Joyetech vs. knockoffs?

[ClippinWings]

Hey Clip,

Well, all I've seen locally and most online stores is that they only sell black or silver. Currently, I"m debating about getting this:

eGo-C Starter Kit
+ case:
JOYE eGo PCC (Personal Charger Case)

The kit comes with "5x empty eGo-T cartrides", those are the "cartomizers" correct? So they have the atomizer built in and then I just fill in the liquid correct? Where as the "5x Ego-C atomizer heads" are the clear "cigar like tips" where you fill them up and use the atomizer inside the cone correct?

I hope I have this right!!!

Oh ok...

now that you mention it... TW only offer eGo-C in Steal and Black as well... I know they are genuine Joye, so I'm going to asusme you are right and that color batteries are probably not authentic at this time...

BUT!!!

Why not just buy an eGo or eGo-T battery in a color you want... same battery, just doesn't say eG0-C on it

 

[adambean]

1) Really? I see so many people selling the eGo ... so I guess as long as they say "eGo", I'm ok? If it doesn't say "joyetech", don't fret? Check that link in my previous reply ... I'm about to buy that one, it's blue!

3) Yeah, you're right, "drip tip" (again, I'm a newbie, this is technically day 2!).

5) Check that link, that case seems perfect!

 

[adambean]

Well ... isn't the eGo-C the new hotness? All brand new and fancy ... not to mention the reason of this model? Which, as I learn more, do I "really" need the C If I do cartomizers + drip tips? Kinda defeats the purpose of the new atomizer in the C yeah?

 

[Nikkita6]

Here's what I find funny .... I have 7 genuine Joyetech atties, and 4 510 knockoffs, and all the knockoffs are better performers than the originals. I have had 1 Joyetech 510 atty die after one month light to moderate use, and 1 Joye atty that was DOA, while only 1 of the knockoffs died, and that was after 2 1/2 months of use.

Also I have 4 genuine Joye auto batts, and 2 knockoffs, and yet again the knockoffs perform much better in every way, and the knockoffs do not spontaneously fire off when I breath too close to them ... so go figure?

All 4 of my genuine Joye Ego manual batteries have been great though, no problems, likewise with my 2 510 Mega knockoff manual batts.

This was a good question to ask ..

 

[SirVette]

Yes, the eGo-C is new so few have it. Normally guys do not use a PCC charger w/ the eGo batteries since it's not needed.
You did a link to the small 510 batteries on Value Vapor. Some use a PCC for the little batteries since they don't run long.

If you like the Tank system, you don't need cartos though you might want to try them on the eGo battery.
Dripping uses the atomizer/cart system that you don't need though you might want to try them on the eGo battery.

 

[adambean]

Just called smokey treats, it's not an official Joyetech ... but as I've learned, neither is mine. I know it's silly, but I have a thing for blue and it doesn't appear that it's possible (as of now), to get an official Joyetech in anything besides black/silver. That and reading Nikkita's post, the knock-offs don't really seem to be a big issue. Being new to this world of ecigs and such, is that something people strive for? OEM's? Is there a general reputation between OEM and knock-offs? Obviously you win on the price point; however I obviously want to invest my money wisely...

 

[adambean]

Yes, the eGo-C is new so few have it. Normally guys do not use a PCC charger w/ the eGo batteries since it's not needed.

While I can't disagree with this point, I am paranoid about running out of battery. Say I'm out and about and my eGo dies ... I don't want to be in that position where I go buy a pack of smokes. This worries me ...

You did a link to the small 510 batteries on Value Vapor. Some use a PCC for the little batteries since they don't run long.

I didn't realize that was for the "slims", it was more about the concept that I wanted to find something "cooler" looking than a plain color.

If you like the Tank system, you don't need cartos though you might want to try them on the eGo battery.
Dripping uses the atomizer/cart system that you don't need though you might want to try them on the eGo battery.

The tank system, ugh, getting confused again. That's just the clear tips that use the atomizer right? If so, I'm not a huge fan as they are kinda leaky already. This is why I was thinking the cartos (same concept as the tank, just with the built-in atomizer -right?) would be the better choice. That and based on reading here, cartos seem to be more of a fan favorite yeah?

Not sure I follow the last line about trying on the eGo battery? I'm currently using the drip tip and really like it. But, as stated, I don't want to have to stop and refill while out and about; thus why I'd want to have cartos. The problem there is, having a proper case to be able to carry all this around!

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I carry my cartos in a Tic Tac Container.

While I can't disagree with this point, I am paranoid about running out of battery. Say I'm out and about and my eGo dies ... I don't want to be in that position where I go buy a pack of smokes. This worries me ...



I didn't realize that was for the "slims", it was more about the concept that I wanted to find something "cooler" looking than a plain color.


The tank system, ugh, getting confused again. That's just the clear tips that use the atomizer right? If so, I'm not a huge fan as they are kinda leaky already. This is why I was thinking the cartos (same concept as the tank, just with the built-in atomizer -right?) would be the better choice. That and based on reading here, cartos seem to be more of a fan favorite yeah?

Not sure I follow the last line about trying on the eGo battery? I'm currently using the drip tip and really like it. But, as stated, I don't want to have to stop and refill while out and about; thus why I'd want to have cartos. The problem there is, having a proper case to be able to carry all this around!

 

[laurafhl]

I'm pretty sure I buy knock offs cause I use 510 T's and I can get 4 batteries, with the works for under $100 online. They work fine. I spend a little over $6 for 15ml of Juice.. Don't know if I can name names here but ECblend in Oregon is where I get my juice and they have a multitude of flavors.

 

[steveo9043]

If this is true....

That battery WILL work with your eGO cone ...

The wonders of 510 connections... OPTIONS!

but it's tiny, will look dumb due to it's size and will die fast.

Buy that battery (id say at least 2) and then order https://www.cignot.com/product_p/egc-str-all.htm (again at least 2)

That will put u at $63 add in some extra tanks/atty's if you want and a charger and you will be at the whole kit price with your custom battery choice.

 

[adambean]

Not gonna buy just yet, gonna keep looking; however as of right now, I think I'm pretty sold on the eGo-C starter + PCC from smokey treats. I think I have everything figured out now except tanks vs. cartos.

 

[SirVette]

While I can't disagree with this point, I am paranoid about running out of battery. Say I'm out and about and my eGo dies ... I don't want to be in that position where I go buy a pack of smokes. This worries me ...
I didn't realize that was for the "slims", it was more about the concept that I wanted to find something "cooler" looking than a plain color.

The tank system, ugh, getting confused again. That's just the clear tips that use the atomizer right? If so, I'm not a huge fan as they are kinda leaky already. This is why I was thinking the cartos (same concept as the tank, just with the built-in atomizer -right?) would be the better choice. That and based on reading here, cartos seem to be more of a fan favorite yeah?

Not sure I follow the last line about trying on the eGo battery? I'm currently using the drip tip and really like it. But, as stated, I don't want to have to stop and refill while out and about; thus why I'd want to have cartos. The problem there is, having a proper case to be able to carry all this around!

I posted a link to a Poll on eGo battery run time. 6-8 hrs normally for 650mAh.

You can get a larger mAh (& in blue) battery for what you have.

Leaking means outside the PV on your hands using it.

Basically there are 3 systems:
Cartomizers are a simple system that some prefer as the cartos are cheap & disposable (not better) called a 2 piece system carto & battery.
3 piece is like the Joye 510 with an atty, a cart to hold liquid and battery. Drip: the cart or tip is removed & a few drops of liquid are dripped on the atty.
eGo Tank is the new system.

 

[stephpd]

Just called smokey treats, it's not an official Joyetech ... but as I've learned, neither is mine. I know it's silly, but I have a thing for blue and it doesn't appear that it's possible (as of now), to get an official Joyetech in anything besides black/silver. That and reading Nikkita's post, the knock-offs don't really seem to be a big issue. Being new to this world of ecigs and such, is that something people strive for? OEM's? Is there a general reputation between OEM and knock-offs? Obviously you win on the price point; however I obviously want to invest my money wisely...

As to knock offs. Official Joyetech batteries are regulated to 3.4 volts. Most of the knockoffs are 3.7 volts so they give a better and hotter hit.
I think the idea of 510 batteries verses Ego style has been covered. Also note that many of the knockoff batteries come in larger (longer sizes and more mAh's (more vaping time between charges) The low end of Ego batteries is 650 mAh. The larger ones are 900 and 1100 mAh.

Where name brands becomes important is in Cartos. Most here have had good experience with Boge and Smoktech. For the Ego sized batteries the Boge 2.0 ohm and Smoktech 1.7 are very popular, as is the 1.5 dual coil.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I couldn't agree more and I've found most vaping issues are delivery related(carto, cart, atty, tank) and not caused by the PV

As to knock offs. Official Joyetech batteries are regulated to 3.4 volts. Most of the knockoffs are 3.7 volts so they give a better and hotter hit.
I think the idea of 510 batteries verses Ego style has been covered. Also note that many of the knockoff batteries come in larger (longer sizes and more mAh's (more vaping time between charges) The low end of Ego batteries is 650 mAh. The larger ones are 900 and 1100 mAh.

Where name brands becomes important is in Cartos. Most here have had good experience with Boge and Smoktech. For the Ego sized batteries the Boge 2.0 ohm and Smoktech 1.7 are very popular, as is the 1.5 dual coil.

 

[stephpd]

Also some folks like the Ce2's and Kranger cartos. I have no experience with either of these yet.
But I do like the Boge and Smoktech ones.
My favorite being the 1.7 ohm from Smoktech.

For a great value check out the Kgo;(good Ego knockoff)
http://www.darkcityvapor.com/shop/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=51
http://www.hoosierecigsupply.com/KGO-kit-1100mAh-by-SLB-HEC001.htm

2 1100mAh batteries, charger and either cartos or attys/ cartidges. And all for about $40 when you use the discount codes.

 

[Pammers]

Whatever you decide, do NOT use the Smokymizer CE3 cartos with your ego batteries, they are evil! They murdered my 5 Ego batteries and my brand new Ego pass-thru.

I'm trying to decide if I want to purchase more Ego's or try something totally different....not sure what.

 

[RockinRobbieSF]

I used to love CE2s but they can be high maintenance (learning curve, fiddly, etc.). You've been warned!

My new love is the Stardust from Gotvapes (works great on kgo/ego, etc.) but they're hard to come by now because they keep getting sold out!

 

[adambean]

I really wish I would have come here first vs. the local store ... but oh well. You guys have been awesome!!!

I think now I'm down to debating between 650mAh batters or larger. The kit comes with two, and so far I've gone all day without a charge on my 650 and still going strong. Obviously the bigger batters are larger in size, and I've become fond of this size as I have my own way of holding. Not yet sure on this one ...

The other area to determine is cartos vs. the tank. The tank is good and all; however I'm already seeing leaks. I think I got some cheap tanks though, no idea. They both accomplish the same, so I'm not yet sure what truly is the difference outside of less pieces?

Anyone familiar with any other sites besides esmokeytreats that has the eGo-C (in different colors) as a kit that offer larger batteries as part of the kit? I'm still hunting ...

Thanks again all, this has been very helpful!

 

[ClippinWings]

OK, I think I know why your getting confused...

eGo is a battery type.
Fat, 650mAh and higher, manual

eGo-T and eGo-C are systems that use the eGo battery...

eGo-T means eGo Tank
the C uses the same tanks as the T, but the C's atomizers are easily and more cheaply replaceable... with the T, the entire cone is replaced.

I can take my eGo-T, replace the cone/atty and it's now an eGo-C, even though the battery will still say T.

there are a ton of options that fit the eGo battery

You keep saying you have a drip tip on an eGo-C...
that's not really possible... because as soon as you remove the Cone and replace it with the atomiser needed to properly Drip... you no longer have an eGo-C... you have an eGo battery that came form an eGo-C kit.

is this making sense?

eGo-T, eGo-C & eGo ... are all eGo
eGo-T, eGo-C... are all eGo Tank systems
All eGo's are 510
Not all 510 are eGos

But 510 parts work with the eGo

When saying eGo, you are talking about a class/style of battery
When saying 510, in reference to a battery you are talking abotu a skinny battery....
in reference to a connection... it can mean eGo, 510, Riva, KGo, etc etc etc

 

[adambean]

Oh, I do have another question ...

My current setup that I got locally for the C has an atomizer + cone and drip tip so that I can do the drip method. The eGo-C kits don't come with this atomizer, just the tanks ... which atomizer do I need for this to do this on a new setup?

Thanks