Joyetech Evic VT 60 Watt

[JeremyR]

I would like a full size evic vt with buttons like the mini and upgradable. OK joyetch, an evic VT v2?

I don't want a lame replaceable double AA battery. Put an even better lipo in the v2.

Or the trusted sigelei's are looking real nice for another mod, if only they would give me a lipo in one if those beasts. sigelei can you give me a 6000 mah 40+amp lipo?

 

[jefsview]

Okay, it is done. I just ordered my second Evic VT (express kit this time). I picked up the white this go round, so I can tell it from my older black one.

@JeremyR I don't think Joyetech is interested in exploring the lipo battery any further than the original Evic VT. I would love a VT 2 with a larger battery and upgradeable firmware, but it won't happen. Not with the Joyetech brand. They've even moved away from lipo batteries in their subsidiary Eleaf brand with their TC versions. Will have to look to Innokin, who will hopefully come out with larger sized lipo mods; The only thing keeping me away from the Coolfire IV Plus was the $60 pricetag.

 

[JeremyR]

All the fear mongering winey vapers that say "won't buy unless it takes a replaceable AA battery" "lipo is not safe" nonsense.... yeah let's just hold the technology back.. .. vapers can be good for that...

Joyetech did use a lipo for a reason because it superior. The market rejected it.. look at Rayon it took a year before people widely accepted because of the winey vapers.

 

[atroph]

Any recommendations for a box mod that does have a LiPo and adjustable TCR? With the exception of DNA 200 devices.

I was eyeballing the koopor 60W which is a single 18650 mod with adjustable TCR. I'll compromise on the LiPo for a single 18650, but the damn USB port is for firmware only. Seriously?

The Xcube II looks nice too, but is a double 18650 box.

I am trying my best not to own a charger.

 

[jefsview]

All the fear mongering winey vapers that say "won't buy unless it takes a replaceable AA battery" "lipo is not safe" nonsense.... yeah let's just hold the technology back.. .. vapers can be good for that...

Joyetech did use a lipo for a reason because it superior. The market rejected it.. look at Rayon it took a year before people widely accepted because of the winey vapers.

I agree. I've been using lipo mods since I started vaping and never had an issue with them. In fact, they last longer than 18650s in my experience. My original MVP 1.5 is still working, although the charge isn't lasting as long, but it's 2 years old

The Evic VT has passed the six month test, and even that jog wheel, which was what I was worried about failing first, has been solid. If I have had the cash during Black Friday, I probably would have picked up 2 instead of one with a BF coupon.

 

[JeremyR]

Definitely better stronger longer. (Kinda like rayon)/

Get a grip vapers lipo is the future. (Kinda like rayon)

I see a pattern.

 

[jefsview]

Definitely better stronger longer. (Kinda like rayon)/

Get a grip vapers lipo is the future. (Kinda like rayon)

I see a pattern.

For those of us that believe

 

[cigatron]

Speaking of dna200's, try finding one without a lipo and the ones that have lipos are like 1800mah max. There are a few with dual or even triple 18650's but I'd buy a 4-5000mah lipo dna200 in a heartbeat.

 

[dimo]

Speaking of dna200's, try finding one without a lipo and the ones that have lipos are like 1800mah max. There are a few with dual or even triple 18650's but I'd buy a 4-5000mah lipo dna200 in a heartbeat.

Ever seen a 5000mah 3S Lipo pack? A dna200 with that kind of battery would be huge!

 

[cigatron]

Ever seen a 5000mah 3S Lipo pack? A dna200 with that kind of battery would be huge!

No, I have never seen a 3S lipo. I don't know that much about lipos except that they work great. How big are we talking about?

 

[dimo]

It would have about the same energy capacity of 6 18650 batteries. And about the same size too.

 

[atroph]

Umm what is in the evic? Isn't it a 5kmah 3.7V lipo? It is a 3 parallel (3P) and not series (3S) battery though. The battery inside the evic isn't that large IMO.

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[dimo]

The evic is probably 2 2500mag cells in parallel. Runs at 3.7 volts.

To get 11.1 volts like dna200 you need 3 of those evic packs in series.

 

[cigatron]

The evic is probably 2 2500mag cells in parallel. Runs at 3.7 volts.

To get 11.1 volts like dna200 you need 3 of those evic packs in series.

Ooh crap, that would be too large. Thanks.

 

[atroph]

Mmm... I respectfully disagree. There are 3 packs inside the VT 3.7v @ 1500 mah each. Combined they will discharge about 5000 mah as per joyetech's lab tests.

Joyetech Official Statement of eVic-VT Battery Capacity - Joyetech

If the pack was wired internally in series it would yield about 11.1 volts @ 1500 mah.

To get the entire 3S @ 5000 mah yes you would need a total of 3 packs.

Looking at some of the DNA devices it appears that some manufacturers are using a pack similar to the VT in series, and some are at a lower mah rating (900-ish).

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[JeremyR]

A series config ypur speaking of would last longer than a parallel at a feasable wattage, same 3 packs.

If you vape say at 50w the total amount of vaping from the 3s 1500 @11v would be equal to or More than the 3p 4500 mah @3.7v

Yes the 1500 mah at 11v is will last you longer than 4500 at 3.7 At 50w!

Why. Do the math, at 50w the amperage load on the batteries with 11v is a fraction of that with 3.7v.

I used strictly series batteries back in 2013 when everyone said it was dangerous... (See my blog and many posts in the 2013s you can see what suposed experts said to me)

I was an open advocate for it at the time, and contrary to the popular belief, I tried to explained how it was actually safer.. the winey vapers scolded me of course... I'm killing people... Are you crazy Lol !! (Once again see the same pattern)

I refuse to use a single battery ever again. I got 2-3 times the usable life from stacked 18350, 850mah, than I did from a single 18650 2000mah

 

[dimo]

A series config would last longer than a parallel at normal wattage, same 3 packs.

If you vape say at 50w the total energy you would gain from the 3s 1500 @11v would be equal to or more than the 3p 4500 mah @3.7v

Yes the1500 mah at 11v is will last you longer than 4500 at 3.7. At 50w

I used to use strictly series batteries back in 2013 when everyone said it was dangerous... I was an open advocate for it at the time, contrary to the belief at the time, I explained how it was actually safer... the winey vapers scolded me of course.. I'm killing people. Lol !! (Once again same pattern of follow the leader)

Agreed. Step down is easier to make more efficient than step up in terms of power regulation. Better efficiency = less wasted energy = longer vape times.

 

[JeremyR]

Lower amperage at the battery.

 

[AlaskaVaper]

A series config ypur speaking of would last longer than a parallel at a feasable wattage, same 3 packs.

A series config ypur speaking of would last longer than a parallel at a feasable wattage, same 3 packs.

If you vape say at 50w the total amount of vaping from the 3s 1500 @11v would be equal to or More than the 3p 4500 mah @3.7v

Yes the 1500 mah at 11v is will last you longer than 4500 at 3.7 At 50w!

Why. Do the math, at 50w the amperage load on the batteries with 11v is a fraction of that with 3.7v.

I used strictly series batteries back in 2013 when everyone said it was dangerous... (See my blog and many posts in the 2013s you can see what suposed experts said to me)

I was an open advocate for it at the time, and contrary to the popular belief, I tried to explained how it was actually safer.. the winey vapers scolded me of course... I'm killing people... Are you crazy Lol !! (Once again see the same pattern)

I refuse to use a single battery ever again. I got 2-3 times the usable life from stacked 18350, 850mah, than I did from a single 18650 2000mah

Why. Do the math, at 50w the amperage load on the batteries with 11v is a fraction of that with 3.7v.

I used strictly series batteries back in 2013 when everyone said it was dangerous... (See my blog and many posts in the 2013s you can see what suposed experts said to me)

I was an open advocate for it at the time, and contrary to the popular belief, I tried to explained how it was actually safer.. the winey vapers scolded me of course... I'm killing people... Are you crazy Lol !! (Once again see the same pattern)

I refuse to use a single battery ever again. I got 2-3 times the usable life from stacked 18350, 850mah, than I did from a single 18650 2000mah

 

[AlaskaVaper]

Thanks JeremyR for your posts re: the LiPo's. I have always wondered at the VT LiPo and just why its rating was what it was compared to the 3s's in the DNA200's. I love the battery life I get from my VT's and feel it is a shame that Joytech did not follow uo with a firmware upgradable version. Perhaps that will hopefully occur. I have the VTC and its redeeming feature is the firmware is upgradable and for which Joytech's doing an outstanding job, in my opinion. The huge drawback for all of these single cell 18650 mods is the need to carry a bunch of extra batteries when out and about or when home keeping the charger on very active duty. Lets hope that in the future the mfg's can find a LiPo parallel sweet spot for an all day walk around smallish device that is also upgradable.