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OK, picked up a ehpro kayfun lite and really like it. I picked it up at a reputable seller (mad vapes - though I'm sure some would question a dealer that sells any clone). Anyway, I want another and found the Plus model on eBay, though I don'r know if it is a "real" ehpro. This one has the markings on the bottom of the base, which my Lite (non-Plus) does not have.

Link Kayfun Lite Plus Ehpro Clone Rebuildable RBA Adjustable Air Flow Stainless | eBay

So, on top of clones, are there also clone clones?

Crazy.
 

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Just because it's a clone does not mean it's a fake. Just because it's a fake does not mean it's a clone. However I will not tolerate fake clones.

Ya know, I'm so happy with my ehpro that I would gladly buy a genuine Kayfun, but as I'm sure you know - they are impossible to find.
 

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This whole Chinese Kayfun deal is just crazy.

First you had the original "Kayfun", or was it the original "Russian"? ... One was basically a copy of the other ... Well, no problem at all since these two different guys that used to work together split ways and began making there own "Kayfuns" under two separate companies (or was it they began making there own "Russians") ... Oh, never mind, they were good friends and just began making a similar product. There really was not any real 'illegal patent violations' going on because these two guys were still pretty good buddies and had agreed that they would both make basically the same product.

Then came those nasty little patent violators "the Chinese" into the picture ... They could care less whether or not they were copying some other companies product design or not. In fact, some of these Chinese companies went to far as to engrave "Designed in Russia - Made in Germany" on there fake Kayfuns, and even put the corporate "Svoemesto logo" on there fake Kayfuns too (a violation of "Intellectual Trademark Property" laws) ... Question: When did Germany take over ownership of Hong Kong? .... "Made in Germany" ... Give me a beak!

Well, these Chinese violators of all respected international trade and manufacturing laws were selling these cheap Kayfun / Russian fakes to US customers all day long at about a third of the price of the real thing without impunity (and since the Chinese government don't really like the United States anyway, this 'Communist' government could care less if anyone is in violation of copyright laws)

Now, to add even more confusion and disbelief to this whole situation, a few new Chinese upstart companies have gone so far as to clone the very Kayfun clones that are being manufactured in China and illegally sold in the United States.

Now, we have to worry if we are buying a real HCigar fake, or a cheap Chinese fake of the Chinese HCigar fake!

Unbelievable!
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Just thank the good Lord above that China isn't making any commercial airliners ... Better for the world that they keep there manufacturing down at a lower technology level, such as making Chinese drywall, powdered baby milk and children's toys with lead based paint.

... Yup, now we have to ask ourselves ... Is this an 'authentic' cheap Chinese HCigar Kayfun clone we are buying, or is this nothing but a cheap fake copy of the authentic cheap Chinese HCigar Kayfun clone.


shakes head ...
 
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OK, picked up a ehpro Kayfun lite and really like it. I picked it up at a reputable seller (Mad Vapes - though I'm sure some would question a dealer that sells any clone). Anyway, I want another and found the Plus model on eBay, though I don'r know if it is a "real" ehpro. This one has the markings on the bottom of the base, which my Lite (non-Plus) does not have.

Link Kayfun Lite Plus Ehpro Clone Rebuildable RBA Adjustable Air Flow Stainless | eBay

So, on top of clones, are there also clone clones?

Crazy.


Always look for the box, which this one happens to have so I'm pretty sure it is legit. However, I would strongly suggest getting the original. They just came back in stock a few days ago.
 

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OK, picked up a ehpro Kayfun lite and really like it. I picked it up at a reputable seller (Mad Vapes - though I'm sure some would question a dealer that sells any clone). Anyway, I want another and found the Plus model on eBay, though I don'r know if it is a "real" ehpro. This one has the markings on the bottom of the base, which my Lite (non-Plus) does not have.

Link Kayfun Lite Plus Ehpro Clone Rebuildable RBA Adjustable Air Flow Stainless | eBay

So, on top of clones, are there also clone clones?

Crazy.

The EHPro kayfun lite does come with marking on the bottom, however there is no reason why a seller "madvapes" could not request there shipment of KFL's to not include the wording on the bottom "like yours". For example for extra $$ I can order a shipment from Tobeco with a custom box to my design for resell. Also these manufactures are always changing little details the one in your link looks to be a legit EHPro.

Click link and scroll to bottom of features, you'll see "orders of 500 pieces can be customized" this should answer your question. http://ehpro.manufacturer.globalsou.../Electronic-cigarette/1079951753/Atomizer.htm
 
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Really? a legit EHPro? lmfao, EHPro doesn't making any thing legit, they are all counterfeits, clone, copies, facsimiles, fakes, all susceptible to quality control.. to funny.

These products are are made by grandmothers and daughters, they don't even know what they're making. Have you seen the Foxcon movie, the company that manufactures for apple?
Think of the worst labor conditions that you can. It's worse than that.

Sent from a smoke free room.
 

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These products are are made by grandmothers and daughters, they don't even know what they're making. Have you seen the Foxcon movie, the company that manufactures for apple?
Think of the worst labor conditions that you can. It's worse than that.

Sent from a smoke free room.

Easy to make a product for 1/10 the cost, when you're only paying 1/10 of the labor rate.
 
This whole Chinese Kayfun deal is just crazy.

First you had the original "Kayfun", or was it the original "Russian"? ... One was basically a copy of the other ... Well, no problem at all since these two different guys that used to work together split ways and began making there own "Kayfuns" under two separate companies (or was it they began making there own "Russians") ... Oh, never mind, they were good friends and just began making a similar product. There really was not any real 'illegal patent violations' going on because these two guys were still pretty good buddies and had agreed that they would both make basically the same product.

The Kayfun was the original device. The Russian is a clone of that device however the Russian 91% added features that were not found in the original Kayfun Lite (airflow control). The original full size Kayfun had airflow control however, they just did not incorporate it into the Lite until after the Russian 91% came onto the market.
 

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Really? a legit EHPro? lmfao, EHPro doesn't making any thing legit, they are all counterfeits, clone, copies, facsimiles, fakes, all susceptible to quality control.. to funny.

I was simply stating that it's an EHPro not a lower quality piece made by a lower end company, OP was wondering if it was a cheaper copy from an unknown manufacturer with an EHPro box. So yes I said legit EHPro as someone like "Joe Blow" didn't just spin this thing out on the lathe at work and stick it in a box that says EHPro. Get what I'm saying...

I have considered making my own to incorporate certain specs to my liking and quality would probably be better than any of these china clones ;)
 
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