Just hemp

[Big Screen D]

No worries, I appreciate it anyway I'll have fun trying to figure it out (I hope). Drying will be the interesting part...I don't have a microwave and I do laundry at a laundromat...the joys of city living

Put mine in the oven overnight on the lowest setting of 140 degrees. Been fluffing it back up as I use it.

 

[erawk]

 

[Stoneface]

Brought this forward....

Put mine in the oven overnight on the lowest setting of 140 degrees. Been fluffing it back up as I use it.

Thanks very much guys, much appreciated!

 

[turbocad6]

is the hp and bs somewhat redundant to the oxiclean? thinking of just picking up some oxiclean and soaking and swishing and then boiling in water, is anyone adding anything to the boiling water like baking soda right in the boil? hp too?

 

[bapgood]

is the hp and bs somewhat redundant to the oxiclean? thinking of just picking up some oxiclean and soaking and swishing and then boiling in water, is anyone adding anything to the boiling water like baking soda right in the boil? hp too?

Yeah the hp&bs is probably a little redundant.

 

[Texaslimo]

Bap,

I just shared your process.

lol....I was getting around to posting that in here....here it is


So here it was I did as close I can remember.

Note - I processed a lot at one time probably about 5-8oz's and it was kind of a pita dealing with that much.

My first try was a half lazy attempt.

I put the whole batch in a wash bag and into the washing machine and washed it on the sanitize cycle.
Then boiled for 30 minutes and rinsed three times. Then I put it back in the wash bag and dried it the dryer. It came out really clumped and matted and was a pita to pull apart and fluff. I think a lot of this was due to dealing with so much and not pat drying and pulling apart before drying in the dryer. The flavor was ok and got better as the first tank went on, but there was always a little bit of dark "hemp" tweak to the flavor.

So I decided to try again and make sure it was clean!!!

Here are my steps for processing the first batch for a second time.

Boiled for like 10 minutes to loosen it up.
Rinse
HP&BS (hydrogen peroxide and baking soda)
Rinse
Boil 20min
Rinse
Soaked in oxyclean for a day while I was at work
Rinse
Boil 15min
Rinse
HP&BS
Rinse
Boil 30min
Rinse
Boil 30min
Rinse
Boil 30min
Air dried for a couple of days...minus a small batch I dried in the microwave, which actually turned out really good. I just air dried out of laziness mainly since I had some to use.

If I do it again with a fresh batch of hemp this would probably be my procedure:

First and for most I would go through the hemp and pull out all the woody looking pieces and dark fibers while the hemp is dry and easy to pull apart and sort through.

Then....
Hand wash with a dish detergent like dawn or etc.
Rinse
Soak in oxyclean for 6+ hours
Rinse
Boil 15min
Rinse
HP&BS
Rinse
Boil 30min
Rinse
Boil 30min
Rinse
Boil 30min
Rinse
Pull apart and pat dry with paper towels
Dry using either the microwave or clothes dryer.


I know it sounds like a long and huge pita, but the end results are worth it IMHO. It really didn't seem that bad to do. I really think the oxyclean and HP&BS are key, I really noticed the color change after the oxyclean soak.

 

[junquedujour]

i spread mine on a cookie sheet/jelly roll pan and baked at 225F for about 90minutes - turning & fluffing a bit every 20-30 minutes. worked great!

 

[BobC]

Don't know what the peroxide or oxyclean does besides bleaching here, I find that just boiling a couple of ounces in a quart of water & rinsing throughly with 4-5 repetitions and drying in the dryer in a nylon sock (thanks BJ) works just fine, absolutely no hemp taste at all

 

[mikepetro]

Yeah the hp&bs is probably a little redundant.

Agreed, I started out with oxyclean, and then tried the HP&BS after seeing it here. The results were the same. Never tried doing them both on the same batch as I too thought it redundant. I like the oxyclean a tad better because it adds a soap factor, sort of an all in one solution.

 

[mikepetro]

BTW all, I have found repeatedly that I get greats results drying this way.

On the final rinse, while it is all still nice and puffy in the water, I gently scoop out the mass and put it in a strainer. I do not squeeze it or wring the water out, I do my best to maintain the puff ball. The end result is a MUCH fluffier product with less hard clumps. A 1/4 oz will dry overnight no problem, just did one yesterday and it is ready to use now.

 

[gdeal]

Don't know what the peroxide or oxyclean does besides bleaching here, I find that just boiling a couple of ounces in a quart of water & rinsing throughly with 4-5 repetitions and drying in the dryer in a nylon sock (thanks BJ) works just fine, absolutely no hemp taste at all

I posted a pic earlier on Bapgoods "Uber" clean vs my version. Seems like the more powerful oxidation of Oxyclean vs HP&BS further refines the fibers a bit (but it could have been a number of the other steps he did as well). When prepping a wick, I can get a smoother longer stranded wick from Baps than I could with mine. The material was also noticeable smoother and had less small pieces of fiber coming off it. It may all be optics though, wicking/taste was really close.

I am going to try a rapid prep version next: Oxiclean wash/bath, rinse, then boil/rinse, then microwave dry. I'll post up a comparison to the other three versions.

 

[turbocad6]

Ha, that's the method im wworking right now, oxy bath 5 hours or so, then swishing it around in that bath then swishing around in a few rises then boil and rinse and vape. I can kinda live with the sutle hemp taste as is just boiled so im thinking this extra prewash should do it for me. Im doing enough to last me till may 5th of 2039

 

[BJ43]

Vertical cone 28g 1.5 ohm on a Rocket, finished with hemp fiber.




Side by side 2 Rockets with same 28g 1.5 ohm vertical, one straight and one cone, same juice, IMO the cone produces more vapor with more flavor and TH. I had noticed this with the cone in a Fogger but wanted to test it side by side in the same RBA. Technically the air slows down a little as it expands in the cone and goes into the chimney giving it more time to absorb vapor. Also it is probably a little hotter in the cone with the slower air flow and watts can be dialed down a bit. I am vaping both at 14 watts and they are both monsters but the cone is better IMO. For the cone, I started my first wrap on a 1.5mm bit then transferred it to a dremel diamond cone to continue the wraps in the cone shape. To finish I pressed it tight with needle nose and torched it.

 

[tiburonfirst]

BTW all, I have found repeatedly that I get greats results drying this way.

On the final rinse, while it is all still nice and puffy in the water, I gently scoop out the mass and put it in a strainer. I do not squeeze it or wring the water out, I do my best to maintain the puff ball. The end result is a MUCH fluffier product with less hard clumps. A 1/4 oz will dry overnight no problem, just did one yesterday and it is ready to use now.

good thing i came looking in here

 

[GoodNews!]

Just to ask, has anyone tried Mountain Vapor's pre-built hemp heads?

For some questions:

1. Does hemp have any danger of actually igniting?
2. Does hemp wick well, and does it wick well with VG+Distilled Water juice? (Think Velvet Cloud Vapors, if anyone's tried them.)
3. The pre-wicked heads on MV look pretty dingy colored. Is he using twine or hemp cotton?

Thanks!

 

[Stoneface]

Just to ask, has anyone tried Mountain Vapor's pre-built hemp heads?

For some questions:

1. Does hemp have any danger of actually igniting?
2. Does hemp wick well, and does it wick well with VG+Distilled Water juice? (Think Velvet Cloud Vapors, if anyone's tried them.)
3. The pre-wicked heads on MV look pretty dingy colored. Is he using twine or hemp cotton?

Thanks!

I haven't tried these, but MV appears to be using 12 strand in the photos.

Performance will really depend on how they prepare the wick before coiling (cleaning, boiling, etc). IMO it is more cost effective to wind your own coils for less than $4.50/head if you can.

This is the page I looked at: Vivi Nova Replacement wick

 

[GoodNews!]

Sadly, I just haven't got into the rebuilding side of vaping yet. I'm really hoping that the MV pre-built heads could solve some very bad taste/dry hit issues I've had with silica heads, and if that's the case, I may truly get into rebuilding to try out different materials.

For starters though, does anyone have any information on the few questions I asked? I'm trying to sort through the posts on this thread, but to be completely honest lol, it's a lot more of conversation than safety or performance information (mostly cleaning lol.)

 

[Stoneface]

Sadly, I just haven't got into the rebuilding side of vaping yet. I'm really hoping that the MV pre-built heads could solve some very bad taste/dry hit issues I've had with silica heads, and if that's the case, I may truly get into rebuilding to try out different materials.

For starters though, does anyone have any information on the few questions I asked? I'm trying to sort through the posts on this thread, but to be completely honest lol, it's a lot more of conversation than safety or performance information (mostly cleaning lol.)

I've read most of this thread, and it is mostly information on the hemp itself and doesn't deal much with pre-wound coils on the market. There is good information on this thread, though.

 

[GoodNews!]

Well, like some answers I think would apply to any type of hemp is say, wether twine vs. hemp cotton (if there is even a difference) has any type of color tendency over the other, or if there are any concerns with the possibility of hemp igniting, or, for better or worse, if MV's wicks simply look clean "enough" to you guys.

I'm not going to be fretting to much about taste as I'm simply going to test the coils out and see if, even at its worst, if hemp tastes better than silica, but I don't wanna be buying something that, to a pro's eye, doesn't look like a good product at all.

 

[BJ43]

Well, like some answers I think would apply to any type of hemp is say, wether twine vs. hemp cotton (if there is even a difference) has any type of color tendency over the other, or if there are any concerns with the possibility of hemp igniting, or, for better or worse, if MV's wicks simply look clean "enough" to you guys.

I'm not going to be fretting to much about taste as I'm simply going to test the coils out and see if, even at its worst, if hemp tastes better than silica, but I don't wanna be buying something that, to a pro's eye, doesn't look like a good product at all.

I think if you started a thread in PV topics and asked there, you may get some answers. On this thread every one is into rebuilding and probably have no interest in MV's head as it is just a copy of what we have all done quite a while back. I do not know what you mean by hemp cotton. A couple of years ago we tried some hemp cotton blends but they did not pan out that good. As long as the hemp is moist there is no problem with burning. Hemp is 10x more flame resistant than cotton. I started the original hemp usage with 12 strand 2mm natural hemp twine and it became very popular as the now hemp fiber that I found a few months ago. My recommendation is buy the MV head try it and when it goes, rebuild it with your own hemp.

Here is one of my Vivi heads with a Ao wick and hemp twine flavor wick.