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Kandypens Rubi as a Juul Alternative

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  1. umbre18

    umbre18 Full Member

    Dec 9, 2018
    Europe
    Hello fellow vapers,

    I plan to switch from the Juul to an open pod system. I ordered the Rubi from Kandypens for that purpose and ordered some juice in 35mg and 50mg strength. Now after reading some reviews I see some people wouldn't recommend the Rubi as a Juul alternative due to the airflow.

    So my question is: which pod system should I buy? The Smok infinix, the Vladdin RE or another one (I've been recommended these 2 and they seem quite good). Which system will most closely mimic the Juul?

    Thanks
     
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  2. Brewdawg1181

    Brewdawg1181 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 30, 2017
    Metro ATL
    I just won the HCigar Akso from HeavenGifts, and it's really nice. I like it more than the Juul. And I like the smaller form factor more than the Vaporesso Zero or Innokin EQ. You can order pre-filled pods, or empty pods to fill yourself. But it's brand new, and I'm not sure how many places you can find it, or the pods. I've never liked a non-tobacco before, but the Ice Mint is pretty great. The Innokin EQ is great as well, but a little larger, and has a fire button. Much more accessible pods though.
    https://www.heavengifts.com/product/Hcigar-Akso-Pod-Kit.html
     
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  3. BrotherBob

    BrotherBob ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2014
    Sunnyvale,CA,USA
    Could look at:
    Aspire Breeze Starter Kit - All-in-One
     
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  4. umbre18

    umbre18 Full Member

    Dec 9, 2018
    Europe
    Hey @Brewdawg1181 , thanks for the feedback. The Hcigar seems interesting but I want to wait and see some reviews before buying this new product. Concerning the Innokin EQ it seems like its a low ohm vaporizer. Would it not bee too much to vape 35mg of nicotine salts with it? Also I kinda prefer a discrete pen-style device (basically like a Juul :) )

    @BrotherBob the Aspire Breeze 2 has a 1 ohm coil designed for Nic salts. Have you tried it with high strength nic salts?
     
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  5. DawnBella

    DawnBella Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 22, 2011
    USA
    Avoid the RUBI. The pods have serious wicking issues. No matter how well you prep them. I've even let sit over night and still burnt puffs. I contacted the company and they sent a new batch of pods... Same issue.

    You may want to look at SMOK INFINIX or even SMOK FIT. Both are refillable pod systems sold with blanks.

    I have the INFINIX. The only issue, the flavor starts to be yucky by 3rd fill.
     
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  6. Brewdawg1181

    Brewdawg1181 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 30, 2017
    Metro ATL
    I don't know about it being classified as low-ohm, and what that would mean to you. I do mtl, but use .58 on my rta's at 8.5W.

    I will say that the EQ is a much more open draw, and more similar to rta's. The Akso is a very tight draw, and very similar to the Juul. If you want something like a Juul, that you can use your own juice on, it could be for you.

    I don't think anyone can really tell you what nic level would work for you. But since you probably get a bigger hit on the EQ, you could use lower nic on it than you would the Juul or Akso.
     
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  7. Brewdawg1181

    Brewdawg1181 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 30, 2017
    Metro ATL
    Yeah, I really liked the Infinix - my son had one, and I thought it gave a much better hit than Juul. But Smoke has a pretty lousy QC rep....and right on cue, my son's Infinix crapped out in a matter of weeks. He's been using the same Juul for months now.
     
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  8. Cactus Breath

    Cactus Breath Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 6, 2013
    AZ
    A recommendation I haven't seen yet - the Suorin Vagon. Simple to use, refillable, nice airflow and designed to work with nic salts, pods are inexpensive. I've had one for a week, and like it enough that I just ordered a second one (along with a few spare pods). I'm using it with 50mg juice and pleased enough with the taste and vapor output. My other / main vape is a Geekvape Aegis with a TFV8 Big Baby Beast tank, but it's nice to have something smaller and more discreet when the need arises.

    I previously used the Aspire Breeze 2, and although I liked it well enough, two of them broke on me. The plastic tabs that hold the pod in place are cheap and easily broken, and when they break there's nothing to hold the pod in place so it won't fire anymore, rendering the whole device junk. I tossed both my broken ones the day I bought the Vagon.

    The Vagon has a nice enough airflow that you can hit it mouth to lung or direct inhale (deep lung), although the DL hit is a bit tight. My first pod lasted about a week/10 refills, but I was hitting it pretty hard and constant.
     
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  9. umbre18

    umbre18 Full Member

    Dec 9, 2018
    Europe
    Thanks for the advice. I have already bought it so I will try it and let you know if it works out for me but I've read other people complaining about the issue of burnt puffs. I'll definitely buy another pod system or two as an insurance. The infinix seems like an all round workhorse that seems pretty much ok according to reviews I've read.
     
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  10. umbre18

    umbre18 Full Member

    Dec 9, 2018
    Europe
    Thanks for the explanation ! I thought that when vaping high concentration nic salts you had to go for devices of 1.3+ ohms because the sellers often state that "these products are not for sub-ohm devices". Maybe I misunderstood that and weaker devices are ok.
     
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  11. Skunk!

    Skunk! Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 25, 2014
    Las Vegas
    I was using an Aspire Cobble for a while and I liked it. I don't know the resistance on it but I used it for salts and it worked quite well. I just got an Orion which I really like. It is loose mtl to dl. I use the .5 coils with 30mg. salts.
     
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  12. spaceman84

    spaceman84 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 17, 2013
    North Carolina
    Personally the original Breeze with the 0.6ohm coil sounds like what you want. You would want to use lower strength nic salt juice because it puts out big clouds for a small device.

    Don't buy the hype on the Breeze 2 1.0ohm nic salt coils. They're the same as the other coils just different resistance. Manufacturers don't like to sell subohm coils "for use with nic salts".
     
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  13. EverythingEvil

    EverythingEvil Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 26, 2014
    Grand Junction, Co
    I kind of understand their reasoning. I was pretty sceptical of the orion with its low resistance coils. I don't normally ever go below .4 even on DL builds. I guess I just assumed a .25 ohm coil would about blow your head of with high nic juice.
     
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  14. Brewdawg1181

    Brewdawg1181 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 30, 2017
    Metro ATL
    Yeah, the coil and atty don't know whether it's nic salts or freebase. Kind of just a volume thing. You're right- I wouldn't want to DL at .25 with 50mg salts!
     
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  15. gerrymi

    gerrymi Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jul 12, 2013
    The 'Burgh, PA.
    Although I'm QUITE satisfied with my Gobys for Out and About...I would be interested in, at least, trying a Pod system with REFILLABLE pods...

    My problem, so far, is that the Pods that look the most interesting...all have turned out to have Direct Voltage...(where the Voltage drops as the battery strength drops)…

    (I'd only be interested in a Constant Voltage Pod...where the Voltage stays constant from start to when the battery stops working)…

    The Direct Voltage Pods I've looked into...and mentally rejected...are the Aspire Breeze-2, Suorin Vagon, Amnis and Pico Baby (very small but not really a Pod)…

    ..
     
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  16. NeonH1

    NeonH1 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 11, 2018
    The justfog minifit maintains a constant voltage until the battery is exhausted.
     
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  17. gerrymi

    gerrymi Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jul 12, 2013
    The 'Burgh, PA.
    Thanx Neon...WILL check it out...:thumbs:

    EDIT: Found this...Justfog Minifit

    ..
     
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  18. Brewdawg1181

    Brewdawg1181 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 30, 2017
    Metro ATL
    Are you sure about that Gerry? I'd been assuming pretty much all regulated devices these days were constant. But in pods, I've only tried Infinix, Zero, IQ, Juul, and Akso.
     
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  19. United States

    United States Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 17, 2018
    RVA
    Hah,

    Funny how the gubment wants to crack down on teen Juul use. Please don't whisper the name "candy pen" as a Juul alternative close to a teenager.
     
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  20. gerrymi

    gerrymi Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jul 12, 2013
    The 'Burgh, PA.
    Well Brew...as I've been "exploring" Pods...I realized that a Direct Voltage Pod would NOT fit my vaping style...and that I'd only be happy with a Constant Voltage Pod...

    To my list of (rejected) Direct Voltage Pods...Aspire Breeze-2, Suorin Vagon, Amnis and Pico Baby...I've just added the Exceed Edge...

    ..
     
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