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That is not the case anymore with color coding. The cleito coils orange was kanthal and black ss.
Well, ya always gotta have someone screw everyone else up. LOL Notice I did not say ALL. Just the ones that want to play nice. Anyway, I long since have left stock coils behind(with the exception of the eGo titanium CLR coils).

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You might try the RBA with the STM. I found they vaped better than the drop in coils.
Yes they do and then you can pick and choose the wire you like best.And they are very easy to build and wick. Good stuff.

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I flirted around with the RBA- wicking was hit or miss and I didn't want to put the shell in my drillpress and make the intake hole a more reasonable size as I read others had done. Not that it is an option but smoking was easier than vaping, lol. Thank you
There is no need to make anything bigger. All 3 of the kanger rba's work extremely well. Wicking those rba's are the easiest of all. As long as you don't stuff so much in it can't get any air flow you should be good to go. Have you viewed any you tube videos?
 

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Yes I did look at some YouTube videos on it but that was months ago, I may have to revisit but I would need to get a spare one waiting in the wings. I also looked at YouTube vids of rebuilding the stock ones which were pretty bad and didn't result in removing the coil intact. I have built several jigs at this point for the factory coils as well as a wood guide with 15 degree angles on it that I can put the Japanese cotton in and it will be the correct width and length every time to wrap around the coil and fill the space inside of the shell without overstuffing it. Thanks!
 

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There is no need to make anything bigger. All 3 of the kanger rba's work extremely well. Wicking those rba's are the easiest of all. As long as you don't stuff so much in it can't get any air flow you should be good to go. Have you viewed any you tube videos?

If you're not makin' it bigger, you're not doin' it right. ;)

Good luck. :)

p.s. You're right about stifling air flow.
p.s.s. Love that chunky wickin at Popeye's.

 
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If you're not makin' it bigger, you're not doin' it right. ;)

Good luck. :)

p.s. You're right about stifling air flow.
p.s.s. Love that chunky wickin at Popeye's.

But, ..but... bu......
My doing it 'wrong' tastes so good. LOL Honestly tho, I bought into the 'need' to make the smaller hole bigger so I always tried to stay with the ones that have the bigger openings. I also found(while going through my stash) a couple of the original rba, the ones that have openings at the bottom. So I tested them all. They all worked and tasted great. Did not notice any air flow reduction, nor did I notice any differences in taste. If the smaller opening has any resistance, it is not noticeable. YMMV. And they all do the job of keeping me happy and off cigarettes. That, to me, is the real winner. Whether or not I wick them identically or close to someone elses' expectation is of no consequence to me. I would rather be vaping happily away instead of beating myself up over a half of a mm to the left or right.

This is just my opinion and what makes me happy. It is not geared towards anyone elses' way to do things and what makes them happy.

p.s. Always love your post.....
p.s.s and bruce is the bomb. LMAO
 

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But, ..but... bu......
My doing it 'wrong' tastes so good. LOL Honestly tho, I bought into the 'need' to make the smaller hole bigger so I always tried to stay with the ones that have the bigger openings. I also found(while going through my stash) a couple of the original rba, the ones that have openings at the bottom. So I tested them all. They all worked and tasted great. Did not notice any air flow reduction, nor did I notice any differences in taste. If the smaller opening has any resistance, it is not noticeable. YMMV. And they all do the job of keeping me happy and off cigarettes. That, to me, is the real winner. Whether or not I wick them identically or close to someone elses' expectation is of no consequence to me. I would rather be vaping happily away instead of beating myself up over a half of a mm to the left or right.

This is just my opinion and what makes me happy. It is not geared towards anyone elses' way to do things and what makes them happy.

p.s. Always love your post.....
p.s.s and bruce is the bomb. LMAO

Yer right. Don't cotton into half-full optimism. Just enough is always good. Great thing about rebuilding is you don't have to settle. Did you notice the bonnet bottoms on each end of the coil in the pic?Always enough cotton and long enough to avoid exposing top turns due to gravity sag when the wick gets wet. Best way to avoid the burny's. So more is betta in my book.

I'd rather see diffusion (or blowin up the cloud) by way of increased air flow than thinning a wick or making the juice flow lean. The latter really needs to match the watts or you can cook the juice or vape output on the low or high side of power. So more wick, more likey.

Often doubt the wisdom or sanity of some who'd insist variable mods are infinitely variable. No way gettin around building for the device. And no factory solution's gonna ever nail it outta the box for most of us.

Good luck. :)
 
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Yer right. Don't cotton into half-full optimism. Just enough is always good. Great thing about rebuilding is you don't have to settle. Did you notice the bonnet bottoms on each end of the coil in the pic?Always enough cotton and long enough to avoid exposing top turns due to gravity sag when the wick gets wet. Best way to avoid the burny's. So more is betta in my book.

I'd rather see diffusion (or blowin up the cloud) by way of increased air flow than thinning a wick or making the juice flow lean. The latter really needs to match the watts or you can cook the juice or vape output on the low or high side of power. More wick, more likey.

Often doubt the wisdom or sanity of some who'd insist variable mods are infinitely variable. No way gettin around building for the device. And no factory solution's gonna ever nail it outta the box for most of us.

Good luck. :)
Well, I never did look that close until now. My first thought? My coils often look like that on the ends. By golly, did sumthin right and didn't even know it. LOL

I am glad you take the time to teach others. It shows dedication to the cause. But lots of peeps are just happy to have found something they can do(while saving a little $) and it tastes great. I save my precision for my DIY recipes. It is a work in progress.

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p.s....chunky wickin...at Popeyes'

p.s.s. Really?????? LMAO
 

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Well, I never did look that close until now. My first thought? My coils often look like that on the ends. By golly, did sumthin right and didn't even know it. LOL

I am glad you take the time to teach others. It shows dedication to the cause. But lots of peeps are just happy to have found something they can do(while saving a little $) and it tastes great. I save my precision for my DIY recipes. It is a work in progress.

:)

p.s....chunky wickin...at Popeyes'

p.s.s. Really?????? LMAO


Nahh, jus funnin. I don't do fast much. I'll settle for doin it right, the first time. Too lazy to repeat myself (except on this forum). LOL

Really, you said it right. Main thing I've been talkin about for 5 years is simply this…observe!

Good luck. :)
 

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Go vertical. Better airflow.
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What kind of wicking do you use?

Cotton, 2 little pieces.
Use a needle to push it between the posts and coil, under the negative wire, and around the deck. Not too heavy around the holes.

I install it horizontal and twist it negative up. Push the drill bit into the air hole while I'm adjusting the coils and packing the cotton.

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Cotton, 2 little pieces.
Use a needle to push it between the posts and coil, under the negative wire, and around the deck. Not too heavy around the holes.

I install it horizontal and twist it negative up. Push the drill bit into the air hole while I'm adjusting the coils and packing the cotton.

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Do you have any Leaking Issues with this type of Wicking?
 

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Do you have any Leaking Issues with this type of Wicking?

If I don't get it packed around the base or go too light around the holes.
Too heavy around the holes in the barrel and it doesnt' feed enough. It's a balance like usual.

I'd say I'm less likely to leak this way than horizontal but I've had them pour.
 

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If I don't get it packed around the base or go too light around the holes.
Too heavy around the holes in the barrel and it doesnt' feed enough. It's a balance like usual.

I'd say I'm less likely to leak this way than horizontal but I've had them pour.

Cool.

Might just have to put that on my RDPTD List.
 
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If you're not makin' it bigger, you're not doin' it right. ;)

I got several kits that Healthcabin was fire-sailing for 6 bucks a while back. They all had RBA's with the smaller holes, don't see how smaller hole is better but whatever. I matched a bit to the larger hole and drilled them all out, removed the burrs and they work just fine. Been building STM for several years so I got the rayon wicking down to a science.
I also have one of the old RBA's with the juice channel. Took a triangular file and made the slot deeper and wider then threw a nasty subohm build and it handled it nicely.
Vaping the 1.4Ω 29/34 clapton at 14 watts, I only need 1/3 airflow or the vape has a hint of burnt taste.
Breaking the RBA down to bits with every clean and rebuild I find old juice under the deck peek insulator, burnt crusties down the airflow tube and since the pin is out shine it up with some 320 sandpaper. It has stopped the weird funky taste that happens that ruins a rewicking, the first several vapes had a burnt taste that I determined to be inside the airflow tube that no amount of rinsing removed. I twist up some paper towel, couple drops of alcohol and pushing down with pointy tweezers...you'll surprise yourself what comes out of a supposedly cleaned RBA airflow tube.
 

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I got several kits that Healthcabin was fire-sailing for 6 bucks a while back. They all had RBA's with the smaller holes, don't see how smaller hole is better but whatever. I matched a bit to the larger hole and drilled them all out, removed the burrs and they work just fine. Been building STM for several years so I got the rayon wicking down to a science.
I also have one of the old RBA's with the juice channel. Took a triangular file and made the slot deeper and wider then threw a nasty subohm build and it handled it nicely.
Vaping the 1.4Ω 29/34 clapton at 14 watts, I only need 1/3 airflow or the vape has a hint of burnt taste.
Breaking the RBA down to bits with every clean and rebuild I find old juice under the deck peek insulator, burnt crusties down the airflow tube and since the pin is out shine it up with some 320 sandpaper. It has stopped the weird funky taste that happens that ruins a rewicking, the first several vapes had a burnt taste that I determined to be inside the airflow tube that no amount of rinsing removed. I twist up some paper towel, couple drops of alcohol and pushing down with pointy tweezers...you'll surprise yourself what comes out of a supposedly cleaned RBA airflow tube.

Yeah, you gotta watch the buildup under both insulators on the ST. It can kinda creep up on ya. They're not perfect if you look close. I'm a big fan of baking soda toothpaste and a plain old Q-tip. Not too abrasive on SS and doesn't leave much in the way of residue if you rinse with one of those mini-brushes. I can get way inside the drilled out air-holes in the pin (which I've drilled out as well) with the small ones.

So how often? Well for me with tabs it's prolly almost every other clean-and-fill as I do all too easily pick up on changes in the vape. But it's well worth the price in the few minutes of extra time for maintaining a consistency of flavor performance. At least to me with my fickle taste buds.

Periodically I take a fine metal file to the RBA surfaces as well as insulator components before they stain too bad. I find the multi-grit microfiber acrylic nail files make short work of polishing up all this stuff. A few well organized minutes and most any tank can vape like new out of the box. Then again this may sound like overkill 'less you're a tab vaper but some of you may be surprised.

Good luck. :)
 

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Yeah, you gotta watch the buildup under both insulators on the ST. It can kinda creep up on ya. They're not perfect if you look close. I'm a big fan of baking soda toothpaste and a plain old Q-tip. Not too abrasive on SS and doesn't leave much in the way of residue if you rinse with one of those mini-brushes. I can get way inside the drilled out air-holes in the pin (which I've drilled out as well) with the small ones.

So how often? Well for me with tabs it's prolly almost every other clean-and-fill as I do all too easily pick up on changes in the vape. But it's well worth the price in the few minutes of extra time for maintaining a consistency of flavor performance. At least to me with my fickle taste buds.

Periodically I take a fine metal file to the RBA surfaces as well as insulator components before they stain too bad. I find the multi-grit microfiber acrylic nail files make short work of polishing up all this stuff. A few well organized minutes and most any tank can vape like new out of the box. Then again this may sound like overkill 'less you're a tab vaper but some of you may be surprised.

Good luck. :)
Ok I'll bite. Just what is a 'tab vaper? Do you mean a tobacco ?
 
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