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don't know if you made a decision yet because I haven't caught up on all the posts yet, but I do own a reo and reomizer along with a k-lite. I actually owned the reo first and absolutely loved it, I never thought anything would come close, well I was wrong. I often think if I were to only have one, which one would it be? honestly its a tie. I love both the same. now there may be an advantage to the kayfun pretty soon which may turn the tides, its the future dna-20, I should be getting it pretty soon. having this dna-20 tube mod with the kayfun will open up some new builds for me, this may just be the slight edge in the tie that soon may go to the kayfun. with all that said the kayfun device is really very good.
Lord, that video was from our very own vapdvvr (see two posts below yours). Give him a nod for putting the vid together. He put a lot of thought into it. I would urge you to look at others as well. Each vid brings a new perspective on coil building (but no one can beat vapedvvr's groovy background tunes). Here's another one...(he uses cotton but watch it for the coil build)
I just want to say thanks, for all the helpful posts, in this thread. I just finished reading everything up till now. I have had my Kayfun lite for about 3 or 4 weeks now, I am using it on a provari, at the moment. I have a coil built with 32 ga Kanthal, I used a 1/16" wire to twist it, its kind of high ohms for some of the people here, but I got a 2.5 ohm coil, using a cotton wick.
This is the first time I have used cotton before, I had a few problems with taste, with the eko wool and the silica, even after boiling, I still don't know why, I still will try again at some point, but not while this is working so well. I am going to get some 30 ga kanthal tomorrow so I can try a build like Bronze does, my coil goes across the deck currently, I just liked the way that coil pattern looked, most of the coils, I like to build are between 2.0 and 2.5 ohm, that is just what I am used to, it will be nice to try a thicker wire to work with.
Thanks again for all the helpful posts.
This is the first time I have used cotton before, I had a few problems with taste, with the eko wool and the silica, even after boiling, I still don't know why, I still will try again at some point, but not while this is working so well. I am going to get some 30 ga kanthal tomorrow so I can try a build like Bronze does, my coil goes across the deck currently, I just liked the way that coil pattern looked, most of the coils, I like to build are between 2.0 and 2.5 ohm, that is just what I am used to, it will be nice to try a thicker wire to work with.
Thanks again for all the helpful posts.
Has anyone made a micro coil with Twisted 32g wire? Would that even work?!
I'm getting fidgety and may have to take apart one of my working builds..
I'm getting fidgety and may have to take apart one of my working builds..
I think you will really love it that way. My KFL is always on my OpusD - I mean this when I say it is the best I have ever tried (for me) My Ody has dust and I sold both of my Penny's. I have a Cobra collecting dust as well along with my GGTS and GGTB. Did order a clone just to check it out but I will tell you this it will be a long time before I walk away from the KFL because the more you learn the better it gets 
Does anyone know where to source the center post, 510 connection, and the positive block? I received another KFL and they are all stripped out to where nothing will tighten up.
Dang it I just finished recoiling one of my kayfuns lol. I may have to try this next as I have some 32ga collecting dust.
I'm going to re-do my wicks tonight. I think I'm over-wicking.... never had even a drop of leaking on my original builds but on both have a little (very very small) leaks and I did them exactly the same. a) Might have a little too much Nextel b) Didn't remember to move them over to the juice channel before putting on chimney.
Now let me just way....they are vaping great and I haven't done anything except wipe a couple of drops off at the end of the day so I've got to be close
not sure if anyones mentioned this yet but sometimes the original screw(fill screw) leaks slightly, this happened to me. my kay-lite came with extra screws, I replaced the original with the extra and no more leakage. if your slight leaks are near the 510 connector, this could be your issue
the main difference between the reo and the kayfun, except for the form factor of course, it that the kayfun is designed to auto feed the coil with fluid in use, much like the majority of delivery systems out there attempt to do with varying degrees of success, where the reo doesn't make any attempt at auto feeding the coil at all, it instead allows you to manually fully saturate the coil for each hit like a dripper, but instead of dripping you squeeze the bottle to feed and when you release it sucks back the excess. the reo's are highly regarded because, although there is nothing automatic about it, it does allow you to manually get the right delivery for each hit which is rarely the case with most auto feed designs
out of all the various types of auto delivery systems out there, the biggest problems with them can be boiled down to 3 main things:
1) under delivery of fluid (dry hits, burnt taste)
2) over delivery of fluid (flooding and bad vape)
3) leaking of fluid (#2 can also cause this too)
the kayfun type auto delivery method is well regarded and highly praised as one of the best auto delivery methods out there, and as long as it's wicked properly it does for the most part deliver on it's promise of being a very good auto delivery system, but there is a fine line between too much fluid delivery and not enough fluid delivery and this is where the tinkering and trial and error part comes into play. once you get your wicking and your draw and your power level right it can give a really great vape but it does help to understand how these variables affect the delivery and by understanding you can then adjust/compensate if you wind up with too dry hits or excess flooding. the kayfun is not foolproof but it is also well designed in that it normally can achieve really great results if you simply build it as intended in most cases and also realize that your draw is what is causing the tank to surge up and feed the wick. it is not as idiot proof as a reo can be but it is also not rocket science, and the potential for setting it up to give a really good auto feeding vape is very high as long as you have a little patience and desire
I have both, along with many other types of delivery method devices too and personally I usually carry just a reo and a kayfun when I'm out and about. they are different but they can both be very good
auto feed VS manual feed. that's the main difference
is that a dna-20 reo? more info please.
Oh wow, I didn't know that was the same guy! Yeah he's definitely very good with that video. I probably would have shredded 25ft of wick by now if it wasn't for you both.
Good luck. Keep us posted. Use vapedvvr's vid and the one I posted above. The build concepts are the same but the Provari works best with 30 ga, 10-wraps, 2mm inside diameter. It yields 1.7 - 2.0 ohm. I've tried 28 ga at 1.3 ohms and it's not as good. The Provari likes it in the high 1's.
Yep, we claim him as ours.
Watch the other vid I posted. It helps to see more than one vid. Trust me!
hey brother glad you have it going now, and sorry I couldn't help more because I have been away for a couple days. once you get it working good and can repeat the build it really is fairly easy. I think the problem is when people told you it was an easy device, they probably thought you had done rebuildables before. its not to much that you see someone starting rebuildables with a kayfun. most start out with cheaper devices then move up to these. you did the right thing and cut out all the cheapy stuff, and right to the best.
Yep, we claim him as ours.
Watch the other vid I posted. It helps to see more than one vid. Trust me!
thanks bronze, were definitely here to help.
I've done it in the past but not lately. If I remember correctly, a 4/5 wrap micro coil on a 2mm drill bit of 32g wire got me somewhere north of 1.5 ohms (I think it was ~ 1.7ohm to 2 ohm).
Edit: That was using normal 32 g wire. I haven't used the "twisted" 32 g yet.
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Vapedvvr's vids are great, I have watched every one of them, and I had all ready read your review of the 28 ga that's why I why to try the 30 ga, plus I want to try to get the silica working for me, I would like to be able to dry burn and vape on.
haven't tried the twisted 32 in the kayfun although I have tried it in a genny, but that was just a standard wrap and not a micro. I know they are kind of liking the twisted for micros in the micro thread. because of the irregularity of the coil it seems to work pretty good in micro coils. if you try it let us know. I know one thing, it looks really cool.
thanks. yes whatever your used to that's what you should do, if your used to doing dry burns, than silica is it. for me I like the cotton, I just feel its safer. silica is fiberglass, and that just doesn't sound good. I have tried silica, and remember those fibers. they just seemed to remind me of doing some patch work on a boat hull once. anyways this is whats rebuildables are all about, you can try so many different builds. good luck
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