Just bought my first ecig...

[tica02]

I've looked about 10 places and can't even find one of those in a kit. Can't order most likely til next week so hope I find something. I like the thought of being able to change out the parts instead of buying new. I do eventually want this to be cheaper than smoking

 

[ikelvin]

Now that I've found these forums I'm not totally convinced I purchased what I should have. I bought a starter kit from greensmartliving.com, totally due to the cheaper price. I'm a total newbie, I don't understand half the talk around here about carts and tanks and other things, my head is spinning.

I've been looking at crystal clear vaping since the general consensus seems to be that refilling with juice is better than premade cartridges. Does anyone have any time spent with the crystal clear products? I'd like something that has good throat hit with a decent amount of smoke, in some decent flavors. I seem to be constantly puffing on this one that I bought and that doesn't really seem like it's the point.

If you recommended crystal clear vaping, could you give me some advice on what I should buy to get me started, the essentials I need, what I do with them, and what kind of level juice a pack a day smoker would need. I really truly want to quit smoking regular cigarettes.

Thanks for any help you could give.

Welcome onboard to the vaping zone

 

[sailorman]

You seem to be saying that there is a manufacturer called e-Go that makes a line of power units that they call e-power. That is a new one on me.

I bought Smoktech 14650 E-power power units that are slimmer than what some manufacturers are calling an eGo, which again, I say is misleading because of the somewhat standardized meaning of an "eGo-type" PV which tend to measure 14mm in diameter, not 18mm.

The industry had better get their .... straight and not confusing the hell out of everyone with their asinine terminology.

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"The e-power that sweetvapes calls an ego IS an eGo e-power. It's different than a Smoketech e-Power".

This thing Ego E-Power Kit at Sweet-vapes is a Smoktech Ego e-power, uses an 18650 battery, and is 18mm wide, as opposed to the 14mm of a Joyetch eGo battery. That is why I say it's confusing to call it an "Ego", and not something like the "SuperEgo". And I have my doubts as to you being correct about distinguishing this device from a Smoktech, when they are saying it's a Smoktech.

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"I'm not sure if they do smaller sample sizes, but it might be worth a look because if you do find something you like, you can end up with a good amount of juice for a good price"

They sell sample sizes of their 15 best-selling flavors, $6.75 for 10ml.

Welcome to Tasty Vapor

If you look at this one, you will see it is an eGo e-Power. It is a 2 piece unit with the switch integrated into the tube. This is NOT what you want. The Smoketech e-Power is a 3 piece unit with a separate switch.

http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?pag..._color_plus.tpl&product_id=296&category_id=22

Here is the 3 piece e-power by Smoketech

http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?pag...product_id=288&category_id=22]Ego E-Power Kit

 

[tica02]

I found kits at ejuicemonkeys.com. Is that a reputable place?

 

[sailorman]

I've looked about 10 places and can't even find one of those in a kit. Can't order most likely til next week so hope I find something. I like the thought of being able to change out the parts instead of buying new. I do eventually want this to be cheaper than smoking

Sarah, Here is the unit you want. A 14650 Smoketech E-Power with 5 cartos. You can get the other stuff you need there too.

E-Power 14650

Uh Oh, they just went out of stock today. OH well you are going to wait anyway, right.

Make sure you get the one with the Blue light. There was a switch issue on the older ones with the white light. All of Hoosiers have the Blue light.

 

[sailorman]

I found kits at ejuicemonkeys.com. Is that a reputable place?

I've not heard of them. Hoosier is definitely reputable.

 

[tica02]

Well I can't order until at least next week, so I'll take a gander around then. I'll suffer with a few analogs a day and this horrible cigarette shaped one

 

[John D in CT]

I've looked about 10 places and can't even find one of those in a kit. Can't order most likely til next week so hope I find something. I like the thought of being able to change out the parts instead of buying new. I do eventually want this to be cheaper than smoking

You had asked for a site, and I haven't responded yet because I can't find one either. I did happen to buy the last one that sweet-vapes had. Looks like all the vendors are in the same boat, victims of the popularity of that device.

Maybe the vaping gods are telling you to buy a ProVari, which I say only 1/4 in jest. In my (relatively short) time on this site, it seems to be the number one no-brainer for a top-shelf variable voltage power unit. Those in the know will tell you that higher voltages with higher resistance atomizers are head and shoulders better than lower voltage ones like any of the ones we've been talking about in this thread.

This might be a factor for you; you said you "wanted" to quit ... but with vaping, you will quit. (OK, I'm only 98.9% sure of it). I say that because A) you want to, B) you seem extremely intelligent, so you realize all the many benefits of vaping, and C) vaping is more pleasurable than cigarettes, and most of the human beings I've encountered tend to favor the more pleasurable over the less pleasurable. (I say "most" because I've met all kinds in my 58 years).

So, how much is a ProVari? Maybe 150 bucks. Here in CT, that's 18 days of smoking analogs, and not more than a month's worth anywhere else. All the attachments stay about the same price, so why not rock them with a great power unit?

Food for thought.

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How would this look on your desk?

 

[sailorman]

Ejuice monkey is too expensive. $12 more for the e-Power kit. You can probably find a dicount code here or Hoosiers, so that'll be under $48, compared to $56 at the monkey place. That's 25% more.

Plus, any place that's selling a Bolt for $62 is a den of thieves.

 

[sailorman]

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So, how much is a ProVari? Maybe 150 bucks. Here in CT, that's 18 days of smoking analogs, and not more than a month's worth anywhere else. All the attachments stay about the same price, so why not rock them with a great power unit?

Food for thought.

Hmmm... Closer to $225 after you add the battery, charger, cartos and misc. Then you have a 2 week wait after you order.

I have a feeling Sarah is dealing with a budget here.
Maybe a Lavatube, not a Provari.

 

[tica02]

I agree that the provari is a thing of usefullness and beauty, but I'm not sure it would be something I'd want to start out on. I can get a kGo or e-power and a crap ton of juice and supplies for 160$. I appreciate the recommendation, but I don't really think I need something like that for now.

I can wait for Hoosiers to have more stock, and I can get everything else I need from there as well I believe.

 

[John D in CT]

Hmmm... Closer to $225 after you add the battery, charger, cartos and misc. Then you have a 2 week wait after you order.

I have a feeling Sarah is dealing with a budget here.
Maybe a Lavatube, not a Provari.

true, i was thinking of the ProVari all by itself, which is going for $159.95.

ProVari Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarette

Than again, my great-grandmother had an interesting saying: "I can't afford to buy cheap shoes".

Here's an idea; some places still have bare-bones Smoktech e-Powers. Instead of a kit, some of which contain useless pre-filled cartidges, Sarah could buy a 14650 power unit, 1 extra battery, a charger, a five-pack of 1.7-2.0 cartos, and a 3.5 ml tank with 2 or 3 punched 1.7-2.0 cartos and be vaping in no time.

 

[sailorman]

Those in the know will tell you that higher voltages with higher resistance atomizers are head and shoulders better than lower voltage ones like any of the ones we've been talking about in this thread....

I have a Lavatube and occasionally run it up to 5.5-6V with a 3ohm carto. To be honest, it's not all that different than using 5V with a 2 ohm carto. If I want a real burner, I'll load 7.4V and a 3ohm carto in my bullet, but it's not very pleasant. It's harsh and wipes out a lot of flavors too. If you were vaping strong tobacco flavors, maybe it would be better. My theory is that 12 watts is 12 watts, whether you get it from 5V and a 2.1ohm carto or with 6V and a 3ohm carto.

With the lavatube, I pretty much stay in the 4.2 to 4.8V range with a 2.1ohm Vision Stone. Crank it down to 3.8-4.2 at night after my lungs are worn out. IMO, that's what's nice about a VV, not so much the burning hot high voltage stuff.

 

[sailorman]

true, i was thinking of the ProVari all by itself, which is going for $159.95.

ProVari Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarette

Than again, my great-grandmother had an interesting saying: "I can't afford to buy cheap shoes".

Here's an idea; some places still have bare-bones Smoktech e-Powers. Instead of a kit, some of which contain useless pre-filled cartidges, Sarah could buy a 14650 power unit, 1 extra battery, a charger, a five-pack of 1.7-2.0 cartos, and a 3.5 ml tank with 2 or 3 punched 1.7-2.0 cartos and be vaping in no time.

My grandmother had an interesting saying too: "It's not too expensive, but it might as well cost a million". LOL.

I think Sarah has a little wait anyway and had originally had more items included with her ego, i.e. atomizer to taste juice, mega cartos that were important to her, couple drip tips, etc. If she wants to piece-meal it all together, she could certainly do it. It would cost her more, but get her vaping something decent quicker. Just depends on how long she want's to put up with the mini-cig she has now.

 

[John D in CT]

If you look at this one, you will see it is an eGo e-Power. It is a 2 piece unit with the switch integrated into the tube. This is NOT what you want. The Smoketech e-Power is a 3 piece unit with a separate switch.

Ego E-Power Kit

Here is the 3 piece e-power by Smoketech

Ego E-Power Kit]18650 Chrome E-Power Kit

Neither is what I want, which is a 14650 Smoktech E-power. Those are both 18650 devices; "Superegos", as I wish they were called. (Maybe 16340's could be called "Inflated eGos").

And you continue to confuse me because according to sweet-vapes, both of your links point to Smoktech products. You continue to draw a distinction between the Smoktech e-Power and the eGo e-Power as if they are from different manufacturers.

 

[John D in CT]

I have a Lavatube and occasionally run it up to 5.5-6V with a 3ohm carto. To be honest, it's not all that different than using 5V with a 2 ohm carto. If I want a real burner, I'll load 7.4V and a 3ohm carto in my bullet, but it's not very pleasant. It's harsh and wipes out a lot of flavors too. If you were vaping strong tobacco flavors, maybe it would be better. My theory is that 12 watts is 12 watts, whether you get it from 5V and a 2.1ohm carto or with 6V and a 3ohm carto.

With the lavatube, I pretty much stay in the 4.2 to 4.8V range with a 2.1ohm Vision Stone. Crank it down to 3.8-4.2 at night after my lungs are worn out. IMO, that's what's nice about a VV, not so much the burning hot high voltage stuff.

I'll go ahead and repeat what I said:

"Those in the know will tell you that higher voltages with higher resistance atomizers are head and shoulders better than lower voltage ones like any of the ones we've been talking about in this thread.... "

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...on/277243-what-your-voltage-sweet-spot-2.html

 

[sailorman]

I didn't literally mean what YOU want.

Sweetvapes has one labeled wrong, or else Smoketech and Joyetech have something going on.

If you look at the actual page, Sweetvapes drops the "Smoketech" label on the eGo version and calls it simply the eGo e-Power.

The point was that there are 2 different versios of 18650 e-powers. One has a replaceable switch, so it would behoove anyone who is looking at these to realize the difference.

 

[tica02]

Those lavatubes are interesting looking. But you're right I am definitely looking at a budget. I like the kGo looks, not to mention I want batteries and tanks that I can fill once and I don't have to worry about all day. But I wouldn't mind something fairly simple either.
Besides wanting something that will last me all day, I also want something that I can hit a few times and put away until I need it again. With two little kids I have very little time to take a break and go smoke. I get my mornings to myself but those are often spent catching up on housework.
My husband is totally not sold on the idea, thinks my starter kit I bought should be just fine for me and I need to just learn to put it down. Seems to think I'm going to go crazy and buy a whole bunch of expensive stuff.
My plan is to find something I like and then stick with it.
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[sailorman]

Well, if you can figure out which end of a battery goes in first, the e-Power is about as simple as it comes.

A couple weeks ago, you could've gotten a Lavatube kit, including battery, charger and case for $52. I think the same kit is back up to $70 now, which is still a good deal, but it only comes with a drip tip and an atomizer. So, you still need a spare battery, cartomizers and all that other stuff. It adds up quick.

You'll be happy with either the kGo or the e-Power for a good long while. The trick will be to find the juice you like and the carto or tank that's the right capacity and resistance for you. You may end up going to a Stardust carto or something like that. You can use most of the stuff made for an eGo, but not everything. To use special eGo stuff, like the Stardust, you need an adapter, but it's only about $4.

 

[John D in CT]

I want batteries and tanks that I can fill once and I don't have to worry about all day.

Just about any 1000mah+ battery will last all day, and very few juice delivery systems that I know of will go all day without filling; at least not ones that wouldn't look ridiculous on a kGo or a 14650. A 6ml tank/carto would come close to what you're looking for, but refilling anything about 1ml or more isn't a big deal. Sounds like cartomizers (those not surrounded by tanks, that is) won't be your usual thing, as they need frequent topping off.

"But I wouldn't mind something fairly simple either".

This stuff is all simple (in use, anyway - once you figure a few things out).

"Besides wanting something that will last me all day, I also want something that I can hit a few times and put away until I need it again".

I think that's the case with virtually all vaping systems.

"My husband is totally not sold on the idea, thinks my starter kit I bought should be just fine for me and I need to just learn to put it down".

Consider asking your husband to please refrain from telling you what you need to do.

"Seems to think I'm going to go crazy and buy a whole bunch of expensive stuff".

Seems to not know much about this, or somehow think that cigarettes are not expensive, or not trust your judgment, or not care enough about what's important to you, or all of the above.

"My plan is to find something I like and then stick with it".

Mine too, but it might take you a few steps. I've been fine with the Joyetech eGo-T for 6 months. This does not have to be very expensive. One-fourth the cost of smoking is a reasonable goal. With a replaceable-battery power unit and DIY juice, I think one-tenth could be achieved.