It's these kind of people that are going to ruin it for all of us...
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It's so close to some facebook little icon that I'm afraid to place my fat finger over there on the tablet....
until I saw it was you. Replace "social norms" with "laws" and I will fully agree. 'Cause on the north side of this continent there's no independent evolution of them.
You do understand WHY we see the vapor right?
Yup, sure do. Just commenting that although you can't see it exhaled germs/microbes/etc are still there. In fact, most things you need worry about in your food source are within the food itself.
I'm not advocating blowing clouds in a restaurant, grocery store or anywhere else for that matter (I don't however believe that is vapings biggest issue), just saying that someone's vapor settling on my food is the least of my worries.
Of course not! It was a nice mellow fog and went perfectly with the Jimi Hendrix Purple Haze my partner had cranked to 11. Vaping isn't smoking so there is no need not to vape wherever and whenever you like and that's an important point we need to get across to everyone all the time so they don't lump us in with those inconsiderate, selfish smokers!
The best one ever was when we were transporting this lady who was delivering a baby. No matter how much I told her "Just keep your legs together and hold the kid in, we'll be there soon" she wouldn't listen. So she was crowning away and I get down by her legs to help her and she's breathing and breathing and I stuck my head under her skirt and took a huge inhale and filled the skirt with vapor and pulled my head out. She looks down and sees all this mushroom cloud of vapor emitting from her skirt and I said "Hey look! You are having Satan's baby! Muhahahahahaha!" I'll tell you, women without an epidural have no sense of humor. She kicked me in the face.
yes we do know. no reported or suspected cases reported so far.
not one. not even an ANTZ science hack job.
mike
I would be bothered by the clouds - I have a cigalike (Volt) that I vape in the stores - I do not hide it, but I also respect the people in the store enough not to blow it in their face or to make them walk through clouds. Toning it down when in public buildings should be a no brainer...
I have been challenged even with me just using my small PV (I also have a small mech mod I use in public), but most stores just ignore me since I am not bothering other customers - blowing clouds will only rush management to pushing an absolute policy of no vaping while on the premises.
I just want to add that here in the town I live in now the board of healthy has restricted ecigs severely. Use in any establishment is punishable by a fine. Even the vape shops can't vape inside. You must be 21 years old to purchase them and that goes for real cigs also. I carry my mods with me very where but if I was to vape in a store and get caught I face getting thrown out/banned and fined! But nonetheless I'm ok with these rules.
Saugus Ma. 01906
Saugus Ma. 01906
It does matter. It does matter very much.
It is much easier to pass legislation if public is "ready" for it. Blowing clouds in stores is equal to preparation of public for legislation.
Knowing them, I would say that if that cloudy guy didn't exist for real, they would pay a shill to do it instead.
Most wars were started with a false flag ops.
Not even close.
Exercising rights is the only way to keep them.
However courteous vaping will only help our cause.
Upcoming bans have nothing to do with vapers or health or public perception.
It's all about states losing monies from BIg Tobacco settlements.
They cant afford for us to stop buying ciggies, they have spent the funds before they received them.
Why do you think they push such blatant propaganda programs?
There are a lot of people who never smoked and know nothing about vaping. They have no clue about pg/vg ratios, nicotine concentration by volume, and certainly not Ohm's Law. They went to the store to buy toilet paper or a cantaloupe or dog food. Why exactly should they have to walk around the corner in a public building and get hit in the face with a cloud of vanilla cherry tobacco unicorn vomit? I love vaping and I blow clouds, but ffs just a little personal respect and consideration for those around you goes a long way.
I don't vape at all inside restaurants. I will occasionally take a quick puff in stores but not around others, and I do the quick 'high pressure' exhale to rapidly disperse the vapor. When I smoked if someone was coming down the sidewalk toward me I would palm the smoke, or switch hands, and hold off taking a drag until they passed me. If there were people around with children I would move away before smoking. It's just being a considerate person. For those who say they can vape wherever and whenever they want, I have a question... Is it so difficult to delay your own personal gratification that you have to impose what you want on everyone around you regardless of what they want?
I don't vape at all inside restaurants. I will occasionally take a quick puff in stores but not around others, and I do the quick 'high pressure' exhale to rapidly disperse the vapor. When I smoked if someone was coming down the sidewalk toward me I would palm the smoke, or switch hands, and hold off taking a drag until they passed me. If there were people around with children I would move away before smoking. It's just being a considerate person. For those who say they can vape wherever and whenever they want, I have a question... Is it so difficult to delay your own personal gratification that you have to impose what you want on everyone around you regardless of what they want?
I was in Walmart the other day and came across the same scenario. A young hipster dude and his girlfriend were perusing the infant section and the guy takes a big drag on his mod and blows a big cloud. I turn to my daughter and tell her it's people like that who will ruin it for the rest of us. Honestly, the timing is just off for these people to be doing this, by like a decade. It's going to take a long time for people to accept vaping in public places, maybe not a decade but not anytime soon. Can't these vapers just hold off till the dust has settled? My opinion is that it's not wrong but it's very selfish to be doing it at this point in time with all the crap going on on the Federal and state levels, it screws over the rest of us who try to act with some semblance of respect for those who don't get it yet.
Fast way to put these shops out of business. If I'm buying a juice from a B&M & can't vape it in the store to know if I'd even like it then my business would go elsewhere. That's a shame though for the person trying to earn a living. Not a win/win at all.I just want to add that here in the town I live in now the board of healthy has restricted ecigs severely. Use in any establishment is punishable by a fine. Even the vape shops can't vape inside. You must be 21 years old to purchase them and that goes for real cigs also. I carry my mods with me very where but if I was to vape in a store and get caught I face getting thrown out/banned and fined! But nonetheless I'm ok with these rules.
Saugus Ma. 01906
But this speaks again like everyone (the public) knows about this. Every single person I know who vapes has never heard of ECF so all this legislation talk happens here. Calls to action happen here. Write your congressman…etc etc happens here. Blah blah blah happens here!
What you all are doing is essentially arguing with each other over our right to vape, how we vape & where we vape but the person(s) who need to know this as well aren't here which makes educating important. Sure- some may not listen but that's par for the course.
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