Kayfun lite plus black clone edition

[LReyes66]

Imade my channels deeper and no more dry hits.

im hoping my v2 clone coming soon doesnt have it cause I dont have a dremel only a drill

Unfortunately, the most impt thing to me is the real adjustable 510 connection (I'm .... about my toppers sitting flush). Seems like the black edition is the only one with it


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apparently the tobeco v2 has the 510 connection and pretty much same features as the black edition, ordered it off 101vape since im taking a forum members word that the one on 101vape is indeed the v2. Def will need adjustable 510 since I had to unscrew my russians a little out for it to make connection with my provari and lokiring

 

[TheKiwi]

im hoping my v2 clone coming soon doesnt have it cause I dont have a dremel only a drill



apparently the tobeco v2 has the 510 connection and pretty much same features as the black edition, ordered it off 101vape since im taking a forum members word that the one on 101vape is indeed the v2. Def will need adjustable 510 since I had to unscrew my russians a little out for it to make connection with my provari and lokiring

Hopefully. Alotta the clones claim to have adjustable 510 connection. However because it's one single centre post that goes from the 510 post to the deck, there's only maybe 1mm to 2mm of adjustment. The black edition and authentic russian on the other hand has a centre post that's a separate from the deck screw. That's gold


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[h8louzn]

Isn't the silver editon the same thing? With just a eBay seller adding silver edition?

I plan on taking the airflow control screw all the way out... Guess that will cause a vacuum issue

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I guess I should have said that with 100% vg I need all the vacuum I can get to draw the thick juice up the channels. If I made the channel deeper I could take out the air screw. air control not only controls the air but also juice control as well.. the tighter the draw the more juice gets pulled into the chamber. Hope that makes sense!

 

[zipflint]

Thanks much for clearing that up for me!

yes the EHpro has deeper channels just like the real one heres a link to the comparing thread by Spazmelda

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ms/515492-side-side-pics-kfl-ehpro-clone.html

 

[BecknCO]

I don't have the black edition from ebay, but I did get the silver edition (also from ebay - seller was sleepyhollowvapes/turner something). It was $10 cheaper ($40 shipped), the juice channels are deep enough it seems, and it definitely has an adjustable 510 screw that is separate from the airflow pin and screws into it. Threads are near perfect too.

 

[TheKiwi]

I don't have the black edition from ebay, but I did get the silver edition (also from ebay - seller was sleepyhollowvapes/turner something). It was $10 cheaper ($40 shipped), the juice channels are deep enough it seems, and it definitely has an adjustable 510 screw that is separate from the airflow pin and screws into it. Threads are near perfect too.

Any chance you could PM me the link plzzZzz


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[paladinx]

I really been trying to get into the Kayfun.. I first bought an eh pro kayfun lite clone. I didn't like it at all.. very burny, harsh wasn't vaping right.. I sent it to someone who supposedly has experience with a real one, and he told me the clones juice channels were too shallow.. So than i went to buy a 91 percent.. russian... Got that.. didn't like how much money i spent on it.. was expected an awesome vape.. and that too was kind of harsh and burny. I didn't give it much of a try i just wanted to sell it asap to get my money back.. Than after hearing people brag about the kayfun so much I got a tobecco lite plus clone.. Same thing.. harsh burny hits that I didn't care for. tried more cotton less cotton.. Couldn't get the thing to give me a good smooth hit. was very burny and irritating without actually tasting burnt. I don't know what to do. I gave it away to my cousin. Is there a clone that is just as good as the original out there or a safer bet? Is it worth getting the original.. and tinkering with it till you like it. I am just thinking like maybe i don't like the kayfun style period. I really would love to get it to work right or get the right model without getting raped.. I would get the nano kit for it for sure, I like smaller devices.. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[mnementh666]

What kind of coils were you making? What ohm level? Which device was it on and what voltage. I haven't had any issues with either of my clones that can't be traced back to me screwing up. You may just have bad luck with the devices though.

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[TheKiwi]

Funny. That's my experience too. Sorta. Except for me, I generally take maybe 5-10 primer puffs at low voltages to "break it in", and it's gold afterwards. I honestly have no firm basis for the break in and primer puffs, but it just works for me somehow. YMMV


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[Bill3753]

Got mine today. COMPLETELY disassembled it, cleaned and soaked it.

Wrapped a 1.4 micro and a cotton wick. Trimmed the wick till it was just barely touching the base with the cotton fluffed out. Wetted it with juice, put the top cone on and test hit it. Then fully assembled it, tested the air flow, adjusted the center pin, filled it and put it on my polished provari mini. 10 watts and its PERFECT vaping.

Zero experience with anything Kayfun related here, so 100% happy with it. Seems very well built and I already want another. Flavor is closest to dripping I've ever had from a tank and far far superior to my Genesis experiences.

 

[Bill3753]

My crappy micro and wick set up, then the finished product on my Provari. Couldn't be happier.

 

[Tommy Aces]

There seems to be an obsession in recent pages of this thread with the depth of juice channels on these Kayfun clones.

Yes, obviously if there are no juice channels at all, or they are almost non existent then you will run into some wicking problems. However, I think folks overstate the importance of the channels themselves. What really matters are that there are channels and that there is enough depth where they meet up with the chimney for the vacuum to pull juice into the chamber.

As I've said before, I have multiple authentic KFL+s and R91s as well as multiple Black Editions. There is a visual difference In the depth of the juice channels on the Black Edition vs the authentics. HOWEVER, there is no difference in the way they vape for me, even when running a pretty viscous 20/80 DIY liquid (no water or alcohol added). Mind you I'm run mine with the AFC wide open as well.

I can't personally speak to running a liquid with a higher VG content than 80%, but for the vast majority of people having problems (unless maybe you're using 100% VG) they're problems likely have more to do with build/wicking than with the depth of juice channels.

I'd be very leery of buying a clone that's advertised as having "deepened" juice channels. SvoeMesto (applicable to the makers of the Russian as well) clearly spent a lot of time and money engendering all aspects of the Kayfun line to perform as well as possible. Everything on the originals is machined to precision, including the juice channels. It's clear to me that the calculation by the Chinese is that since they are mass producing these clones not exactly using precision machining and that you can get away with slightly shallower channels, that is is better to err on the side of using a shallower channel than spec a deeper channel and have devices that constantly flood and pour juice everywhere.

If you are that concerned with the depth of the juice channels, I wouldn't count on a Chinese clone that has them to not just flood, and flood, and flood because they ended up being too deep and open. Instead, if this is really a big concern, go out and buy an authentic KFL+ or R91. Sure, it'll cost 2-3x more than the clones, but you won't have to worry about juice channels being too deep or shallow for your liking.

 

[HughDaHand]

The main reason I was worried about the juice channels was the fact that one of my black editions would not feed juice at all. The main problem was the fact that the juice channel under the chimney was not cut deep enough, so when you screwed the chimney on it totally blocked off the juice flow. This was a big problem for me as I don't like the taste of burnt cotton. This was with my DIY 70pg/30vg juice, far from being to thick. After fixing the juice channel it now works great, it was not the build in my case. I just want the info out there in case anyone else is having this problem. The other one I bought worked great from the start and these are now my new favorite tanks and I have started a fund to get some real SvoeMesto versions.

 

[TheKiwi]

There seems to be an obsession in recent pages of this thread with the depth of juice channels on these Kayfun clones.

Yes, obviously if there are no juice channels at all, or they are almost non existent then you will run into some wicking problems. However, I think folks overstate the importance of the channels themselves. What really matters are that there are channels and that there is enough depth where they meet up with the chimney for the vacuum to pull juice into the chamber.

As I've said before, I have multiple authentic KFL+s and R91s as well as multiple Black Editions. There is a visual difference In the depth of the juice channels on the Black Edition vs the authentics. HOWEVER, there is no difference in the way they vape for me, even when running a pretty viscous 20/80 DIY liquid (no water or alcohol added). Mind you I'm run mine with the AFC wide open as well.

I can't personally speak to running a liquid with a higher VG content than 80%, but for the vast majority of people having problems (unless maybe you're using 100% VG) they're problems likely have more to do with build/wicking than with the depth of juice channels.

I'd be very leery of buying a clone that's advertised as having "deepened" juice channels. SvoeMesto (applicable to the makers of the Russian as well) clearly spent a lot of time and money engendering all aspects of the Kayfun line to perform as well as possible. Everything on the originals is machined to precision, including the juice channels. It's clear to me that the calculation by the Chinese is that since they are mass producing these clones not exactly using precision machining and that you can get away with slightly shallower channels, that is is better to err on the side of using a shallower channel than spec a deeper channel and have devices that constantly flood and pour juice everywhere.

If you are that concerned with the depth of the juice channels, I wouldn't count on a Chinese clone that has them to not just flood, and flood, and flood because they ended up being too deep and open. Instead, if this is really a big concern, go out and buy an authentic KFL+ or R91. Sure, it'll cost 2-3x more than the clones, but you won't have to worry about juice channels being too deep or shallow for your liking.

I'm afraid I cannot disagree more. I currently own 3 authentic kfl+ and 3 r91, and a boatload of clones. Amongst other inconsistency, the deepness of the juice channel does in fact make a significant difference. Some juice channels aren't even properly connect, some are but are just too shallow to function properly. In fact, using a 1/16 drill bit to scrap away and deepen the channel has made all the difference. So no I don't think it'll be fair to state so firmly that it doesn't make a difference. Obviously just my 2c but yeh


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[Otherbarry92]

I got my Black Edition clone yesterday, the channels were (at least I think) far too shallow. I took a ton of pictures, pre and post dremeling.

On my 4th build so far, 30ga Kanthal Microcoil & cotton. So far I'm getting less dry hits, but I am missing the flavor and warmth from the 28 Gauge. (1st three builds 1.4 ohm w/ 28g & cotton, 4th 1.8 ohm w/ 30g & cotton)

I'll post a ton of pics when I get back from class.

 

[LReyes66]

Can someone post pictures of the up close pictures of juice channels side by side with a R91 and these black/tobecco v2

Mine hasn't shipped yet but wanna see the difference. I don't have a dremel so if I want to make the channels wider I'd have to use a hand drill with a 1/16 drill bit... I can already imagine how messy it could get lol. I don't wanna mess up and make it too big and ruin the vacuum.

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[TheKiwi]

Well otherbarry92 says he's gonna do it when he gets back. I'm waiting on that before buying it too. I don't have a Dremel anymore either


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[LReyes66]

Other berry can u post pics side by side with authentics

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[Merlin21]

Just my personal experience, in reply to the poster a few posts above.... widening/deepening the channels eliminated all my wicking problems.

 

[Bill3753]

Im vaping 70/30 juice from Esix without wicking issues. My coil and wick pics are a few post back.