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I had to close the air hole a little more than normal but it wicked fine.
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Hey gents. Not sure if this is the right thread to post in but if not I will create new one. I purchased a Kayfun Lite with AFC made by tobeco. I have seen TwistedChilds youtube video and Rip Trippers. While I am no expert I have successfully set up Trident, Igo-L and RSST with microcoils and cotton.
I was looking for something on the go that won't leak so I purchased a vacuum style. I have tried a horizontal and currently a vertical with vertical just like in Rips but I only find a satisfying flavorful vape when it is flooded but that kind of defeats the purpose if It leaks. I Didn't take any pics (I know, not much help with out them) but it is nearly impossible with juice in it. Wrapped 28 ga, around 18 ga needle, 9/10 wrap micro at 1.5 ohm. Tries on a mechanical and VV MVP. So I take it that it is not wicking properly. I have positioned the tails of the cotton with out blocking the channels. I have the the air flow control screw completely out, half way in , completely closed(insanely tight draw). I'm at my wits end with this
Any help would be greatly appreciated......
I was looking for something on the go that won't leak so I purchased a vacuum style. I have tried a horizontal and currently a vertical with vertical just like in Rips but I only find a satisfying flavorful vape when it is flooded but that kind of defeats the purpose if It leaks. I Didn't take any pics (I know, not much help with out them) but it is nearly impossible with juice in it. Wrapped 28 ga, around 18 ga needle, 9/10 wrap micro at 1.5 ohm. Tries on a mechanical and VV MVP. So I take it that it is not wicking properly. I have positioned the tails of the cotton with out blocking the channels. I have the the air flow control screw completely out, half way in , completely closed(insanely tight draw). I'm at my wits end with this
Any help would be greatly appreciated......
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the kayfun uses a birdhouse type system, its juice flow is fed to the coil by its unique air compressed chamber. it does pretty good with thicker juices as long as the wicking chanels aren't smothered or tightly block with the wicking material used. also the wick must be at least 1mm away from the air tube inside the chamber to provide continuous flow of the juice into the chamber without dry hits...
Hey gents. Not sure if this is the right thread to post in but if not I will create new one. I purchased a Kayfun Lite with AFC made by tobeco. I have seen TwistedChilds youtube video and Rip Trippers. While I am no expert I have successfully set up Trident, Igo-L and RSST with microcoils and cotton.
I was looking for something on the go that won't leak so I purchased a vacuum style. I have tried a horizontal and currently a vertical with vertical just like in Rips but I only find a satisfying flavorful vape when it is flooded but that kind of defeats the purpose if It leaks. I Didn't take any pics (I know, not much help with out them) but it is nearly impossible with juice in it. Wrapped 28 ga, around 18 ga needle, 9/10 wrap micro at 1.5 ohm. Tries on a mechanical and VV MVP. So I take it that it is not wicking properly. I have positioned the tails of the cotton with out blocking the channels. I have the the air flow control screw completely out, half way in , completely closed(insanely tight draw). I'm at my wits end with this
Any help would be greatly appreciated......
It sounds like your air path is obstructed. Sometimes the wick material can get pushed over the coil opening when you fasten down the chinmey. Try sticking a toothpick gently down the top with the drip tip off to clear the air pattern down to the coil opening. I use a 3/32" drill bit for my coils with this configuration since the only path for air is the one you create over the center air opening. I don't know the OD for a 18 gauge needle. What is its diameter?
If this path is clear then your air path is likely obstructed at the base. You can blow gently through the tip while holding a paper towel just off of the opening in the base to catch any liquid you blow out.
Try these two things and see if it helps. Good luck!
Thank you for your help everybody.I am going to tear in down and give the horizontal another try but this time pointing the tails up, putting the chamber over them and then stuffing them down. The way I did it before was wet the tail ends and lay them across the the deck and then insert the chamber, thinking maybetha cotton moves while screwing the chamber on... Feeling determined to get this working...
The way you did it before sounds like a sure fire recipe for getting cotton strands caught in the wicking channels while you're screwing down the chimney. Tails up and stuff down should work out much better. Just be careful that you don't over-stuff the little wicking spaces with cotton. Leave room for juice to enter and saturate your wicks.
Hope that it works for you.
Coil 1 Vs Coil 2 on a Provari using silica wick.
Coil 1: 30ga Kanthal, 10-wrap, 2.0mm inside diameter.
Coil 2: 28ga Kanthal, 10-wrap, 2.35mm inside diameter.
Both were the same resistance (about 1.9 - 2.0ohms)
The winner? Coil #1. A clear winner. Both yielded similar flavor and throat hit, but Coil 1 was much quicker on the trigger. Had to dwell the fire button too long on Coil 2 before vapor production would begin.
Coil 1: 30ga Kanthal, 10-wrap, 2.0mm inside diameter.
Coil 2: 28ga Kanthal, 10-wrap, 2.35mm inside diameter.
Both were the same resistance (about 1.9 - 2.0ohms)
The winner? Coil #1. A clear winner. Both yielded similar flavor and throat hit, but Coil 1 was much quicker on the trigger. Had to dwell the fire button too long on Coil 2 before vapor production would begin.
Are you still running them both at 5 - 6Watts? You'll have to crank up the voltage to get coil 2 to fire the same as coil 1 due to thicker wire. So, if coil 1 was at 6W, set coil 2 to run at 8W and then compare the results.
FYI, I'm running my 28g 2mm minis at 9.5W instead of the regular 8W that I run my other coils.
I was set straight by the folks on the micro coil thread last night.
Are you still running them both at 5 - 6Watts? You'll have to crank up the voltage to get coil 2 to fire the same as coil 1 due to thicker wire. So, if coil 1 was at 6W, set coil 2 to run at 8W and then compare the results.
FYI, I'm running my 28g 2mm minis at 9.5W instead of the regular 8W that I run my other coils.
I was set straight by the folks on the micro coil thread last night.
Yes, I did jack up the power, Dust (that was something I learned from X). It was too warm. I'm a wuss when it comes to warm vapes. I like it cool and know I am in the extreme minority here.
I just bought a Neme clone (to go subohm) and have a feeling I will be disappointed due to the fact I like a cooler vape. But I have to try. If it is that bad, then I can always put it on the classies.
Yes, I did jack up the power, Dust (that was something I learned from X). It was too warm. I'm a wuss when it comes to warm vapes. I like it cool and know I am in the extreme minority here.
Don't let it hit the classies, if you don't want it just shoot me a pm
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Don't let it hit the classies, if you don't want it just shoot me a pm
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/me whistles for a Moderator!!
Trading outside the classies..
wait!
Nevermind!
/me whistles for a Moderator!!
Trading outside the classies..
wait!
Nevermind!
I was just going to dispose of it for him
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Are you sure about that I keep reading difference views an opinions on how the wick should be laid in the channels.. Some say to just barely have the wick touch the bottom of the deck, others lay there wicks all across the deck but away from the juice wells, some people say to have the wicks cover and be on top of the juice wells because when the juice gets pull into the chamber if the wick isn't right above it to absorb the juice it just goes back into the tank.. Can anyone answer this question once and for all can the juice if pulled into the chamber actually go back into the tank portion? If it's working with air pressure system or what not the juice should stay in the chamber right? not spill back into the tank?
I get confused because it seems like with the vertical coil builds people are building now a days it looks like they pack the whole juice well / decks and everything.
I have not seen the juice in my tank get discoloured by juice flowing back from the chimney. The juice and wick inside of the chimney can be dark after using for a few days, but the juice in my tank will retain it's original colour. So, I would have to say that juice does not flow back into the tank.
I do lay my cotton wicks along the bottom of the deck.
Hey gents. Not sure if this is the right thread to post in but if not I will create new one. I purchased a Kayfun Lite with AFC made by tobeco. I have seen TwistedChilds youtube video and Rip Trippers. While I am no expert I have successfully set up Trident, Igo-L and RSST with microcoils and cotton.
I was looking for something on the go that won't leak so I purchased a vacuum style. I have tried a horizontal and currently a vertical with vertical just like in Rips but I only find a satisfying flavorful vape when it is flooded but that kind of defeats the purpose if It leaks. I Didn't take any pics (I know, not much help with out them) but it is nearly impossible with juice in it. Wrapped 28 ga, around 18 ga needle, 9/10 wrap micro at 1.5 ohm. Tries on a mechanical and VV MVP. So I take it that it is not wicking properly. I have positioned the tails of the cotton with out blocking the channels. I have the the air flow control screw completely out, half way in , completely closed(insanely tight draw). I'm at my wits end with this
Any help would be greatly appreciated......
Try a 16g needle or 1/16" drill but to wrap the coil and make the bottom of the coil set tight against the positive block and air tube. Make sure the bottom coil connection also connects on that block.
I haven't been able to do a successful vertical build with that tight of a coil. But putting the coil tight against the air hole help with flooding, because having a gap creates a vacuum point to suck in liquid.
Thanks for the response Dustin, I been wondering though my juice discolors in the tank, but I think that's natural right? I think it's the nicotine in the juice discoloring the original juice e color. My clear juices end up a brownish / maple color if I leave it in the tank for a day, but the color is nowhere near the gunky color of the wicks in the chamber or the coil.
That still implies some bleeding/leaching back into the tank. The juice in your tank should not change coloration drastically within a day. The other possibility would be high heat causing accelerated steeping of the juice in your tank. What volt/watts do you normally vape at?
I don't normally finish a whole tank in a day, probably like every other day. My juice doesn't discolor too much but I do notice a difference in color, i'm vaping 6mg of nicotine, I usually vape around 12 watts, I like vaping higher wattages though I would be vaping at 15 watts if KFL+ kept up with wicking consistently.
For those in need or just interested, the KFL manual
Kayfun Lite - User Manual (English)
Kayfun Lite - User Manual (English)
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