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I prefer ekowool on lower ohm builds -- on higher ohm builds I like organic cotton. The cotton balls are the best -- unroll them, section off a 2 inch long bunch at the right thickness, roll the end on one side so I can slide it thru my microcoil, trim then fluff.
Oh yes, forgot to mention silica, ekowool, and xc rope.
 

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Thanks brother...
Nice looking set up there!


Exactly...
Think about it. You suck on the drip tip like a straw drawing juice into the combustion chamber. As long as there is enough opening in that channel you'll be OK. I always have a little opening at the point where the channel enters the combustion chamber.
 

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If your talking about the "Nano Kit" for the KFL the difference is the juice capacity. It will be reduced because of the smaller tank size and yes you will need to use the short chimney with this type of setup.

If you like a more stealthier smaller KFL that is the way to go. I have one sitting on my 18350 4Nine and it's tiny...love it. HTH!
 

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It's a separate piece from the nano kit. It's a short tank for the Kayfun. I'm trying to get this look:

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When I look up short tanks for Kayfun's, I found this 24x22mm one on Vaperev (Vaperev Shop - Kayfun Nano M-Tank Short 24mm x 22mm) and a 28x22mm one on Science of Vaping (Nano Size Polycarbonate Tank - 28mm – Science Of Vaping) Just wondering if like only one works without any addition pieces but the other one needs a longer chimney or something.
 

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Um. I have vaped some of the gunkiest NETs around with a microcoil. And they most certainly work fine. So have many other folks in the mega NETs thread. So. Yeap.


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How 'bout a constructive post instead of my .... don't stink post?

Link a video that shows how to build a microcoil that works with NETS with nothing left out.

I got about a 10% success rate with the classic microcoil + NETs , my first try with the gapped worked. So did the subsequent 2 build. Granted the initial flavor is down a bit but with nearly all the micro coil builds carried a taste of cotton (burnt however slight.) They always showed signs of a burn wick inside the coil when taken apart.

For NETS I've switched almost completely to the Monkey dripper, so its an at home thing. I never had a KLF build with the flavor as good as the dripper. The fantastic thing is the premade coils from fastech fit right in, with the Monkey you get exactly 1.05 ohms from 2 of their 33g 2 ohm coils. I run about 16W with the Tribeca DNA30.

Sorry for the off topic rant but I know there are others out there reading getting the same results not bothering to post.

It takes a special talent to get a micro-coil to work with a juicy net and I admire those who can pull it off, I just know I don't have the dexterity or magic figures, but I'm sure I'm not alone.

With the gapped method I hope to gain confidence to take a KFL build it to a 13 hour work day but I'll take a backup aerotank just in case.
 
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How 'bout a constructive post instead of my .... don't stink post?

Link a video that shows how to build a microcoil that works with NETS with nothing left out.

I got about a 10% success rate with the classic microcoil + NETs , my first try with the gapped worked. So did the subsequent 2 build. Granted the initial flavor is down a bit but with nearly all the micro coil builds carried a taste of cotton (burnt however slight.) They always showed signs of a burn wick inside the coil when taken apart.

For NETS I've switched almost completely to the Monkey dripper, so its an at home thing. I never had a KLF build with the flavor as good as the dripper. The fantastic thing is the premade coils from fastech fit right in, with the Monkey you get exactly 1.05 ohms from 2 of their 33g 2 ohm coils. I run about 16W with the Tribeca DNA30.

Sorry for the off topic rant but I know there are others out there reading getting the same results not bothering to post.

It takes a special talent to get a micro-coil to work with a juicy net and I admire those who can pull it off, I just know I don't have the dexterity or magic figures, but I'm sure I'm not alone.

With the gapped method I hope to gain confidence to take a KFL build it to a 13 hour work day but I'll take a backup aerotank just in case.

whooaaaa whoaaaaaa.....

Just a reminder, I simply posted that reply in response to your strong assertion that microcoils "DOES NOT WORK WITH NETS". That is all.

You made a (imo flawed) point, and I expressed my opinions in a decently civil manner + substantiated my opinion with the simple fact that microcoils have worked perfectly fine for other folks too.

There's no need to get your panties up in a bunch so hastily. :facepalm:
 

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whooaaaa whoaaaaaa.....

Just a reminder, I simply posted that reply in response to your strong assertion that microcoils "DOES NOT WORK WITH NETS". That is all.

You made a (imo flawed) point, and I expressed my opinions in a decently civil manner + substantiated my opinion with the simple fact that microcoils have worked perfectly fine for other folks too.

There's no need to get your panties up in a bunch so hastily. :facepalm:


I understand you may have been busy but your post came across as an insult and rather unconstructive, just a mis communication on my part. You've added some good info to this thread. That's what its here for right?
 

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I understand you may have been busy but your post came across as an insult and rather unconstructive, just a mis communication on my part. You've added some good info to this thread. That's what its here for right?

Nope. No insults intended. I never mean anything in a condescending or insulting manner, although sometimes I may come across as so. But it's never my intention. And I'm sure it applies to everyone who frequents this thread.

And besides, my insults are precious and reserved only for crazy sub-ohmers who don't know anything about what they're doing.

That aside, I think you'll have to calibrate your expectations on the longevity of coils and wicks when dealing with certain NETs. If bronze and jerms do end up dropping by here, they will tell you that regardless of how god-like your builds are, whether it is microcoil or not, it will gunk up like crap. Good ole patriot, blue grass burley, Paris...

It all comes with vaping these NETs. the fact that they are extracted from real tobacco leaves means that many of them have a super high density of solid particulates in the juice, and in many cases contribute to the ridiculously rich and aromatic flavor. These particulates either get burnt and scorched on the coils, or are trapped and filtered by the fibers of your wick. That's just how it is.

ETA: if you like NETs and appreciate the rich complexity you cannot get anywhere else, I would strongly strongly recommend trying out ahlusion's non-aromatic line of NETs (personal fav = smooth criminal, just criminal and caramel wild woods) as well as heather heavenly vape (dragon's fire and legend). I'm guessing they use a different filtration and extraction method, and they vape very very cleanly.
 
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Nope. No insults intended. I never mean anything in a condescending or insulting manner, although sometimes I may come across as so. But it's never my intention. And I'm sure it applies to everyone who frequents this thread.

And besides, my insults are precious and reserved only for crazy sub-ohmers who don't know anything about what they're doing.

That aside, I think you'll have to calibrate your expectations on the longevity of coils and wicks when dealing with certain NETs. If bronze and jerms do end up dropping by here, they will tell you that regardless of how god-like your builds are, whether it is microcoil or not, it will gunk up like crap. Good ole patriot, blue grass burley, Paris...

It all comes with vaping these NETs. the fact that they are extracted from real tobacco leaves means that many of them have a super high density of solid particulates in the juice, and in many cases contribute to the ridiculously rich and aromatic flavor. These particulates either get burnt and scorched on the coils, or are trapped and filtered by the fibers of your wick. That's just how it is.

ETA: if you like NETs and appreciate the rich complexity you cannot get anywhere else, I would strongly strongly recommend trying out ahlusion's non-aromatic line of NETs (personal fav = smooth criminal, just criminal and caramel wild woods) as well as heather heavenly vape (dragon's fire and legend). I'm guessing they use a different filtration and extraction method, and they vape very very cleanly.


Thanks for the advice. I also want to riterate that I am going on a half a tank of home made Cavendish net with the "macro gapped" coil with no signs of slowing down. I think it could go a couple tank fulls before re-wicking. I forgot who posted about it first but its been a life or should I say Kaylite saver.
 

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It's a separate piece from the nano kit. It's a short tank for the Kayfun. I'm trying to get this look:

When I look up short tanks for Kayfun's, I found this 24x22mm one on Vaperev (Vaperev Shop - Kayfun Nano M-Tank Short 24mm x 22mm) and a 28x22mm one on Science of Vaping (Nano Size Polycarbonate Tank - 28mm – Science Of Vaping) Just wondering if like only one works without any addition pieces but the other one needs a longer chimney or something.

lol btw dude, if noone replies you, it's either noone has actually tried those, or just don't have a clue. in case you think you're being ignored
 

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Thanks for the advice. I also want to riterate that I am going on a half a tank of home made Cavendish net with the "macro gapped" coil with no signs of slowing down. I think it could go a couple tank fulls before re-wicking. I forgot who posted about it first but its been a life or should I say Kaylite saver.

ack. if that works for you then excellent, you've finally found something that's nailed down. you can just stick to building that for your NETs or be ......ed like me and spend time tweaking stuff here and there. Who knows, you could find another set up that'll work even better.

but entertain me a little. I do wonder if the tightness of the coil is the only variable you've changed.

a gapped coil is inherently flimsier than a tight microcoil yes? as such, could it be possible that you're actually using slightly less cotton than you would on a tight microcoil?

I'm asking only because I've had a friend who basically experienced the same thing. Excessive gunking on the microcoil, but excellent results on a gapped coil. So i got him to build and wick both a gapped coil and a microcoil in front of me. Except before he did anything else, I pulled out the wick in the microcoil and trashed that, then swapped the wick within the gapped coil into the microcoil. BAM. now he only builds microcoils.

I asked him about it and his rationale was simple: since the gapped coil is so flimsy, he uses quite a bit less cotton so that he doesnt end up yanking his gapped coil while threading the wick through. as it turns out, the "a bit less cotton" turned out to be the right amount of cotton.

that's a teeeenny possibility. If not, well, microcoils and your NETs are just not fated for each other for some weird reason.
 

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It's a separate piece from the nano kit. It's a short tank for the Kayfun. I'm trying to get this look:

When I look up short tanks for Kayfun's, I found this 24x22mm one on Vaperev (Vaperev Shop - Kayfun Nano M-Tank Short 24mm x 22mm) and a 28x22mm one on Science of Vaping (Nano Size Polycarbonate Tank - 28mm – Science Of Vaping) Just wondering if like only one works without any addition pieces but the other one needs a longer chimney or something.

My bad, I thought you where talking about the other nano kit. The "M-Tank" 24x22mm is plug and play, just need you KF base and top cap. With the "Nano M-Tank" you will need to just change your chimney top to a short one and you are set.

Now the look you are trying for, that's a Quartz Glass kit that come in two sizes. Standard and Nano, the one in you photo is the Nano Quartz kit. If you take a look on ebay and search "Kayfun Quartz" you'll find them in SS, Brass and Black.

@TheKiwi, I did reply right after his post, and thank you.
 

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My bad, I thought you where talking about the other nano kit. The "M-Tank" 24x22mm is plug and play, just need you KF base and top cap. With the "Nano M-Tank" you will need to just change your chimney top to a short one and you are set.

Now the look you are trying for, that's a Quartz Glass kit that come in two sizes. Standard and Nano, the one in you photo is the Nano Quartz kit. If you take a look on ebay and search "Kayfun Quartz" you'll find them in SS, Brass and Black.

@TheKiwi, I did reply right after his post, and thank you.

whoops! didnt notice.

Anyways with regards to your suggestion on the nano quartz kit, I'm looking at the picture OP posted, and it looks to me like the tank section is threaded onto the base, no? or am i imagining things.

If so, I don't think that would be a quartz tank. but then again I might be ......ed and completely wrong
 
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