Well I'm going to be able to join the Provari club as soon as I get home and get mine(drive otr)
It's interesting that some people honestly think "high end" mod prices are justifiable.
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Agreed. And you actually brought up a good point & one I use in making decisions about things that cost larger amounts of money.
If something does break being able to get it fixed without a bunch of trouble makes it worth a bit more to me than something I will either have to fix myself or replace.
.....um well I never wanted to quit smoking so I guess for me that would be a no.
edit: jk & sorry to ruin your point.
Some people spend .... loads of money on paintings that look like my 4 year old son picked up random bottles of paint and launched them at the canvas.
Some people spends hundreds and even thousands on purses from a company created by some dead woman named Coco.
The buyer decides what something is worth.
Some people spends hundreds and even thousands on purses from a company created by some dead woman named Coco.
The buyer decides what something is worth.
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Me too. I'm wondering what this person is doing that they only manage to get an eGo battery to last all of 6 weeks average. Even for Joyetech clones that's just largely... wrong.
And the whole high/main street is about seeing what she did and creating something similar at a price lots of people can afford.
REALLY 6 weeks!
Okay I vape like a fiend, but when my 18650' are lasting 2.5 days in my Provari... Whoo Hooo!
I mean the 232' stacked in my V3, new batts. lasted about half a day!
6 weeks, ....really.....must be a cig a day x-smoker!
Vape the Blue Juice and Free Your Mind...........
Why yes, yes I do. And that's still the point of why I vape. But considering some of the devices people are using and what they are trying to generate with them it almost appears they are going full circle right back to... something that doesn't look all that much like really want to quit... something. I mean, there's vaping to quit smoking and then there seems to be "what the hell is that?"
Why yes, yes I do. And that's still the point of why I vape. But considering some of the devices people are using and what they are trying to generate with them it almost appears they are going full circle right back to... something that doesn't look all that much like really want to quit... something. I mean, there's vaping to quit smoking and then there seems to be "what the hell is that?"
Do I wish I could get a quality mod for less than 50$ you bet. But what dose 50$ buy anymore? I cant fill my gas tank in my truck for that. I cant buy a weeks worth of grocery's.
IMO 150- 200$ for a well made mod that will last years is not a bad deal. I dont think many of these moders are living in mansions and riding in Limos.
I do think they are people just like you and I who are trying to make a living. I chose to support them. I dont feel much connected to a factory owner in China who pays little and produces low quality goods.
I started vaping to quit smoking. I continue to vape because I enjoy it. Vaping today has very little to do with why I started.
IMO 150- 200$ for a well made mod that will last years is not a bad deal. I dont think many of these moders are living in mansions and riding in Limos.
I do think they are people just like you and I who are trying to make a living. I chose to support them. I dont feel much connected to a factory owner in China who pays little and produces low quality goods.
I started vaping to quit smoking. I continue to vape because I enjoy it. Vaping today has very little to do with why I started.
Here's a thought about China not being able to come up with their own devices without something to clone....
They are responsible for the modern e-cig hitting the market. While the *concept* of it was created 50 years ago by Herbert A. Gilbert, it was the Chinese that made it a viable product. So, in terms of gear and especially the liquid we vape, who's cloned who?
Plain and simple... While a person who creates a particular mod should be able to charge more for their particular design and intellectual property. They must realize that China does not recognize intellectual property, and has no problem cloning them. While there might be small inconsistencies, they're good enough for people to justify the price. As more and more mods are made, and more options become available, mod creators have even less of a leg to stand on with their prices. Modders will not completely disappear either. The road has been paved, and there will always be someone eager to create a mod, release it to the market, and leave their mark on the industry. And certain people will still buy the "real" thing. No different than any other industry that China clones items of.
That's just my two cents...
I can't help but wonder why so many are critical of the devices of others. I mean, whatever makes us happy and does the job, right?
People have different values and interests and it's nobody else's business.
While someone else's setup or high end device isn't to MY personal taste, I would find it rude to say so in a condescending manner and stir up crap. I don't want people judging ME so why would I judge THEM?
People have different values and interests and it's nobody else's business.
While someone else's setup or high end device isn't to MY personal taste, I would find it rude to say so in a condescending manner and stir up crap. I don't want people judging ME so why would I judge THEM?
100% agreed! In the end I have respect for every person in this forum they have or are trying to whip a very nasty habit.
I think the sentiment and passionate responses elicited by some isn't as much about what they enjoy vaping, whether it be 10 or 500 bucks, as it is the long term effect cloning may have on the industry. I'm all about "to each his own" right up until it affects MY ability to get something I want.
By that, I mean to say that if cloning, on the scale and speed it seems to be happening now, starts(who says it hasn't?) to make people think twice about investing the time and energy into designing something new and innovative for fear of rapid cloning ruining their ability to make a living..... THEN it affects me. It becomes something more than taking a chance on a cheaper product, and that is where this whole diffusion of responsibility goes.
Sure, today, I can go buy the original or the clone if I so please, and the world will spin as usual. The problem arises when maybe in a year Imeo, Atmystique, Armomixani, etc. tone back their modding because they can't make the money they used to. I'm not saying that is absolutely the end result of what's going on right now, but I think that taking the "to each his own" attitude could have consequences in the future.
Awesome post! But it didn't make me think about the pricing of mods. It made me wonder why AR15's are so expensive and why can't we get them as prizes in the bottom of cereal boxes. Think of that Kellogg promotion! "Kids, Collect all five pieces and build yourself a Glock!" If guns were cheaper, everyone would have one and be packing so the next time some jack-stick decided to open up on a crowd, the crowd would just put him down - fill him with enough holes to make him look like an old dried up hornet's nest when the body has dried. If we're lucky, they might even keep going and shoot any slow witted dingle-berry in the mall with his pants worn lower than his waist and a sticker still on his LIDZ cap worn consciously cocked to the side. (Can you imagine how our national aptitude test scores would sky rocket?)
I have no problem with the innovator of somehting charging whatever price he or she thinks is fitting.
What I do have a problem with is the attitude of some vapers that makes people who cannot afford expensive mods feel like 3rd class citizens. And the reverse for that matter. If someone CAN afford such a device more power to em I say. No reason to be nasty to each other we are all vapers.
What I do have a problem with is the attitude of some vapers that makes people who cannot afford expensive mods feel like 3rd class citizens. And the reverse for that matter. If someone CAN afford such a device more power to em I say. No reason to be nasty to each other we are all vapers.
You're right. it's a good thing I live inside a brass refinery with a CNC machine.
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