Is your e juice vendor safe and clean?

[genelman]

This issue been bugging me since I started vaping, how can someone know if their favorite vendor using clean equipments? there are no regulations whatsoever, and even this self police system is not that effective, lots of people found pets waste and byproduct stuck on the juice bottle and even inside the bottle (they were from reputable vendors). I know that some people will try to compare juice shops to restaurants claiming that some level of trust must be acquired, However, I do not trust the restaurants per se, I trust the different government bodies that regulate the restaurant and gave it its rating. JC might be the only exception although I have some doubts as well, JC is self inspected and am not sure if an unbiased entity conduct their inspection. the thing is I tried their juices, I forced my self to like the juice but I couldn't, I spent a lot of money and bought both lines of their juices but I did not find my favorite.

another issue, what about the waste that vendors produce, not one vendor provided data for how much byproduct is produced nor are the relative toxicities of those products discussed. all that are pushing me to pray for government interference, probably there will be more disadvantages than advantages of this interference.

I love vaping and I was really thinking about DIY but I can not risk it, I have three kids still under 7 years old and I just can not allow them to be exposed to harmful substance like Nicotine. as you can see, this is my dilemma and I spent lots of time thinking about it, so far the only solution I can think of is to quit vaping which I don't like.


I would love to read your comments. Please share your thoughts.

 

[Jimi D.]

This is why I DIY!

 

[genelman]

This is why I DIY!

Do you have kids? pets?

 

[Cookster]

This is also one of the main reasons I DIY. I have kids and pets, so you'll need a dedicated space and a lock box of some sort. Plus, you don't need to get 100mg nic, 24/36mg may cost a little more, but is much safer to handle.

 

[Ctor]

I'll trust vendors way before I trust our government.

Restaurant inspections are a joke. Throw a few bucks in the right direction and see how fast the satisfactory inspection certs fly.

 

[genelman]

This is also one of the main reasons I DIY. I have kids and pets, so you'll need a dedicated space and a lock box of some sort. Plus, you don't need to get 100mg nic, 24/36mg may cost a little more, but is much safer to handle.

My youngest daughter will turn an empty room into a mess, and my son will try to make a super elixir to turn him into spiderman. I just can not risk it, I am away from home most of the time.

 

[awsum140]

No offense intended, but if you trust the "government" you are trusting an entity that is probably the most untrustworthy. I say that as a former restaurant owner so I do have some experience with government inspections. If you want to be totally safe DIY, but then you have to trust the raw materials suppliers instead. As far as "waste" products, given that the ingredients are allegedly food grade liquids normal sewage treatment should handle them with no problem.

 

[dragonbone]

It's a horrible thought, and I try to block it from my mind... ostrich style hehe... Some fat, stinky, unwashed hillbilly scratching his bare hairy chest and fixing juices in an unclean place with dirty hands and long black fingernails etc. I doubt that is the scenario at all lol, but kind of a nightmarish thought, (that insists on popping in my head) that I try hard not to focus on.
I am trying to move over completely to DIY, but my juices unfortunately can't compare with store bought... I have 3 recipes that work well, but I am in love with some bought juices too.

What to do, what to do???

 

[Xaiver]

The restaurant isn't a very good comparison though. You may feel safer because the government bodies exist, but they don't really do all that much..or should I say, often.

I work in a restaurant, and they get by with some things that make me cringe. Why? Because the department of health doesn't just pop in, they call ahead and let you know they're coming. And then when they do show up, sometimes they don't want to do all the paperwork that writing up something might go through, and checks and balances and all of that jazz.

Anyhow, I've got a 6month old, and all of my DIY stuf is locked in a giant cabinet. I use 36mg nic base and cut it down to 10mg. At 36mg, as long as the kids aren't spilled on, you're fine.

I think the main point is not to let them drink your liquids, or get any on their skin. The air build-up from the nicotine at a lower level doesn't pose much of a threat as long as you're paying attention to it. I've spilled 36mg all over myself (well...not all over, but significantly) and washed my hands as soon as I could, and it wasn't a big deal.

 

[Flurfel]

My youngest daughter will turn an empty room into a mess, and my son will try to make a super elixir to turn him into spiderman. I just can not risk it, I am away from home most of the time.

Only you can make that decision. I will saythat going back to smoking is not healthy for them either. Do you keep bleach in the house? Comet? Drano? I am sure you have other poisons in your home right now. Do you take steps to keep these from your kids? Of course you do, this is no different.


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[Out Of The Ashes]

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[Rader2146]

Government involment is the last thing we should want. Once they get their foot in the door, next thing you know we're paying $50 for an eGo batt and >$1/ml for the cheap juice. Reputation is everything and it takes a long time of producing quality products to build a good reputation. Government inspection and rating is only a snapshot of how an entity performed during a very narrow time period. Wish I could count how many times I walked it to an "A" rated fast food joint and thought "wow, the standard must be pretty lax....."

As for DIY, you still have the same hazardous chemicals in premixed juice that you buy from vendors. The preccausions that you should be taking for the juice you have no are no different than the preccausions you would need to take for DIY supplies. Only thing different is you might need a larger storage space.

 

[ohai]

If you keep eliquids in a home with kids and pets (which I do), you need to keep them locked up, without question. Over the counter drugs like Tylenol and aspirin can kill small children, and many prescription drugs can too, so should be kept in a locked medicine cabinet. You also need to keep your laundry detergent, bleach, ammonia and drain cleaner and any pesticides out of their reach. Don't let them access the gasoline in your car, either, and for god's sake, keep them away from the Starbucks.

If you really don't trust the vendors you buy from not to poison you, you do have choices- DIY doesn't have to include materials that are significantly more dangerous than the prepared eliquid you already have. I know people who vape 36mg eliquid- using it as an additive is as safe as you yourself make it. Just lock it up, like any other potentially dangerous chemical you keep in your house.

As for me, I'll keep trusting the hairy guy with the pack of feral dogs wrestling over a turkey carcass under the mixing table. He makes real good juice.

 

[DaveP]

You can never know about food or other consumables, including juices that you vape. There's some solace in knowing that nic kills larger organisms such as insects and probably isn't a good medium for growing bacterial cultures. I don't worry much about bacteria and viruses in my e-juice, but I'd hate to know someone sneezed in the batch before my bottle was drawn.

 

[YorkieGirl1]

This issue been bugging me since I started vaping, how can someone know if their favorite vendor using clean equipments? there are no regulations whatsoever, and even this self police system is not that effective, lots of people found pets waste and byproduct stuck on the juice bottle and even inside the bottle (they were from reputable vendors)..

EWWWWW For real???? I must have missed this one??? How on earth could pet waste be on a juice bottle? I cant even imagine!!! WOW!

 

[DaveP]

EWWWWW For real???? I must have missed this one??? How on earth could pet waste be on a juice bottle? I cant even imagine!!! WOW!

Pet the dog, pick up a bottle and fill the next order ... it could happen. "Sparky, get off that box of empty bottles and go sleep in your bed!"


I'm sure some pet hair can float around in the breeze from a fan and find its way into an uncovered batch of juice. I always hold mine up to the light when it arrives and look for clarity and floaters .

It's just a habit. I've never found anything in my juice in over two years of vaping.

 

[genelman]

EWWWWW For real???? I must have missed this one??? How on earth could pet waste be on a juice bottle? I cant even imagine!!! WOW!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...pet-hair-sticking-out-label-juice-bottle.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...scussion/293944-hair-inside-juice-bottle.html

 

[tammyh]

I won't mention the vendor but I found a roach leg in one of my bottles of juice. Actually it was in there after I filled a tank so it could have been in a cartomizer. I find that a little less realistic though considering the cartos are sealed. I've never had roaches in my house so it didn't come from here.

 

[genelman]

I won't mention the vendor but I found a roach leg in one of my bottles of juice.

here you go, now thats tops them all. you know what! you should make a negative review of the vendor in the Reviews of Suppliers - Negative

 

[hitman4274]

Only you can make that decision. I will saythat going back to smoking is not healthy for them either. Do you keep bleach in the house? Comet? Drano? I am sure you have other poisons in your home right now. Do you take steps to keep these from your kids? Of course you do, this is no different.


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+1..... Most common cleaners are worse off than nicotine imo. I have small animals like reptiles and ferrets. Im sure my diy stuff would cause a lot of damage if one of my pets managed to get into it somehow. I don't think they will manage to unlock and unlatch my tool box tho. But its normal to take precautions when using anything of a "harmful" nature. There is a balancing act, and I assure you the government you speak of... Yea wouldn't be a good idea to get them involved. All the government cares about is money. Vendors should be self regulated...

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