Kayfun LITE

[bapgood]

That's the beauty of VW. Set your wattage and the mod will adjust the voltage accordingly. Doesn't matter what your resistance is from atty to atty. The mod does the work.

IMHO this isn't necessarily true. Significant changes in coil/wick/atty setup can vape very different at the same wattage setting, however you are correct that the voltage will stay the same. There just seems to be some misinformation out there that you can throw any gauge wire or wick or etc etc and it will vape the same.

Also....again IMHO.....The DNA20 and Kick2 are in a different VW league from anything other VW devise that I have tried.

 

[bapgood]

well the single vertical micro in the kaylite does produce more vapor, the issue is the wicking. because the single coil is directly over the air hole you need to wick around the coil(like a carto). initially I used a little amount so as to not crowd the chamber, this produced more vapor then any coil that I have tried but I had issues with dry hits. I then added more cotton around the coil which did stop the dry hits but at the same time the vapor production dropped off. I guess to much cotton material in the chamber reduces the air flow. well for now its a bust unless I can figure out a different way. I do like the idea of the air flow reaching all of the coil, like this vertical coil right over the air hole but for now back to the drawing board. I think with a regular horizontal micro the airflow may not reach the entire coil, especially those who make kind of longer micro, I mean im sure its very close to reaching all of it but not like the air flow if this vertical coil would of done. so im back to a regular horizontal and the dual vert coil.

Did you try a larger diameter coil with the greater amount of cotton? More air up threw the coil???

 

[Bronze]

IMHO this isn't necessarily true. Significant changes in coil/wick/atty setup can vape very different at the same wattage setting, however you are correct that the voltage will stay the same. There just seems to be some misinformation out there that you can throw any gauge wire or wick or etc etc and it will vape the same.

Also....again IMHO.....The DNA20 and Kick2 are in a different VW league from anything other VW devise that I have tried.

Yes, the mod does not know what your set up is and your performance can vary depending on wire ga, resistance, wraps, wick material, diameters, etc... That's an entirely different ballgame. However, most people tend to vape the same setups so the VW is a useful feature. While you cannot say that VW is perfect for all setups, neither can you say VW is not useful for similar setups.

 

[vapdivrr]

Did you try a larger diameter coil with the greater amount of cotton? More air up threw the coil???

I tried a 1/16 bit size and a slightly larger 16g needle. when those didn't perform as well as I would of liked, I actually went smaller, I then tried a 20g blunt tip. I have done regular horizontal coils at 5/64 and found them decent but not quite as good as the smaller ones. thinking on these same lines I didn't try the larger one for the vertical coil. I will try it and see but the issue I was having was in order to get good wicking the amount of cotton seemed to much as it seemed to inhibit the vapor, but like you said, maybe the added diameter might balance it back out. will let you know how it works out. anyways my future should be here soon, cant wait to try out different coils that I could never run before. for instance, would like to try a 12 wrap of 26g micro for the kaylite. this would most likely come in at 1.1 ish. at this resistance for my mech the overall power is below my usual and tbh is just to much wire for the voltage supplied. this very same coil wouldn't be much difference on a vv device as it still would be under my preferred wattage. but on the dna mod this could be a great coil. so what type coils & resistances do you now run on your dna that didn't quite cut it before?

 

[bapgood]

so what type coils & resistances do you now run on your dna that didn't quite cut it before?

That's a tuff question. I have been using a DNA since they first became available, and I have probably tried hundreds of coil and wick setups. In general I love the versatility, basically can run anything. The biggest thing I noticed is what wattage I actually run on the DNA with a setup I liked in a mech, I rarely run over 15-16 watts on anything. I actually find in general I like a little higher ohm coils than on a mech....1-1.5 range....but it all depends the setup.

Judging from all your experimenting in this thread, you will be busy experimenting with your new toy for a while

 

[francomakou91]

IMHO your not vaping at 20 watts with a 0.9 ohm coil on a mech....probably closer to 16 watts and dropping as the battery drains.

A DNA20 mod will output ~4.2-4.3v on a 0.9 ohm coil set at 20 watts from start to finish....or you could turn it down to 16 watts and match the mech performance

I actually meant 0.8 ohms

I can go lower and yes you're right about DNA20 but for now I'm happy with a mech... better than my provari

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[DjCaptainKiddo]

Need some info on how to safely drill out the air hole on my kayfun lite. Any ideas?

 

[james1980]

Need some info on how to safely drill out the air hole on my kayfun lite. Any ideas?

iv done this to my old kayfun it ruined it to much air draw and no wicking had to sell it and buy a new one

 

[odogg_mia]

Anyone know anybody that can polish my Kayfun Lite to match my polished Caravela?

 

[JuRuKi]

Ran into a small issue when i switched to a smaller 1/16 size micro coil. The coil is so small in diameter that i cant run that much cotton through it so there isnt that much cotton to put on top of the juice channels to stop the juice from flooding the chamber. Does that make any sense?
When i was using a 2+mm micro coil there was enough cotton to lay on top of the juice channels and it would never flood or leak.

 

[digitals]

Ran into a small issue when i switched to a smaller 1/16 size micro coil. The coil is so small in diameter that i cant run that much cotton through it so there isnt that much cotton to put on top of the juice channels to stop the juice from flooding the chamber. Does that make any sense?
When i was using a 2+mm micro coil there was enough cotton to lay on top of the juice channels and it would never flood or leak.

I wrap my micros around a 1/16" bit, and I don't have any issues with flooding/leaking. I use a cotton wick as well. How dense is the cotton you are using? I know that's a trick question as the cotton density is the only thing that plagues the Kayfun on micro setups..


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[vapdivrr]

Anyone know anybody that can polish my Kayfun Lite to match my polished Caravela?

show off / lol

 

[vapdivrr]

Ran into a small issue when i switched to a smaller 1/16 size micro coil. The coil is so small in diameter that i cant run that much cotton through it so there isnt that much cotton to put on top of the juice channels to stop the juice from flooding the chamber. Does that make any sense?
When i was using a 2+mm micro coil there was enough cotton to lay on top of the juice channels and it would never flood or leak.

1/16 is probably the most common size of a micro that I see people using in the k-lites. I also use this size, although I never had any flooding issues I maybe might recommend a slightly denser piece of cotton. I also place the wick tails, more or less at the channels, and not totally across the ledge. I believe that if the tails are in close contact at the channels they instantly wick in the juice and don't get bypassed. maybe with a smaller diameter this wicking issue is a little more picky but when you get it right the flavor is improved. so for one, get a nice length of cotton, this length should be consistently dense the whole way across, no whimpy parts. then slightly twist the whole piece and insert into coil, this should have some resistance as you pull it through. I actually prefer more resistance while pulling then not so much resistance. trim tails and place at channels. good luck

 

[Rule62]

1/16 is probably the most common size of a micro that I see people using in the k-lites. I also use this size, although I never had any flooding issues I maybe might recommend a slightly denser piece of cotton. I also place the wick tails, more or less at the channels, and not totally across the ledge. I believe that if the tails are in close contact at the channels they instantly wick in the juice and don't get bypassed. maybe with a smaller diameter this wicking issue is a little more picky but when you get it right the flavor is improved. so for one, get a nice length of cotton, this length should be consistently dense the whole way across, no whimpy parts. then slightly twist the whole piece and insert into coil, this should have some resistance as you pull it through. I actually prefer more resistance while pulling then not so much resistance. trim tails and place at channels. good luck

I set mine up about the same way as divrr, as far as using a fairly big piece of cotton. I like to feel some resistance when I pull it through the coil. The biggest difference between his and mine is that I run the tails across the deck. The important thing is that the juice hits the wick as soon as it is pulled up via the juice channels.

 

[nttdemented]

So I was bored tonight and although my KFL was working marvelously for the past 3 days on the same micro coil and cotton wick I decided to play around a little bit.

I had some #500 mesh laying around and still got tons of 30awg Kanthal A-1 so I decided to have a little fun with it. This is what I
came up with:

A 2mm diameter SS mesh wick rolled super tight (no hole in the center) cut to be a little shorter than the diameter of the inside of the chamber so that it didn't touch the sides of it. I torched it up real good (about 1 and a half minutes hitting it from every angle) and I did a tight 4/5 wrap on it and mounted it diagonally on my deck as I would a micro coil with about 1mm height from the air hole. Left the ss mesh wick sitting horizontally up top. Test fired it and after two or three pulses it was firing perfectly with no hot spots. I rolled two thin pieces of cotton and I folded each one around the tips of the ss mesh wick and layed both ends doubled over across the deck as I normally would when using microcoils + cotton. The initial cotton roll I used was a lot thinner than I normally would use so that doubled over it equaled the density I used to have over my decks with the microcoil I was using. The final resistance metered at 1.1ohms.

It took me like 3 or 4 different design ideas and 2 hours to get to this point. Initially I was using a longer SS mesh wick trying to fold it in a U shape down onto a floor of cotton but that wasn't working out and I was weary of shorts so I took it appart and did what I described above. After I saturated the mesh and cotton in the chamber I put the tank back together, filled it and chain vaped it for like 10 minutes. At first I didn't really like the flavor but after the first two minutes the flavor train started rushing in and it has stayed at the boarding station the whole way through. This thing is tasting AMAZING!! And tons of vapor out of a 2 or 3 second pull, no dry hits yet (still trying to get a dry hit while typing this, maybe getting a little nic sic).

It worked so good that I emptied it and took it appart after my 10 minute chain vape binge to show you guys the setup. Feeling proud of myself!

EDIT: According to my calculations this is pumping out 13.8 watts on my Neme mod with my battery sitting at 4 volts right now. First time I think I venture into the double digit wattage. I think I get it now...

 

[nttdemented]

Some extra pics under the hood. This morning I decided to re-wick it to try my Boba's after 1 week of steeping and took some extra pics of the guts under the hood and how I set the wick on it, pictures are pretty self explanatory:

Solid mesh wick, no hole through the middle:

Mesh length and wraps firing:

Coil height reference:

Piece of cotton rolled and folded over in half around the tips of the wick (this piece was to big, I removed some cotton from this roll for the next pic:

Wick laid on the deck and cut to size:

Wicks pointed upwards to put the chamber on (couldn't really put the chamber on succesfuly without messing up the wick positioning):

Chamber installed:

Wicks pushed into the chamber, I pushed around the tips of the mesh wick to make sure the cotton was wrapping around the entire tip and I pushed the cotton off to the sides against the chamber walls and away from the coil wires. Made sure the entire bottom of the deck was covered in cotton without pushing down to hard and blocking the channels:

 

[nttdemented]

Hmm I'm getting a tiny hotspot at the end of the coil with a saturated wick after firing it for more than 5 seconds after this re-wick. Any idea how to take care of that without having to re-do the coil? I already filled it up and it's tasting spectacular but if I hit it for more than those 5 seconds I get a rush of heat from it.

EDIT: Looking at my pics on the 2nd pic I notice I have that first coil wrap to close to the 2nd one. Should've fixed that before putting it back together. Cest' la vie. I'll wait till I receive the pre-steeped Big Willie's Custard bottle today at noon to empty it out and fix it.

 

[Bronze]

Why did nttdemented wick his Kayfun like he did?

Because he can!

 

[nttdemented]

Why did nttdemented wick his Kayfun like he did?

Because he can!

Try it out Bronze. The flavor is through the roof for me!

 

[Rule62]

Sick. I'm down to buy this heard some amazing things about it. I fell in love with the kayfun after I went to this electronic cigarette reviews site and saw this review on it vapedrone.com/tag/kayfun-3-1/ seems legit anyone else can give me some insights to it?

Well, I don't entirely agree with the review, in that the reviewer claims that 'gurgling' is almost impossible. That's a bit misleading. It's very much possible, depending on several factors, having nothing to do with the design of the Kayfun itself. Coil distance, wick material and size, using juice that deteriorates the o ring seals, etc.