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Idaholandho

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Need help regarding wicking problems after refilling Ithaka.
I'm using double coil X configuration with 3mm fiber, 50:50 juice with basic feeding closed.
I've tried closing the top nut in every possible way with LC fully closed and still have wicking issues.
Before this juice I was using pure VG juice with no problems even though the setup is the same.
What is the best way to close the top nut for the right pressure to build up in the tank?

You can try and close the ring down a bit and taking a couple hard pulls to create pressure via suction.
I always turn my GG/Ithakas upside down for a few seconds and back upright after build or filling. Not sure if this helps but, I always see air bubbles trailing out of the feeder.
I do this with all my GG atty's. Habit now and maybe its me but, I dont exp wicking issues with 25/75 or 50/50. GL
 

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Hi guys,

I have just owned an Ithaka and have no trouble setting it so far. But i need some advise on my setup.

I have prior to my ithaka vaped exclusively on drippers eg. eBaron, Killer, Igo etc. and carto tank prior to that. I dont like genny because it spills and leaks. After 3 years of vaping i am down to 6mg and now 12mg seemed harsh to me (throat hit). I vape only fruity juices now. Normally my preferred setting is around 1.2 ohm to 1.8 ohm depending on the tank and juice I used. If i want to play around with vapor I have tanks set up with dual coils and 0.4-0.6 ohm.

I have now an Ithaka set up with dual coil @1.0 ohm. It works as expected, no issue but only that the throat hit is VERY STRONG to me with my normal 6mg juices. Is this normal for this type of tank? Please advise, thanks.
 

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Hi guys,

I have just owned an Ithaka and have no trouble setting it so far. But i need some advise on my setup.

I have prior to my ithaka vaped exclusively on drippers eg. eBaron, Killer, Igo etc. and carto tank prior to that. I dont like genny because it spills and leaks. After 3 years of vaping i am down to 6mg and now 12mg seemed harsh to me (throat hit). I vape only fruity juices now. Normally my preferred setting is around 1.2 ohm to 1.8 ohm depending on the tank and juice I used. If i want to play around with vapor I have tanks set up with dual coils and 0.4-0.6 ohm.

I have now an Ithaka set up with dual coil @1.0 ohm. It works as expected, no issue but only that the throat hit is VERY STRONG to me with my normal 6mg juices. Is this normal for this type of tank? Please advise, thanks.

it is normal since you are getting double the nicotine from one drag theoretically. Just lower your nicotine and experiment.
 

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Mine is X configuration with extra strand in between for wicking.

Surprised, as drippers tend to hit hot and hard also. What % PG/VG do you use? Are you experiencing plenty of vapor or just mediocre vapor? Are you using eko or silica? Last question, Do you lung or mouth hit(My Ithakas are one of the only atty's that I dont lung with 1.8 nic)?
 

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Surprised, as drippers tend to hit hot and hard also. What % PG/VG do you use? Are you experiencing plenty of vapor or just mediocre vapor? Are you using eko or silica? Last question, Do you lung or mouth hit(My Ithakas are one of the only atty's that I dont lung with 1.8 nic)?

Idaho i am assuming, it is the first time he's trying duals. dripper hit hard but compared to singles.
 

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Surprised, as drippers tend to hit hot and hard also. What % PG/VG do you use? Are you experiencing plenty of vapor or just mediocre vapor? Are you using eko or silica? Last question, Do you lung or mouth hit(My Ithakas are one of the only atty's that I dont lung with 1.8 nic)?

Basically, I have 2 sets of dripper; one for casual vaping meant for enjoying the flavor. This will be my eBaron normally set at 1.5 ohm, single coil. Another sets would be my Nimbus; dual air hole (2mm) with dual or quad coil at 0.4-0.6 ohm solely for enjoying cloud (theyre more like cloud than vapor with this setup). For the Nimbus, i will normally use 50-50 Pinoy juices with 0 nic and this will always be lung inhale. For normal vaping, my staple will be Mr E-Liquid 67-33 juices nowadays at 6mg.
 

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2x 3mm holes? That seems enormous. I still don't quite understand your issue with the air flow - I take giant lung-filling hits, I don't suck it into my mouth first, it all goes right into my lungs - I only need to hold the button down for maybe 3-5 seconds - a lot like taking a drag of an analog.

Maybe you're just so used to these huge holes now it feels constricting?

My typical setup is .6ohm dual coils on 3mm silica (or lately, cotton hemp yarn)

2x 2.5 - 3mm holes is sort of standard around here in socal at least... i got to a lot of vape shops in orange county, ca and in the inland empire. Most people running dual coils at around .4 - .8ohms are using the 3/32 - 1/8 size bits to knock out their holes. Review MCVapes youtube channel about resistance + airflow, you'll see what im talking about. Initially I was like you, I would drill out the holes slightly larger than stock, I thought everything was working at maximum efficiency.

Then, after watching McVape's Airflow & Resistance video, I decided to pull out one of my dirt cheap atty's, my IGO-W. Which I love. After drilling the 2 holes out to 3/32, my vapor production + nicotine delivery was FAR better. Then I up'ed it even more by going to McVape's preferred size of 2 holes @ 1/8 (3mm) basically like sucking through a straw, which for direct lung hits is amazing. Don't knock it till you rock it. I was holding down my switch for 3 - 5 seconds, now it's literally 1 second, one-one thousand - exhale. I guess the answer is no, there's no way to expand the airhole unless I drill through the center connection pin.

Too bad, maybe nextgen Ithaka can go a little bigger. I don't see any downside to offering a bigger airhole for that small percentage of people out there like me, seeing how if you don't like it, you can simply tighten it up. With new atomizers hitting the market like the Kraken & the Omega, you can see by the size of these airholes, there's obviously a demand for a more airy draw.

Kraken Genesis airflow
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Omega Airflow
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Sorry to get off topic, I realize this is the official Ithaka page, but for $200.00 for a nice atomizer, I wanted to reach out to the awesome community and see if people had ideas. I'm going to try drilling out some additional airholes. Once I finish it - I will post pictures for all the other vapers who prefer an airy draw like myself.

Thanks all! and Thanks Imeo for making a kickass device.
 
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Very interesting! I would indeed love to try a large air hole, I guess I just never craved anything better than what I'm using now. It would be interesting to see an adjustable airflow ring that could go very large like you're talking about!
I don't really have anything other than Ody Penny and Ithaka to try this on, and there's no way I'm drilling holes in those babies, but one day I'd love to try it. Thanks for the info.
 

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I refuse to drill air holes larger in any set up, especially GG. I find very little reason if any. My OCD would not permit me to mod one of Imeo's as they are tried and tested true. If set up correctly no additional amount of air would make any difference to me. I enjoy airy draws and I have no issue with stock airflow. :)
 

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I clean with soupersounds all GG parts aal. I dont send them to customers as they come from machine shop, its not good at all to vape machine oil.
I haven't cleaned it. I know with Kayfun and other atomizers if you don't clean it gives weird taste, but with Ithaka i didn't. But if you don't want to risk it, some soap and rinse with water should do the trick. Maybe mine were extra clean.
 

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big air holes are not good for people that dont inhale direct in lungs pho. If hole is large then you will not produce any smoke:)
2x 2.5 - 3mm holes is sort of standard around here in socal at least... i got to a lot of vape shops in orange county, ca and in the inland empire. Most people running dual coils at around .4 - .8ohms are using the 3/32 - 1/8 size bits to knock out their holes. Review MCVapes youtube channel about resistance + airflow, you'll see what im talking about. Initially I was like you, I would drill out the holes slightly larger than stock, I thought everything was working at maximum efficiency.

Then, after watching McVape's Airflow & Resistance video, I decided to pull out one of my dirt cheap atty's, my IGO-W. Which I love. After drilling the 2 holes out to 3/32, my vapor production + nicotine delivery was FAR better. Then I up'ed it even more by going to McVape's preferred size of 2 holes @ 1/8 (3mm) basically like sucking through a straw, which for direct lung hits is amazing. Don't knock it till you rock it. I was holding down my switch for 3 - 5 seconds, now it's literally 1 second, one-one thousand - exhale. I guess the answer is no, there's no way to expand the airhole unless I drill through the center connection pin.

Too bad, maybe nextgen Ithaka can go a little bigger. I don't see any downside to offering a bigger airhole for that small percentage of people out there like me, seeing how if you don't like it, you can simply tighten it up. With new atomizers hitting the market like the Kraken & the Omega, you can see by the size of these airholes, there's obviously a demand for a more airy draw.

Kraken Genesis airflow
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Omega Airflow
View attachment 248030

Sorry to get off topic, I realize this is the official Ithaka page, but for $200.00 for a nice atomizer, I wanted to reach out to the awesome community and see if people had ideas. I'm going to try drilling out some additional airholes. Once I finish it - I will post pictures for all the other vapers who prefer an airy draw like myself.

Thanks all! and Thanks Imeo for making a kickass device.
 

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I refuse to drill air holes larger in any set up, especially GG. I find very little reason if any. My OCD would not permit me to mod one of Imeo's as they are tried and tested true. If set up correctly no additional amount of air would make any difference to me. I enjoy airy draws and I have no issue with stock airflow. :)

Well like I said, it's one of those things that you truley have to try it, before you deny it. To refuse to try and do something as simple as increasing the airflow is pretty hard-headed imo. But hey - if your preferred vape is in the 1.0ohm to 2.0ohm range - then you're right, there's no need for you to ever try it. It's for when you go below 1.0ohm. If you run duals under 1.0ohm you're foolish not to try it on a cheap little RDA.

Resistance + Airflow - what you need to know...
Resistance & Air Flow - YouTube

That's why i decided to first drill out holes on a cheap little IGO-W, $20.00 dripping atomizer, I figured if I messed it up, no biggy.

Let me reiterate something that is also tested and true - if you are running dual coils in the .4 - .8 range - you will benefit greatly from larger airholes than the stock size ones in the ithaka. There's an absolute benefit for vapor production when running it at that level of resistance.

But if you're running dual 2.0 ready wires, coming out to 1.0 ohm total - then just like you said, stick with the tested and true stock sized airholes, they're perfect for you. Mark my words, you're going to see more and more genesis style atty's and RDA's coming out with larger Airflow holes. Because if you're the manufacturer...why wouldn't you offer a bigger hole? There's absolutely no downside. If you don't like it - close that hole up and go to the smaller ones...

But you're just dead wrong if you believe there's no advantage to 2 holes @ 2mm - 3mm for dual coils running at .4 - .8ohms. If you're curious, try it - and thank me later. It's not for everyone - I just wondered if there were any sub-1.0ohm vapers out there like myself that have tried expanding the airholes on the Ithaka. I am going to experiment drilling out some extra airflow (somehow) into my ithaka, and if I mess up, it's a $200.00 "bad decision" but hey...someone's gotta try it, and I'll be the first space monkey! :2cool:

Thanks to all who gave me advice! I really appreciate the community's input on this one!
 

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Imeo - I mentioned that in my post - my post is for direct lung hitters...

Out here in the socal market - there are a ton of lung hitters like myself, people experimenting - this is NOT for the mouth hitters out there!~

Just to clarify.... but your device wasn't designed for just mouth hitters right? I assume you also took direct lung hitters into consideration too.
 
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