I've never smoked before in my life. Advice?
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I have read the whole thread,and this is my .02...
We are only vaping because we were KILLING OURSELVES WITH cig's..We dont do this for FUN..we do it the same reason a ...... junky takes methadone,to EASE us off of cigs,and to help the withdrawls..THIS IS NO GAME we are playing..WE hate the fact that we even have to do it.As we would give back EVERY DROP of juice and every penny spent on vaping if we could.
You have perfect lungs,and you want to go and inhale something into them just for a memory??9/10 times the memory is much more pleasurable sometimes than the actual facts ever are...get some incense,an air scent which does the same thing.
As was stated earlier in the thread,even though we vape,we still ,well I still have the craving sometmes for analog,getting the most for your money is what the MOD's are all about as well as doing something to help keep your mind off the fact we arent SMOKING...
I will re-interate,,vaping isnt FUN,any more than going down to the clinic and getting a dose of methadone,ITS ALL WE HAVE and it works for us..
You are going to do what you want,but wise up and dont start..make at least one positive out of this,and sell the kit to someone who SMOKES....THIS has NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING COOL.....
K3vin
We are only vaping because we were KILLING OURSELVES WITH cig's..We dont do this for FUN..we do it the same reason a ...... junky takes methadone,to EASE us off of cigs,and to help the withdrawls..THIS IS NO GAME we are playing..WE hate the fact that we even have to do it.As we would give back EVERY DROP of juice and every penny spent on vaping if we could.
You have perfect lungs,and you want to go and inhale something into them just for a memory??9/10 times the memory is much more pleasurable sometimes than the actual facts ever are...get some incense,an air scent which does the same thing.
As was stated earlier in the thread,even though we vape,we still ,well I still have the craving sometmes for analog,getting the most for your money is what the MOD's are all about as well as doing something to help keep your mind off the fact we arent SMOKING...
I will re-interate,,vaping isnt FUN,any more than going down to the clinic and getting a dose of methadone,ITS ALL WE HAVE and it works for us..
You are going to do what you want,but wise up and dont start..make at least one positive out of this,and sell the kit to someone who SMOKES....THIS has NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING COOL.....
K3vin
I think everyone has pretty much covered the moral side of the issue and I am not a preacher so I will refrain from it.
If you have the urge to start pipe smoking this is definitely the safer route. I had some wonderful people in my life that smoked cigarettes and my habit was also partly due to seeing people I admire do the same thing so I understand where you are coming from.
I would definitely check out some of the suppliers here. Freedom Smoke USA is a great supplier.
If you have the urge to start pipe smoking this is definitely the safer route. I had some wonderful people in my life that smoked cigarettes and my habit was also partly due to seeing people I admire do the same thing so I understand where you are coming from.
I would definitely check out some of the suppliers here. Freedom Smoke USA is a great supplier.
Well put Mistress! Don't start something that you might not be able to stop.
Nope, not a troll. I can photocopy my security guard license and post it if people want some form of ID from me. (I'm not giving up my passport or Social Insurance card. Too much chance of identity theft!) Besides, don't trolls post more frequently, in more threads, more vehemently, than I've done? I've been here, as someone pointed out, more than a month for sure, and this is my first time to really discuss something.
Why is it in this world of the internet, that when someone hears something they don't like/agree with, they cry "Troll!"?
Ok. At this point, I've thanked people for caring about me and explained my reasoning and opinions, as well as showing I've tried to do the homework to understand what I'm doing. Jumping off cliffs with a gliding parachute (paraglider), also called base jumping, is deadly but people still do it. They can make such a choice. I suggest the people offended by me or desperately trying to save me consider the ways this forum has provided for ignoring or blocking a user so you don't have to see my upsetting posts. I'm not trying to control anyone, but some folks here have understood me and offered to give me the best advice on using the DSE601 I've already ordered to so I can use it as safely as possible. I will be carefully paying attention to their hard-earned wisdom and tuning out all the "Save yourself!" and "You make a mockery of my life's pain!" posts. I mean no disrespect. I'm simply worn out from being the dead horse you guys keep beating on.
Tweazee, didn't you say you're also a non-smoker? Maybe in a different way or for very different reasons than mine, but you're initially a non-smoker, right? Or did I misunderstand you?
Why is it in this world of the internet, that when someone hears something they don't like/agree with, they cry "Troll!"?
Ok. At this point, I've thanked people for caring about me and explained my reasoning and opinions, as well as showing I've tried to do the homework to understand what I'm doing. Jumping off cliffs with a gliding parachute (paraglider), also called base jumping, is deadly but people still do it. They can make such a choice. I suggest the people offended by me or desperately trying to save me consider the ways this forum has provided for ignoring or blocking a user so you don't have to see my upsetting posts. I'm not trying to control anyone, but some folks here have understood me and offered to give me the best advice on using the DSE601 I've already ordered to so I can use it as safely as possible. I will be carefully paying attention to their hard-earned wisdom and tuning out all the "Save yourself!" and "You make a mockery of my life's pain!" posts. I mean no disrespect. I'm simply worn out from being the dead horse you guys keep beating on.
Tweazee, didn't you say you're also a non-smoker? Maybe in a different way or for very different reasons than mine, but you're initially a non-smoker, right? Or did I misunderstand you?
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Okay, so I'm not gonna come out and say "you make a mockery of my life's pain," because first of all, I haven't experienced any great pain/anguish/whatever from smoking or trying to quit. I've only been a smoker for about 5 years, and other than coughing up phlegm a LOT more than I ever did before smoking, I haven't really noticed any huge health effects from my smoking. However, I will agree with what others have said about not vaping if you don't smoke. There really isn't any reason to do it. It's not "cool" at all, but it's not horrible either. You can do what you want, but I wouldn't if I were you. I know you're going to do whatever you're going to do regardless of what anybody tells you to do, but I hope that you don't end up smoking because of it.
E-cigs DO smell, just not the way tobacco does. The scents are very faint compared to actual smoke, and they smell good. I also think it's important to note that I've never smelled a candle or incense that was anything like tobacco of any kind. I don't think you're going to get the smell or anything else you're looking for from an e-pipe like some others have already stated. Maybe there's an e-juice that's meant to taste and smell like a pipe, but if there is, I'm not aware of it.
I totally understand liking the smell of pipe smoke though. I have fond memories of going to the flea market on Sundays with my family and smelling all the pipe and cigar smoke in the air. Both produce a nice aroma that I rather enjoy. I don't think vaping, incense, candles, or anything else is going to give you the smell you like though. The only way to get what you're looking for is to actually smoke a pipe or be around someone who is smoking one.
If I knew any information about the e-pipe that could help you, I'd tell you, but I do not unfortunately. Whatever you decide to do with this, good luck and don't get addicted. And honestly, I know how you feel about the reactions you got here. People tend to flame the .... out of me on almost every forum I go to for whatever reason. I guess I'm just an oddball. But I also have to say that this is the most friendly and helpful forum I've ever been to. Not that all kids are .......s or all adults are nice and caring and whatnot, but I think it has a lot to do with the fact that there are no kids here. I think a lot of the flaming and poking fun at any possible chance comes from an adolescent/highschool mentality of always trying to look "cool" to peers by insulting someone. From what I've witnessed, a lot of adults don't care because they've grown up and learned what a real friend is and don't care if they're "cool" or not anymore.
One last thing here: someone said earlier in this thread that when people blow smoke rings they don't inhale... I just want to say that I was not aware of this and that I inhale and blow smoke rings.
E-cigs DO smell, just not the way tobacco does. The scents are very faint compared to actual smoke, and they smell good. I also think it's important to note that I've never smelled a candle or incense that was anything like tobacco of any kind. I don't think you're going to get the smell or anything else you're looking for from an e-pipe like some others have already stated. Maybe there's an e-juice that's meant to taste and smell like a pipe, but if there is, I'm not aware of it.
I totally understand liking the smell of pipe smoke though. I have fond memories of going to the flea market on Sundays with my family and smelling all the pipe and cigar smoke in the air. Both produce a nice aroma that I rather enjoy. I don't think vaping, incense, candles, or anything else is going to give you the smell you like though. The only way to get what you're looking for is to actually smoke a pipe or be around someone who is smoking one.
If I knew any information about the e-pipe that could help you, I'd tell you, but I do not unfortunately. Whatever you decide to do with this, good luck and don't get addicted. And honestly, I know how you feel about the reactions you got here. People tend to flame the .... out of me on almost every forum I go to for whatever reason. I guess I'm just an oddball. But I also have to say that this is the most friendly and helpful forum I've ever been to. Not that all kids are .......s or all adults are nice and caring and whatnot, but I think it has a lot to do with the fact that there are no kids here. I think a lot of the flaming and poking fun at any possible chance comes from an adolescent/highschool mentality of always trying to look "cool" to peers by insulting someone. From what I've witnessed, a lot of adults don't care because they've grown up and learned what a real friend is and don't care if they're "cool" or not anymore.
One last thing here: someone said earlier in this thread that when people blow smoke rings they don't inhale... I just want to say that I was not aware of this and that I inhale and blow smoke rings.
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I smoked for 11 years before my first quit attempt with the patch/Zyban. It was a rough experience for me and the people I lived with, including lots of mood swings and awful, vivid nightmares. I stayed off smokes for about a year, but stress made me start up again. My wife caught me smoking and, after her anger and disappointment settled down, she looked up some info on quitting and suggested e-cigs to me. I only wish e-cigs had been around when I first decided to start smoking.
If someone comes here looking for advice and we all jump down their throats saying "NO!", what kind of message does that send? Does someone have to fill their lungs with smoke before they can come to us for advice? Is that what it takes? I feel bad for anyone who comes here looking for a safer alternative to STARTING to smoke. If they come here looking for answers and all they get is people yelling at them what are they going to do? It just doesn't sit right with me.
People are going to start smoking in this world. If they didn't, BT would go out of business (their product kills their consumers). I would rather see someone pick up a PV than a cigarette. I know that people here care about others, but you have to be aware of how condescending (and even mean) you guys can come across. We all started smoking for a reason. People start vaping for a reason. Regardless of whether or not you agree with the reason, people will start one or the other. Wouldn't you rather see people take the safer route?
To the OP, welcome to ECF and congrats on making a healthier choice and going with an e-pipe. I agree with the others that you should make your own juice. I am about to start doing that myself. I still use nicotine but my wife doesn't (she is a non-smoker, OH NO!) so it will definately be cheaper for us. Create your own perfume with The Perfumer's Apprentice seems to have a great selection of flavors.
If someone comes here looking for advice and we all jump down their throats saying "NO!", what kind of message does that send? Does someone have to fill their lungs with smoke before they can come to us for advice? Is that what it takes? I feel bad for anyone who comes here looking for a safer alternative to STARTING to smoke. If they come here looking for answers and all they get is people yelling at them what are they going to do? It just doesn't sit right with me.
People are going to start smoking in this world. If they didn't, BT would go out of business (their product kills their consumers). I would rather see someone pick up a PV than a cigarette. I know that people here care about others, but you have to be aware of how condescending (and even mean) you guys can come across. We all started smoking for a reason. People start vaping for a reason. Regardless of whether or not you agree with the reason, people will start one or the other. Wouldn't you rather see people take the safer route?
To the OP, welcome to ECF and congrats on making a healthier choice and going with an e-pipe. I agree with the others that you should make your own juice. I am about to start doing that myself. I still use nicotine but my wife doesn't (she is a non-smoker, OH NO!) so it will definately be cheaper for us. Create your own perfume with The Perfumer's Apprentice seems to have a great selection of flavors.
I'm just gonna suggest that you be absolutely sure that your juice is nicotine free. Even if you don't inhale nicotine is absorbed more through the mouth than the lungs. I'm also gonna suggest that you do it sparingly on special occasions or something like that so there is less chance of developing a bad habit.
How can you possibly blow smoke rings and inhale into your lungs? I've been trying it and there is no way.
You can only blow smoke rings by inhaling and holding it in your mouth then pushing it out, there is no way to make the rings after you inhale it into your lungs.
15 years ago I would have never pegged myself as a smoker but here I am with the whole lot of others. Just think about that for a second for me. None of us planned on smoking just like you. You're inching closer with fate you might one day regret. Another note: if so many people are advising against, mathematically, were not incorrect in our advise to not even start. Therefore you are truly gambling against the odds on a very serious matter. This isn't a smart choice no matter how appealing you're mind is making it out to be.
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You are so right! I hope everyone will stop and think about this the next time a non smoker comes here seeking a safer alternative. Those people need this information just as badly as someone who smokes and wants advice on quitting. If we can help people to never start smoking by using PV's from the get go, we'll help save many lives. It makes more sense to help them go a safer way when they start than trying to help them quit smoking after the damage has been done. JMO
Has anyone ever done a poll here to get a look at the age people started smoking? That would be interesting for I've NEVER met an adult that started smoking as an adult. We started as chilldren, because things like "looking cool" outweighed the ability to realistically determine the risks. It's strange empathizing with the OP's decision, because I started for reasons similar to the OP's listed reasons....my grandfather smoked....I stole his Chesterfields.....I was 12. This guy is 40 years old. You wanna "look cool", bud? GO FOR IT.
no, youve asked to be told what you WANT to hear. you have not done your homework!
why?
AMEN!
as a 12 year old i was headstrong and stupid, as an adult im supposed to be wise enough to make the correct decisions using the good judgement that i didnt have as a child. would i start smoking or vaping or chewing or whatever if i had known as a child what i know now? ABSOLUTLEY NOT!
the OP is a fool and i think probably a troll. this troll was hoping to get us riled up, and hoping that others would encourage him, so that he can say "see, i told you that are trying to get non-smokers and kids to start".
I personally like to smoke, but have gotten sick of feeling crappier and crappier because of it over the course of 20 years. Ecigs for me were to feel better health wise, taste and convenience (using one in my house etc). People find so many ways to hurt themselves health wise anyway sometimes I wonder if any of it actually matters.
The clear plastics that alot of food is packaged in these days is extremely unhealthy. The clear lining on canned tomatoes and other acidic foods, has an amazing amount of carcinogens in it. Many sodas are full of acids that can literally eat holes in your stomach. there are just so many things that every one of us does on a daily basis that have the potential to be damaging to our bodies.
I know people who cripple themselves with worry about the unhealthy things they put in their bodies, but nobody gets out of this alive anyway. If you think this is something you wanna try and your not even going to use nic then knock yourself out man. Just keep in mind that if you do progress to nicotine then its a whole new ballgame.
The clear plastics that alot of food is packaged in these days is extremely unhealthy. The clear lining on canned tomatoes and other acidic foods, has an amazing amount of carcinogens in it. Many sodas are full of acids that can literally eat holes in your stomach. there are just so many things that every one of us does on a daily basis that have the potential to be damaging to our bodies.
I know people who cripple themselves with worry about the unhealthy things they put in their bodies, but nobody gets out of this alive anyway. If you think this is something you wanna try and your not even going to use nic then knock yourself out man. Just keep in mind that if you do progress to nicotine then its a whole new ballgame.
I started at 19, still a kid, but not 14 like some people I've met. My mom started at 35, after being married to a smoker for 10 years, then they both quit with Chantix at 45. Not a lot of adults start smoking, but there are some out there.
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