Why not use smaller than '650s? Just cos they won't last long? Curious, cos I use '350s with sub-ohm all the time
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Why not use smaller than '650s? Just cos they won't last long? Curious, cos I use '350s with sub-ohm all the time
as I come to believe on how a dual coil works is that although the resistance is cut by half, the amps are doubled. don't do dual coils myself so its something I never looked into further, but if the amps are doubled it seems that a smaller battery will drain in no time at all. also I believe the 350's are less in c-ratings then the 650's
well maybe its not that the amps are actually doubled it just takes more voltage to run a dual coil. lets say you have a dual coil that reads 1-ohm in total resistance, this means that each coil is actually 2-ohms each, so when both are together the resistance is cut in half now reading 1-ohm. so each coil is 2 ohms which requires a certain voltage to run. i think most dual coils require alot more voltage to heat up thus a lot more amps.
when i first received the lite i was getting a small amount of leaking from the bottom screw, i then replaced it with one of the spare screws and no more issues
Makes sense, thanks. The only dual coil I'm running currently is a conventional 4/5 wrap on my Arrow, which is on my Ba Gua with 14500. It goes through that battery in about 1/2 day with moderate use. Actually, when I say "goes through" I just mean it depletes it enough where I find it lacking a bit - around 3.6v.
Incidentally, I tried various micros on the Arrow and they were all a bit "laggy", taking too long to come up to temperature for my tastes. I haven't tried 32g, but I dunno if the resistance would be too high.
To inspire those who still have difficulty making those perfect, amazing looking micro coils... you're not alone 
also, fwiw, after trying Ekowool in the fig.8, laying on the deck with silica or cotton, coil orientation, etc., I'm finding that this has been the simplest to create and arrange. Simple, consistently good results with no wicking issues, leaking, etc. Given the way it looks, I call it "The Lorax".
also, fwiw, after trying Ekowool in the fig.8, laying on the deck with silica or cotton, coil orientation, etc., I'm finding that this has been the simplest to create and arrange. Simple, consistently good results with no wicking issues, leaking, etc. Given the way it looks, I call it "The Lorax".
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My setup was dual micros, 10 wraps of 28g on a 1/16" or 5/64" drill bit reading at 0.6ohms. I wasn't using cotton so I could only fit a single 2mm silica in each.
I guess I just want that insta-sizzle!
Yes, I take my precautions with sub-ohm!
isn't the arrow a genesis device? i do remember seeing it and it looks really nice, especially cause its a smaller design. imo micro coils work the best with cotton. with cotton they heat up instantly but if you use them with a mesh build not as fast. the micro coil build in your arrow, is it with cotton or mesh?
Same issue with mine. I wrapped a little teflon tape on it and it doesn't leak anymore.
Yes you're correct since V/R=I.
Its dependent on the battery. My Efest 18350 has a 10A continuous draw but so does my AW 18490/18500. Just ordered some MNKE 18650s which have a 20A continuous draw. Woot!
so 2 coils, both 28g and 10 wraps? so with both that's 20 wraps of 28g? imo that's just too much wire for a mechanical mod, definitely to much heat up time. for something like that you would need about 5 volts and currently i know of no device that would allow that. maybe a dna-20 but not sure if it would fire at a resistance that low.
Yah, a mini gennie. I like it a lot. For my other gennies, like the AC9, Short DID, RSST, I use a SS hybrid wick with a light cotton wrap for micro coils. The wick diameter is probably larger than you'd consider "micro" but quite a bit smaller than I use for standard coils. They're all 10 wraps of 28g. Don't really have lag issues with them. I like them a lot.
i love the mnke 18650's, i have a few that i use to run my k-lite set-up on my mechanical mod. they hit really hard, i can tell the difference when i take a vape from my mnke compared to my aw/imr 18650's
Maybe that's why my Arrow dual micro was too slow. I also did 10 wraps of 28g. Tried 7 wraps, too, tho. Not much better.
Maybe I need a kick. Haha. Yeah I'm going to stick with 28/30g or 0.8 ribbon for my Nimbus.
But back on track, the KFL is awesome! Will probably rebuild my coil today with some 0.8 ribbon. Oh happy days!
haha! thanks for reeling the topic back. My KFL is purring along with a single 10 wrap 28g. It's by far my best vapor producer. Love that atty.
i think micros are awesome for sure but using them with dual coils along with a thicker gauge wire starts to get into some lag issues. although the diameters of micros are very tiny they do use a lot of wire and most of us use 28g, combine this with a dual coil and now your pushing quite a bit of wire. with all this wire a standard mechanical mod just doesn't push enough power to heat all this up fast enough imo.
Yah, I think you're right. I tried 30g, but I think I may try 32g 7 wraps each for the Arrow.
definitely a great device this k-lite. my go to set-up is an 8 wrap of 26g at a resistance between .6 and .7Ω.
makes more sense. a lot of the dual coil set-ups i have seen do use a thinner gauge wire.
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