is there a possibility that ProVari will be available in VV/VW

[AaronM]

It's neither good now bad, but the ProVari is sold to a different demographic. The vast majority of the devices out there now that appeal to those who are worried about the bells and whistles of there APV. ProVari owners (dare i say lovers) want performance. Different strokes for different folks.

I don't believe that ProVape is resting on their laurels with the ProVari though. I believe they are playing it smart and not rushing it to the market because it is what people want. When they can't get a reliable piece of hardware to the mass market at and attractive price. Look at what happened to the Pioneer Kuro line of televisions. People did not buy them for the bells and whistles, the bought them for performance and paid top dollar. The problem was Pioneer over engineered the blasted things so fast and to a point they could not sell them at an attractive price to entice new buyers and priced themselves out of the market. I hope ProVape is just playing it smarter then Pioneer was. The newest Kuro is over 4 years old at this point... It still produces the best image quality of any HDTV available many would argue even to this day.

We will see a VW ProVari at some point, the only question is when.

 

[Kataphraktos]

I have a friend out in LA who uses crappy disposable e-cigs, and isn't satisfied to the point of using the occasional analog. I am introducing him to better devices.

He is intelligent and can tinker when needed, but I ams till torn between suggesting a simply, easy-to-use device like a Vmod or just getting him straight on a Provari, which requires more time and investment, and some trial-and-error with the juice feeding mechanism. Most people just aren't going to go there.

I am pushing him towards a Provari, but with repeated warnings that he will have to experiment with tanks, attys, etc. to get something that works for him. With a Vmod and a Cisco spec 510 atty, he's good to go.

A VW Provari will sell thousands. A user-friendly Provari-class device has the potential to sell millions. I know such opinions are being directed at those who don't care about ease of use, but if you are running a company, fanboys like us are free marketing. It's the general consumer who will make you filthy rich.

 

[KY_Rob]

I have a friend out in LA who uses crappy disposable e-cigs, and isn't satisfied to the point of using the occasional analog. I am introducing him to better devices.

He is intelligent and can tinker when needed, but I ams till torn between suggesting a simply, easy-to-use device like a Vmod or just getting him straight on a Provari, which requires more time and investment, and some trial-and-error with the juice feeding mechanism. Most people just aren't going to go there.

I am pushing him towards a Provari, but with repeated warnings that he will have to experiment with tanks, attys, etc. to get something that works for him. With a Vmod and a Cisco spec 510 atty, he's good to go.

A VW Provari will sell thousands. A user-friendly Provari-class device has the potential to sell millions. I know such opinions are being directed at those who don't care about ease of use, but if you are running a company, fanboys like us are free marketing. It's the general consumer who will make you filthy rich.

You know, you're absolutely correct Kataphraktos. It's DOES have that big of a potential, and perhaps that's ProVapes real issue. How do you manage a supply chain and maintain quality that starts becoming apple-like because of shear volume?

 

[kabonk]

I wish they would it would make me buy another provari

 

[Lavaca5]

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I'm pretty indifferent to the VV vs. VW issue. What I would love to see on the Provari, and what would easily entice me to buy another one, is a 5 amp switch. And maybe the option of a flat top cap.

 

[Harplayr]

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I'm pretty indifferent to the VV vs. VW issue. What I would love to see on the Provari, and what would easily entice me to buy another one, is a 5 amp switch. And maybe the option of a flat top cap.

I would add an ego thread option to that wish list so I can throw away the 510-ego adaptor.

 

[Kataphraktos]

You know, you're absolutely correct Kataphraktos. It's DOES have that big of a potential, and perhaps that's ProVapes real issue. How do you manage a supply chain and maintain quality that starts becoming apple-like because of shear volume?

Oh, I agree. I imagine Provape would need to be bought out by a firm with much deeper pockets to go this route. And the best way to get bought out, and in the process be made handsomely rich, is to create this killer product.

 

[Harplayr]

Oh, I agree. I imagine Provape would need to be bought out by a firm with much deeper pockets to go this route. And the best way to get bought out, and in the process be made handsomely rich, is to create this killer product.

And a buyout would most likely be the end of Provape as we know it. The new owners with their army of bean counters interested in ROI and mass production would undoubtedly cut corners.

 

[KY_Rob]

Oh, I agree. I imagine Provape would need to be bought out by a firm with much deeper pockets to go this route. And the best way to get bought out, and in the process be made handsomely rich, is to create this killer product.

My biggest concern is the ProVari would loose its "soul"...farm it all out to China, start having QC problems, cost-point versioning...the more I think about it, the more I don't want things to change

 

[Odysseus]

My biggest concern is the ProVari would loose its "soul"...farm it all out to China, start having QC problems, cost-point versioning...the more I think about it, the more I don't want things to change

China’s biggest pork producer, seeking plentiful supplies and technical expertise, has agreed to buy Smithfield Foods, the 87-year-old Virginia-based meat giant with brands like Armour and Farmland, for $4.7 billion in cash.

What's next? Joytech buys Provape?

As long as money and power are more highly valued than anything else, the quality of everything will continue to decline. Business exist for one purpose and one purpose only, that is to make money. And, as much of it as possible. Wouldn't it be easier for a large producer to buyout Provape rather than attempt to compete with it? Also, at what point does a producer stop attempting to improve their products and move toward maximizing profit by trying to produce the same product more inexpensively? It seems modern business practices are partially responsible for the attraction to high quality small batch products as well as the seemingly near certainty of their eventual demise.

Better buy a couple more Provari now.

 

[gorman]

Before having a VW device, I thought much the same as you. Upon playing around with VW I quickly learned that while it's amazing in theory, all the other factors that make a great vape rendered it not much better (if at all) than a good VV device. I still had to tweak it to get my vape right.

This assumes slight variations of resistance in whatever you attach to it. If you go from, say, 1.5 to 2.5, it's more than "tweaking". It's needing to adjust not to ruin an atom, cartom, whatever. Plus the fact that resistance does fluctuate in some occasions.

I get it that ProVape still makes the best product out there. But that's no excuse not to keep on innovating and making their product better from time to time. If and when they'll see a dip in their sales, I'd bet good money that they'll come out with VW or something else to keep them ahead of competition.

 

[Harplayr]

This assumes slight variations of resistance in whatever you attach to it. If you go from, say, 1.5 to 2.5, it's more than "tweaking". It's needing to adjust not to ruin an atom, cartom, whatever. Plus the fact that resistance does fluctuate in some occasions.

I'll concede that sometimes when going from devices with wildly varying resistances the voltage will need to be adjusted rather than tweaked. It may be a big difference to you, but to me a button press is a button press and I need to press said button when changing carto's or juice to adjust my vape when in VV mode and when in VW mode. While 5 watts is 5 watts, 5 watts may be great for my snickerdoodle but not for my Boba's. Still gotta press those dang buttons to get it right.

I get it that ProVape still makes the best product out there. But that's no excuse not to keep on innovating and making their product better from time to time. If and when they'll see a dip in their sales, I'd bet good money that they'll come out with VW or something else to keep them ahead of competition.

True. No matter what the product, a company can't sit still forever and stay on top.

 

[KY_Rob]

As long as money and power are more highly valued than anything else, the quality of everything will continue to decline. Business exist for one purpose and one purpose only, that is to make money.

You've hit the proverbial nail on the head. All that really seems matter anymore is the money.

Thank you, Arthur Anderson.

 

[ColinD]

I believe there is an additional point to be made here. The market is divided into VV/VW mods and mech mods. The reason people buy mech mods is so that they can build coils below 1.2 ohms. The current VV/VW circuitry will not fire below this figure.

The holy grail is a Provari with added VW that fires @ 0.8 ohms with safety. Then they clean up the market entirely at the upper and mid levels. I think the "gangstas" out there using sub 0.8 ohm coils will always use mech mods and there will always be people buying cheaper Chinese mods but for Provape the ultimate development would be a VV/VW mod that allows lower Ohms.

If you are an avid vaper you WILL drip at some point. I spent my first 8 months thinking "dripping" what an entirely cumbersome, silly way to vape - until I tried it. It just blows you away and there is nothing comparable tank wise.

I love my Provari and I have a Roller for dripping. Would be great to have one mod that was suitable for both.

 

[Baditude]

If you are an avid vaper you WILL drip at some point. I spent my first 8 months thinking "dripping" what an entirely cumbersome, silly way to vape - until I tried it. It just blows you away and there is nothing comparable tank wise.

I love my Provari and I have a Roller for dripping. Would be great to have one mod that was suitable for both.

Have you looked into the bottom feeder box bods? Combine the flavor of dripping with the convenience of a tank and you have a bottom feeder. The Reo even has a variable voltage model.

 

[ColinD]

Not yet Bad Now I know the next stage of evolution Thanks for the tip.

Have you looked into the bottom feeder box bods? Combine the flavor of dripping with the convenience of a tank and you have a bottom feeder. The Reo even has a variable voltage model.

 

[DPLongo22]

I change the voltage on my VV's, and I change the wattage on my VW's. I, personally, have been unable to identify any significant difference between the two (and here come the flamers!).

The word the matters, in this equation, is "Variable".

Sez me.

 

[BigBaby]

I would add an ego thread option to that wish list so I can throw away the 510-ego adaptor.

It will be a cold day in hell when we see Provape put ego threads on a Provari...

 

[tnt56]

Not yet Bad Now I know the next stage of evolution Thanks for the tip.

I comment on the Reo. I got the Reo Grand with a reomizer bottom feed atty. Micro wick and sterile cotton at 1.4 ohms is vaping bliss with my HHV Army juice. Not really interested in the Reo VV at this time. I like my one battery and simple no electrical parts. I can wash this thing in the sink and not have a problem. A TRUE mechanical.

 

[CandyTX]

I have been using my Provari for a month now and the eVic for just a few days... I really do like the VW of the eVic, but I still favor the Provari because it's just a solid device - if they came out with one that did both (or maybe updates to the one I have - even better!) then I'd be a true diehard fangirl.