And the reason it can't be clearer is because what dr g said is100% wrong. Evolv did not change the definition of power. It means the same thing on the DNA40 as it always has.
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And the reason it can't be clearer is because what dr g said is100% wrong. Evolv did not change the definition of power. It means the same thing on the DNA40 as it always has.
I am beginning to think English is not the first language of dr g or something??? Several of his posts come off as rude and very matter of fact.
I am not really sure, but exchanges with him remind me of the days working with folks in the oil fields that were from other countries. English was not their first language and they sounded rude as well, especially in email.
And I have yet to see any credentials listed to show he has any special knowledge that people should put any weight in his statements....
These things did not come with instruction manuals so I am operating it with reasoning and 30 plus years experience repairing electronics...
But at the end of the day, a watt is a watt is a watt... And if someone is redefining a watt, well they are simply wrong...
Now I'm wondering if you have actually used a DNA40. Automatic dynamic power control is an entirely new ballgame from the fixed power we used before. Nobody -- nobody -- that has ever used a DNA40 can say watts work the same way. It's apparent from the first draw.
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Not really necessary now, is it?
I agree with the above.
This last bit is still wrong. "Watts" continue to work the same way. That is, power means exactly the same thing it did before. The fact that it can scale down does not change that meaning.
I understand what you wanted to say now, but you're not saying it right. And it doesn't help your cause to be rude when people ask nicely for clarification.
Actually it is stated in the exact same terminology and context as the original post it was responding to. The OP said he is a "low wattage user" to which I replied "Wattage does not mean the same thing in a temperature controlled application."
You as outside observers may have missed that, but it is incumbent on you to understand the conversation you enter into. What I said is concise and as you note, completely correct.
BTW it should be noted that the only meaningful way that a value is attached to wattage in fixed power vaping is by the board setting, so your objections are disingenuous as well.
No, it means that you can boil water with a blowtorch at 3000 degrees, a campfire at 1500 degrees, or a stovetop burner at 600 degrees.
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I guess you'll see what you want to. But for the record, I said I understood what you were TRYING to say. What you actually said is still wrong, or at the very least nonsensical.
I hope you won't think I'm being disingenuous when I say: I don't really understand your point here.
When someone says watts or wattage in fixed power VW vaping, they mean the wattage setting on their mod. There is no other way watts are measured or specified per se.
Wattage means precisely the same thing regardless of application, the application is not the same between temp protected and variable wattage, but a watt is still a watt.
This is the context of a lot of the posting I am seeing on here, I think there is a language barrier happening and something is being lost in translation...
That analogy makes no sense, water boils at 212F regardless. This thread is about Kanger tanks, in which juice vaporizes at relatively the same temperature as any other tank. Trying to make people believe different tanks require drastically different temps is ridiculous.
You've been telling people since the beginning of this thread that trying to fool refinement by detaching/reattaching is "not proper operation and technically incorrect function". Instead, you tell them that there's nothing wrong with refinement and everyone should to turn up the temperature...by 100 degrees! I'm not sure why you think this is proper function over fooling refinement, even Evolv understands there are refinement issues with some devices, otherwise they wouldn't have modified their latest version with the option to turn it off. (yeah, yeah, we know, you think that was done to appease Busardo and all the rest of us crybabies who would like to have an accurate temperature at the coil)
As an Evolv Fanboi I would think this thread would be perfect for you. These coils don't always work properly with this board, period. It's not Evolvs' fault, and there is a work-around, so it should be a win-win for you instead of yet another recruitment thread for the ever growing dr g ignore list.
Hey BNEAT..... I've not had issue with these coils yet in my nano but you mentioned a "work around". This interests me as I've not read about a work-around... guess I missed that... could you fill me in or give a link? THX
I don't have one of these tanks, I joined this thread to decide if I wanted one (I have a soft spot for Kanger stuff) The work around is to turn up the temperature. At least that's what I'm understanding.
I'm enjoying the nano.... ya ought to try one....with the nickel coils.... I've been happy at 420/430 F at 17 watts.... no need for me to turn up the temp/wattage or need a work-around... the coil I'm vaping on now refined to 0.13 ohms and has been great for over a week now...
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Thinking about it. I want a really small DNA40 device and a cheap small topper for out-and-about duty (I cant afford another Flask if I mess this one up) but I'll probably wait a little long. Especially after hearing that Brandon is heading to China to help with R&D....at least that's what I hope he's doing.
The nano will be just right for the "stealthy" dna25 I'm gonna build next (when I get time)... smallest mod I've ever built was the "stealthy dna20/30's" and since battery options (C rating) matter (and limit choices) in small mods the DNA25 just will work as the minimum amperage for the 25's is 10 amps....
Evolv understands there are refinement issues with some devices, otherwise they wouldn't have modified their latest version with the option to turn it off. (yeah, yeah, we know, you think that was done to appease Busardo and all the rest of us crybabies who would like to have an accurate temperature at the coil)
How do you turn it off? I am hoping my brand new Vapor Shark's has the latest upgrades...
Sorry, I goofed the quote...
How do you turn it off? I am hoping my brand new Vapor Shark's has the latest upgrades...
Sorry, I goofed the quote...
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Didn't I read ya just got your rDNA like yesterday? Vapor Shark announced the change starting March 20, 2014... If so I'd be surprised if it had the newest board unless you ordered it from them after March 20.... hold up/down buttons at the same time..
I figured it out, push + & - while unlocked, used to lock the power....
So I got a DNA that does not have this and an rDNA that does... Guess I'll keep the drippers on the little one....
Yep, Vapor Shark really should put a darn manual in these things or at least on their website...
Then again, if they did they would have to constantly update it as Evolv keeps changing things...
Just to be clear, refinement is a wonderful thing when it's used with a topper that allows it to work properly. My K4 coil makes decent vapor even when it's gunked up really badly. No more having to turn up the power like the old days.
at least I think refinement has something to do with that...maybe it's all in my head
at least I think refinement has something to do with that...maybe it's all in my head
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