Is it time to boycott CVS? The 'no tobacco' policy may be worse than you thought

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I coughed quite a bit when I started vaping, even on very low-performance gear.... If she really "walked through a cloud" it's surely not out of the question. It's not like she was on the other side of the room. And given the follow-up she certainly didn't sound like an unreasonable person.

ETA: In an attempt to get this back to the OP.

CVS is playing a carefully orchestrated chess game. They want a closer alliance with BP because they believe it will give them an inside advantage. They are working on expanding their pharmacy role to a wider "health-care-stop" approach. (They already give Flu and Shingles shots, for example).

They are dumping cigarettes because they expect to make up that (and more) by deepening their relationships with Pharma, Doctors, and Hospitals.

Don't kid yourself about it being "Good PR", that's just a side-effect. The real story is a behind-the-scenes move.

copy that :cheers:
 

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Ok, now this:

I just caught a TeeVee ad for CVS Health, announcing their "comprehensive quit smoking program." Mind you they don't tell you squat about what that program really is in the ad spot. No details, but I'm sure that is coming.

Also need to look up exactly what this newly formed "CVS Health" is all about. Looks like the Minute Clinics are being expanded.

I would still like to give CVS some benefit of doubt here, but if they are going to start calling customers MD's from the pharmacy, pimping for a signature on a Chantix prescription then this has really gone too far. What the hell is really going down here? In context of CVS losses on cutting ties with tobacco, what are they getting out of this campaign? And how are they getting it?

Keep an eye open for that new CVS Health ad campaign on the BoobToob.
 

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Statement by Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell on CVS ending tobacco sales

We applaud CVS Health for becoming tobacco-free and ending the sale of cigarettes and tobacco products at its 7,700 CVS/pharmacy locations. CVS accomplished their goal one month ahead of their deadline of October 1.

We also commend CVS Health on the launch of their national and personalized smoking cessation program.

CVS Heath’s tobacco free policy is an unprecedented step in the retail industry, and will have an impact in bringing our country closer to achieving a tobacco-free generation, a call to action that we announced in January.

We hope others will follow CVS Health’s lead in this important new step to curtail tobacco use.

Gag.
 

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Wow. I wonder what's really under the hood? This is the poop on their program, right from the horses... mouth.

Minute Clinic smoking cessation

Complete with quotations from the CDC (cited) and sketchy benefits regurgitated from the American Cancer Society. :facepalm:

Seriously, what are they concretely offering and how much is it going to cost for this service? It says you will get stuff from a Nurse Practitioner such as "Nicotine-replacement recommendations or prescriptions written when clinically appropriate." Knowing how outrageous CVS prices are on medications I wonder what the going rate is at CVS for a Chantix starter kit. Gonna call.

Hmmm... Start Today What's this button do?

Quit Smoking- CVS can help you quit smoking for good click!

Ask a Pharmacist

Did you know you could go to your pharmacist for advice? Ask about support, cessation assessments and tips on quitting.

Visit MinuteClinic®
Quit with medication

:blink: Ka-ching!

I'm betting this backfires for CVS. Regardless my personal boycott has officially started. :mad:
 

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I took their "quiz" to see how dependent I am on nicotine (I answered based on what my answers would have been a year ago) and I got this:

You’re moderately dependent on nicotine.

Your health care practitioner may suggest nicotine replacement therapies that include patches, inhalers, lozenges or gum.


I retook it, changing my cigarette number to "31 or more" and got this:

You have high nicotine dependence.

Patches, inhalers, lozenges or gum may be among the nicotine replacement therapies that your health care practitioner recommends.


Ka ching is right!! ALL heavy smokers would benefit from nicotine replacement therapy! :w00t: Guys I've found the answer, we can all stop vaping now! Ha ha :D

To their credit, if they classify you as a having "light nicotine dependence" they say you can probably get away with not using NRTs. That is, if they have any integrity left whatsoever after this...
 

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After digging around a little more I found this gem:

Therapeutic nicotine products like patches, lozenges and gum are safer than smoking.

Cigarette smoke, on the other hand, is composed of over 7,000* chemicals, making it deadly.

NRT products are designed to provide a temporary source of therapeutic nicotine. This can be reduced gradually over a period of time to make it easier to adjust to life without cigarettes. If you follow your NRT program correctly, you can be nicotine-free by the end.

Although a nonsmoker might feel sick if they used NRT products, they are safe for people who smoke regularly. The side effects you might get from them are generally mild. You might get a slightly sore throat if you use nicotine lozenges or gum. Nicotine patches can cause redness and itching. You should always read the information in the pack before you use a product. In the unlikely event that you experience unusual or severe side effects, contact a health care professional.

If you are pregnant or breastfeeding, the best course of action is to give up smoking without using an NRT product. However, it is better to stop smoking using these products than to continue smoking. As with all medicines, if you are pregnant and want to use these products, you should talk to a health care professional first.

NRT products can also be used by people with heart disease unless you're in hospital because of heart problems. In which case consult your doctor before use of NRT.


You don't say? :glare: Hmm...

Funny thing is, all you need is a little editing...

Therapeutic nicotine products like patches, lozenges and gum E-cigarettes are safer than smoking.

Cigarette smoke, on the other hand, is composed of over 7,000* chemicals, making it deadly.

NRT products E-cigarettes are designed to provide a temporary source of therapeutic nicotine. This can be reduced gradually over a period of time to make it easier to adjust to life without cigarettes. If you follow your NRT program correctly reduce your nicotine dosage gradually, you can be nicotine-free by the end.

Although a nonsmoker might feel sick if they used NRT products e-cigarettes, they are safe for people who smoke regularly. The side effects you might get from them are generally mild. You might get a slightly sore throat if you use nicotine lozenges or gum e-cigarettes. Nicotine patches can cause redness and itching. You should always read the information in the pack before you use a product. In the unlikely event that you experience unusual or severe side effects, contact a health care professional.

If you are pregnant or breastfeeding, the best course of action is to give up smoking without using an NRT product e-cigarettes. However, it is better to stop smoking using these products than to continue smoking. As with all medicines, if you are pregnant and want to use these products, you should talk to a health care professional first.

NRT products E-cigarettes can also be used by people with heart disease unless you're in hospital because of heart problems. In which case consult your doctor before use of NRT e-cigarettes.


... and you have a true statement about e-cigarettes! Funny how that works. :D
 
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Am I the only one who finds it a bit incongruous that CVS is now going to offer quit-smoking kits to all the smokers who no longer have any reason to go in their store?

I think Sen. Burr was the first after the Sen. from RI made the announcement at the HELP hearing. Then likely anyone who watched and understood the hearings, likely got that as well.
 

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Am I the only one who finds it a bit incongruous that CVS is now going to offer quit-smoking kits to all the smokers who no longer have any reason to go in their store?

I LOVE YOU MAN!!! :wub: lol

Oh yeah, what was I saying?:

I'm betting this backfires for CVS. Regardless my personal boycott has officially started. :mad:

They would have lost me as a smoker looking for a cessation program that actually worked. Been there, done that, x... well times so many times I lost count.

They sure as hell have lost all my business now as a vaper. My prescriptions are getting transferred today. And I'm burning my orange CVS Rewards card - just because I can. CVS can put that in their corporate pipe and inhale it.

I would love to hear Bill Godshall's viewpoint on what CVS is doing, especially if he is aware of any financial incentives CVS is getting for this crap, either directly or indirectly from the ACS, the ALA, the CDC, HHS, or directly from the gubbermint in any form.
 

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I took their "quiz" to see how dependent I am on nicotine (I answered based on what my answers would have been a year ago) and I got this

I based my responses on my dual using / moderate smoking self. IOW, I was honest. Thing is, one of the quiz items was "I would hate to give up" a) first smoke in the morning or b) any smoke after that in the day. I chose to leave that blank as neither applies to me. Form wouldn't continue, so I then felt forced to fill that with a or b and went with b. Scored 1/10 on the quiz with result showing: 1/10 dependency, "Your nicotine dependence is low. While you may not need nicotine replacement therapies, your health care practitioner may want to monitor you for withdrawal symptoms."

Makes me want to go monitor the health care practitioner at CVS Health and challenge their science. Though wouldn't be a fair fight, and so gotta wait for the right day that I truly feel like embarrassing CVS Health on their chosen, misguided course.
 

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At least one news outlet reported the other side, namely, that not everyone thinks that CVS' decision to not sell e-cigarettes is a good one. :)

E-Cigarette Makers Fuming Over CVS Tobacco Ban - ABC News

From the "subtle, yet there" department:

Anyone else happen to notice that within the URL itself for that story it actually reads: Health/cigarette-makers-fuming-cvs-tobacco-ban/ (emphasis added)

Perhaps that story started out as something other than what it ended up as? Or it's just another example of the sloppy "excellence in journalism" we have all come to expect. Meh.

Nice to see Julie and CASSA get a public mention, other than that nothing profound in that blurb. (See "excellence in journalism"..)
 

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From the "subtle, yet there" department:

Anyone else happen to notice that within the URL itself for that story it actually reads: Health/cigarette-makers-fuming-cvs-tobacco-ban/ (emphasis added)

Perhaps that story started out as something other than what it ended up as? Or it's just another example of the sloppy "excellence in journalism" we have all come to expect. Meh.

Nice to see Julie and CASSA get a public mention, other than that nothing profound in that blurb. (See "excellence in journalism"..)

Also Greg Conley (formerly of CASAA) & his AVA got a mention too. :)
 

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When I called Walgreens about transferring my prescriptions I told the pharmacist why I was doing it, citing the fact the e-cigs were what worked and kept me away from relapsing, and "all that" BP stuff never did. The pharmacist only had one thing to say about that: "Whatever works."

I like the attitude over there at Walgreens much better. :)

(I know I'm gonna catch some flack about changing to another Big Corporate pharmacy, but I move around for extended time frames and I need a chain where I can get refills easily at different locations.)
 
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