're everywhere. Any Sheetz will have cart packs and any 510 thread tank should screw on to your battery (albeit, it'll look hella strange.). If you have a manual button, no more than 3 second pulls on these carts! They're designed for a casual drag and 3.7 volts. Get a 5 pack of refills in the flavor you like. They'll cost ya, but they're 100% VG juices. Run through the pack of 5 and be sure to drink plenty of water. If your health improves, you need VG. No need to wait on all these people when 100% VG is on a store shelf ready to go.