Kayfun LITE - Part 2

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Pinggolfer

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I meant customs if i bought from the eu

Sorry about the confusuon.

I'm referring to purchases from Cloud9 in the UK.

There is a VAT charge which is charged for purchases made in the EU. It shows on the checkout cart but is dropped when a USA address is used to ship to. I bought my first kayfun from Intaste and it cost me about $79.00 shipped. You can check with Bronze about that sale.

My cost was 56.39. Not sure what shipping was, have to check with my secretary. There was mention of some special pricing thing going on; someone else was selling for 56.00 but svoemesto may have influenced it too, sorry, I just don't know for sure.

There are no new svoemesto Kayfun Lite V2 being sold for $56.39. 56.39 euro is not $56.39 US dollars and then add on shipping.

RB is right as he is one person I know who would never buy a fake. Vapinart is a listed SvoeMesto dealer so buying from them is safe and easy.

I'm sure you can not order from SvoeMesto as the country list they have does not include the USA. They use inTaste to ship to the US from Germany. So I'm totally confused as to how @ErnieKim ordered from SvoeMesto. @raitizz would have the answer on that question.
 
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There are no new SvoeMesto Kayfun Lite V2 being sold for $56.39. 56.39 euro is not $56.39 US dollars and then add on shipping.

Today's price at intaste is $52.61 (VAT deducted). Dollah, not Eurooo. $70.86 shipped (15 eur shipping).

ErnieKim lives in FL, so they would have to pay somewhere in the 6.5 to 8 percent range for sales tax on Vapinart's price. $91.49 shipped (cheapest method) including 7% tax.

Eye'zz got no skins in game. Saul good by me. And I'm sure they are both excellent vendors. Just sayin'.
 

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Today's price at intaste is $52.61 (VAT deducted). Dollah, not Eurooo. $70.86 shipped (15 eur shipping).

ErnieKim lives in FL, so they would have to pay somewhere in the 6.5 to 8 percent range for sales tax on Vapinart's price. $91.49 shipped (cheapest method) including 7% tax.

Eye'zz got no skins in game. Saul good by me. And I'm sure they are both excellent vendors. Just sayin'.

ErnieKim could get it from VapinArt for $70 (they matched Vaperev's price for me), so with shipping and tax to the same area I live cost me $80 total. I got it in two days and have a local dealer to deal with if there are any issues. To me, it would be worth the extra $10 to get it locally. And I'm supporting the US economy by buying from a dealer in the US. Just sayin'
 
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Hey, me, I'd just get an EHPro for somewhere about $25, and get the same quality. But that's just me. I'm not suggesting anyone else support high quality Asian manufacturing.

Support the US Trade Deficit either way. It's all good, man.
 

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I'm sure you can not order from SvoeMesto as the country list they have does not include the USA. They use inTaste to ship to the US from Germany. So I'm totally confused as to how @ErnieKim ordered from SvoeMesto. @raitizz would have the answer on that question.

Yes, you can't. @ErnieKim got the list of vendors from SM, not the KFL itself.

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Authorized sellers have agreements with Manufacturers as to the prices they can charge. This can work to the buyers advantage but a few factors need to be looked at; 1) current exchange rates, 2) cost of shipping from a given country 3) duty charges from a given country 4) how the item is paid for (don't use credit cards, they overcharge.

If you keep an eye on these factors, you can get really good deals on imports. Just try it, you'll see.

It's not cook-book though, these factors change daily and you need to stay on top of them.

The final thing is keeping the manufacturer copied on your correspondence; keeps everyone on their toes. I've used this strategy and gotten very good deals on items; the global economy is fantastic if you learn to use it to your advantage. In this case, the seller threw in free shipping. They usually do this when you keep your transaction highly visible.

So After checking back, I got my Authentic for ~55 dollars after throwing in one final discount code. I'm not saying that going through these efforts to get a good price on something Is for everyone, some might say it's a pain in the tush, but I kind of enjoy it and I'm not afraid to deal with the international market.

The best news is tha Svoemesto reminded me that we will be able to buy directly from them very soon, THEN we will see some REALLY good deals.
 
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Authorized sellers have agreements with Manufacturers as to the prices they can charge. This can work to the buyers advantage but a few factors need to be looked at; 1) current exchange rates, 2) cost of shipping from a given country 3) duty charges from a given country 4) how the item is paid for (don't use credit cards, they overcharge.

If you keep an eye on these factors, you can get really good deals on imports. Just try it, you'll see.

It's not cook-book though, these factors change daily and you need to stay on top of them.

The final thing is keeping the manufacturer copied on your correspondence; keeps everyone on their toes. I've used this strategy and gotten very good deals on items; the global economy is fantastic if you learn to use it to your advantage. In this case, the seller threw in free shipping. They usually do this when you keep your transaction highly visible.

So After checking back, I got my Authentic for ~55 dollars after throwing in one final discount code. I'm not saying that going through these efforts to get a good price on something Is for everyone, some might say it's a pain in the tush, but I kind of enjoy it and I'm not afraid to deal with the international market.

The best news is tha Svoemesto reminded me that we will be able to buy directly from them very soon, THEN we will see some REALLY good deals.

For a few dollars more, I'll just stick with buying from authorized suppliers here in the US. Much Much Much simpler to me. See what I want. Add to basket. Checkout. Get it in a few days. And have a local company to deal with should I have an issue.

No offense, but what you've gone through to save a few $$ (if you actually saved much) is just too much for my pea-sized brain.
 
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No kidding!! We never would have known!!!

And what do you get when you convert that to US Dollah? And then what do you get when you remove the 19% VAT?

About 50 bucks?

Then get someone with trade factors that work more in your personal favor and take them up on their price matching offers and it gets even better! That's international trade for you, you just need to work it in your favor.
 
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About 50 bucks?

Then get someone with trade factors that work more in your personal favor and take them up on their price matching offers and it gets even better! That's international trade for you, you just need to work it in your favor.

Nope, 65,42 EUR would it be excl. VAT, shipped to US, that makes around 71,31 USD.

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About 50 bucks?

Then get someone with trade factors that work more in your personal favor and take them up on their price matching offers and it gets even better! That's international trade for you, you just need to work it in your favor.

As Raitizz just pointed out it's about $71.30 US. Your math is not what you think it is. Which again begs the question, why not just get it from VapinArt in Miami. I know you think all the time and effort you put into this is going to pay some huge dividend, but it's not. Other than making you think you got some superior deal. Which you clearly didn't. Still if this was fun for you and you're happy, that's really all that matters, right? ;)
 
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As Raitizz just pointed out it's about $71.30 US. Your math is not what you think it is. Which again begs the question, why not just get it from VapinArt in Miami. I know you think all the time and effort you put into this is going to pay some huge dividend, but it's not. Other than making you think you got some superior deal. Which you clearly didn't. Still if this was fun for you and you're happy, that's really all that matters, right? ;)
About 23% savings. That's considerable.

Maybe you can work Vapinart down a bit, but that takes time and effort, too. And maybe spends your good karma from the vendor if you do need additional service from them.
 
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