It's your smoking friends that will be thanking you the most for helping to save their lives. Hopefully they will be easily influenced if this is something you decide to do.
Never smoked before...Is vaping 0mg stupid?
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It's your smoking friends that will be thanking you the most for helping to save their lives. Hopefully they will be easily influenced if this is something you decide to do.
A friend told me something I will never forget.......................
"Don't start something you don't want to do, for the rest of you life"!
Makes great sense to me, eveything you do will become a habit in a very short time. Think about it.
"Don't start something you don't want to do, for the rest of you life"!
Makes great sense to me, eveything you do will become a habit in a very short time. Think about it.
I think it's silly to vape if you didn't smoke. But if you do it, go all out. Get a freakin GG, or a Kaji. Might as well use nic to. Hell why not lol. Get ya some 36 mg wowboy. You'll be addicted in no time.
vaping was created for smokers as a "reduced harm" alternative to smoking. I personally believe that it is a harmless pastime, I even think that the nicotine is basically harmless (aside from the fact that its addictive). But that is only part of the story.
My addiction to cigarettes was a dirty, sneaking thing. My addiction was about feeling like a bad person, killing myself everyday and not being able to stop, choosing it over my kids, choosing it over my self respect. I don't understand why someone would want to emulate that, even if it was safe to do so.
For me, hearing someone say they want to emulate smoking brings up an emotional response rather than a logical one, as I'm sure it does for many of us. That's why you're getting such a negative response from the forum members.
It's like saying you want to snort something or shoot something up so you can experience the lifestyle of a drug addict without getting strung out. Of course many of us are going to be horrified that you would even want to do something like that... I can only hope that when you do this thing that you show it off to your friends and try to convert them.
My addiction to cigarettes was a dirty, sneaking thing. My addiction was about feeling like a bad person, killing myself everyday and not being able to stop, choosing it over my kids, choosing it over my self respect. I don't understand why someone would want to emulate that, even if it was safe to do so.
For me, hearing someone say they want to emulate smoking brings up an emotional response rather than a logical one, as I'm sure it does for many of us. That's why you're getting such a negative response from the forum members.
It's like saying you want to snort something or shoot something up so you can experience the lifestyle of a drug addict without getting strung out. Of course many of us are going to be horrified that you would even want to do something like that... I can only hope that when you do this thing that you show it off to your friends and try to convert them.
I have every intention of making my own decision, but thanks for your ridiculous, judgmental, irrelevant, and ignorant input. Much appreciated.
Look, I'm not going to defend every accusation you just threw out there hoping one would stick because it's honestly not worth my time.
All I am saying is it's time to stand up and be a man. Quit worrying about what everyone else is doing and looking cool/fitting in. If you want to smoke or vape and you are legally able - go for it! I think iit is stupid (since you asked that question specifically), but as an adult you're entitled to make your own decisions. Maturity seems to be irrelevant, so I'll leave that alone.
All I am saying is it's time to stand up and be a man. Quit worrying about what everyone else is doing and looking cool/fitting in. If you want to smoke or vape and you are legally able - go for it! I think iit is stupid (since you asked that question specifically), but as an adult you're entitled to make your own decisions. Maturity seems to be irrelevant, so I'll leave that alone.
There. Fixed that for you.
Seriously, you asked, you're complaining about people giving you honest opinions?
Go buy a PV, and some juice, and toke it up. You said it all in the title of your OP. Just replace the question mark with a period, and delete the word "is".
There is no way in this world I would start vaping. I think we are all (at least a lot of us) trying to stop smoking or whatnot. This is a struggle. This is not something I casually dipped into. I was sick of being out of breath, sick of MAJOR dental issues, sick of it all. I didn't pick up a vape stick to be cute while I was out with my friends, I did it to save my life.
NOOOOO!!! Please!! Do not smoke ANYTHING! Save yourself!!
NOOOOO!!! Please!! Do not smoke ANYTHING! Save yourself!!
A whole lot of self-righteous indignation and hypocrisy from many who purport to be all about personal freedom and choice; even AFTER the guy clarified his statements and intentions.
catmman, he asked a question. He got an answer. He didn't like it and took offense at the answer. Waaaah! Nothing I've said goes against personal choice - nothing at all. He asked for an opinion and opinions are, by nature, judgmental since you use your own judgment in forming one. Do whatever you want man, but don't cry when you ask me my opinion and I give it to you.
For me personally since smoking was a struggle and I am trying to be a nonsmoker like the OP it is just hard to see someone willing do something when they are free from something that has so many of us bound.
I know people always do what they want to do but I just think it is foolish even if it is 0 nic, he is inhaling something and many of us struggle with or overlook or choose the lessor of two evils when it comes to what we are inhaling. I just would leave it all alone.
Smoking and vaping and all of that is like a slippery slope to me. You start out buying a few loose smokes (remember when you could do that), you only smoke when you are out at the club, then you only smoke when you can bum one, then no one is around to ask for you and you say forget it, I'll just buy a pack and BAM. You're hooked. It happens just that fast. I just don't want anyone to get into something they don't have to. I'll vape 0 nic, oh that's good, I wonder how 6 nic might hit with with a beer, hmmmm I'll just order 1 pack of those carts, mmmmmm this gives me a little extra buzz maybe the 11 nic will be better with my drinks. I'm just saying...I would seriously advise against it.
I am not trying to be negative, I am not trying to talk down to him. I am just being concerned. That's all.
Not to put to fine a point on it, but there isn't much of anything in your comment above addressing his original question. He took offense because he had every right to. You later clarified your statement, but at first you chose to make fun of the guy.
Its hard to dissuade someone from something you deem to be a negative behavior if you aren't going to give them anything positive to support your assertion. Simply denigrating the guy and what he said had exactly the effect it would have for anyone else. There are plenty of other comments in this thread that answered the original question in the negative and didn't get personal. There are also a couple of comments about how, if Venom should chose to do this, he could use it as a way of getting his friends to quit smoking.
The guy seems like he's trying to make an informed decision. As others did, give him the facts, the pros/cons, answer his question - or don't. There is no call for denigrating him or his reasons.
I'm your age 23 and if I could choose vaping after being a smoker or not having to choose either its obvious what I would choose. When the day comes when I know longer have to vape I will stop that too.
SO yes IMO it is very stupid to start when you don't have to.
Also next time you may want to do a search if you don't want to feel judged or attacked because there has been threads started with this same premise and they all have the same responses like it or not. At least with those you wont feel they are targeted at you, but alas live and learn. This place is actually a great forum (best I have ever been on e-cig related or not) everyone understands the struggles of being a smoker and we all root for each other when we transition to vaping and see results. However, I'm sure we all envy non smokers who never had to look to vaping as a substitute in the first place.
SO yes IMO it is very stupid to start when you don't have to.
Also next time you may want to do a search if you don't want to feel judged or attacked because there has been threads started with this same premise and they all have the same responses like it or not. At least with those you wont feel they are targeted at you, but alas live and learn. This place is actually a great forum (best I have ever been on e-cig related or not) everyone understands the struggles of being a smoker and we all root for each other when we transition to vaping and see results. However, I'm sure we all envy non smokers who never had to look to vaping as a substitute in the first place.
Reminds me of a lot of "don't do as I do, do as I say". Nothing is forbidden (with the exception of minors) and it's that whole forbidden allure that makes people curious. You don't see people in AA telling social drinkers don't drink more than 1 a day. Vaping is not illegal and usually smoking doesn't become addictive for people that start smoking in their adult years, I'm sure the statistics would be even less for vaping ZERO MG NICOTINE. Is inhaling vapor in the shower addictive too? Should we just discourage people from going into steam rooms as well? Nicotine is just a stimulant like caffeine, I'm sure Venom will find it harder to switch from caffeine to caffeine free as opposed to ZERO NICOTINE to a shower steam.
I didn't read past the first page, read the last page. I don't care what "informed decision" this guy needs. A non smoker does not need to be vaping, end of story. If you end up doing it know this: nicotine is addictive, no doubt you will try it, vaping is not saving money, you will spend more screwing with mods and the next biggest thing out there than you know.
Don't do it. You have no addiction. Don't start a senseless one, find a hobby. End of story.
Don't do it. You have no addiction. Don't start a senseless one, find a hobby. End of story.
He is of legal age to make this decision for himself. As he stated this is his way of dealing with being a non-smoker when with his friends who are smokers. We may not all agree with his decision but it is his to make. And let's not forget that it's quite possible that his smoking friends may also become pv users themselves once they become familiar with them through his use of one.
catmman, I understand your point, but I will respectfully disagree. I did poke at him with sarcasm dripping off my keyboard - that much is true. I denigrated his reasoning and tried to show the absurdity of it (and no, I don't buy that he's not doing it at leastg partially to fit in). Like I said, I may not say it as nicely as some others but I do care about the young man. I think he needs to toughen up and not worry about his buddies. I don't buy his story about fitting in with the cool kids because every time he talks about doing it he talks about doing it when his friends are doing it (or smoking, as it were). Part of growing up is being able to take criticism, especially when you ask for it, and striking out and making your own decisions without giving in to peer pressure. Anyone can do that. It takes a man to stand on his own two feet. If he wants to do it for the pleasure, to fit in, or whatever the reason he has the right. I guess I'm too old school sometimes. Sorry if anyone was offended. We can't have that. And I don't feel I got "personal". I cut to the chase and said how I felt about the matter. Again, he asked for our opinions. I gave mine. End of story.
You are getting a lot of negative replies from people wishing they had never started smoking. I personally don't mind that I started smoking, I enjoy it, but I'm not dependent on it. I only started vaping because my oral surgeon diagnosed me with hyperkaratosis and I can't use tobacco anymore.
If you are going to start smoking, then start with vaping. It'll be easier for you to go into than going from cigarettes to vaporizers.
If you are going to start smoking, then start with vaping. It'll be easier for you to go into than going from cigarettes to vaporizers.
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