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[nelsonm64]

so do you think people get "used to" physically? or something else? I have often heard about the blood getting thicker but that's got to be a wives tail, what gives.

you know, i'm not really sure what the deal is to be honest. all I know is when I come down your way it takes me a day or two to get used to the heat. it gets hot here in the summer and first heat wave, same deal it takes getting used to. "wives tale"...? maybe, maybe not

 

[maf2k8]

Can you guys recommend any tips for using thick juices with the KFL? I use cotton and have tried various builds, coils, etc. Just seeing if anyone has any tips or tweaks i can do to help out with thicker juices.

Thanks

 

[Jonner]

Can you guys recommend any tips for using thick juices with the KFL? I use cotton and have tried various builds, coils, etc. Just seeing if anyone has any tips or tweaks i can do to help out with thicker juices.

Thanks

People say a drop or two of distilled water to thin it a little but I haven't tried it.

 

[nelsonm64]

Can you guys recommend any tips for using thick juices with the KFL? I use cotton and have tried various builds, coils, etc. Just seeing if anyone has any tips or tweaks i can do to help out with thicker juices.

Thanks

have you tried a micro coil and cotton? cotton wicks much better than silica, much better

 

[Snapdragon]

Can you guys recommend any tips for using thick juices with the KFL? I use cotton and have tried various builds, coils, etc. Just seeing if anyone has any tips or tweaks i can do to help out with thicker juices.

Thanks

I mostly vape 100% VG juices and really have to be careful not to use too much cotton.

2 more KFL+s arriving Monday

TGIF!

 

[maf2k8]

I mostly vape 100% VG juices and really have to be careful not to use too much cotton.

2 more KFL+s arriving Monday

TGIF!

Do you happen to have any pics of one of your builds? I am curious as to what style build and how much cotton you use?

I have tried micro coil builds and regular builds all with cotton. I have tried a bunch of different placements for the cotton and it vapes but runs dry really quick. If i drip thru the top, Its perfect. Maybe i am using to much cotton? I highly doubt i am but who knows?

I will snap a pic of a build when i do one today and see what others think.

 

[maf2k8]

have you tried a micro coil and cotton? cotton wicks much better than silica, much better

Thats all i use is cotton these days ( organic cotton balls ) at times i try regular builds using Ekowool but still the same issue.

I have also tried 2 methods when building. 1) I press the wick/cotton up against the wall next to the channels. Not blocking them in any way, so when the juice comes thru the channel it hits the cotton and then i tried not even putting the wick/cotton down there and just letting the juice freely flow up to the wick, You would think that would be the best way for thick juices, having no wick near the channel but still, same results.

 

[nelsonm64]

Thats all i use is cotton these days ( organic cotton balls ) at times i try regular builds using Ekowool but still the same issue.

I have also tried 2 methods when building. 1) I press the wick/cotton up against the wall next to the channels. Not blocking them in any way, so when the juice comes thru the channel it hits the cotton and then i tried not even putting the wick/cotton down there and just letting the juice freely flow up to the wick, You would think that would be the best way for thick juices, having no wick near the channel but still, same results.

hmm, that's doesn't seem right... I don't use thick juices, usually 70pg. sounds like you have your wick setup correctly! have you tried less cotton? maybe to thick?

 

[Portertown]

Thats all i use is cotton these days ( organic cotton balls ) at times i try regular builds using Ekowool but still the same issue.

I have also tried 2 methods when building. 1) I press the wick/cotton up against the wall next to the channels. Not blocking them in any way, so when the juice comes thru the channel it hits the cotton and then i tried not even putting the wick/cotton down there and just letting the juice freely flow up to the wick, You would think that would be the best way for thick juices, having no wick near the channel but still, same results.

What I have found that helps when your wicks are not keeping up with the amount of juice your coil is requiring is to leave the tails on the cotton wick longer. Run the tails down to the lower deck as normal and then loop the end of them back up and lay the end of the tails on top of the wick just before it enters the coil on each side. What this does is create the effect of having two wicks feeding each side of your coil. I have to wet the cotton with juice to be able to place it in this way. After I screw the lower part of the chimney on I use a round toothpick to make sure the bottom of the loop of the wick tail is setting on the lower deck and the end of the wick tail is laying on the wick going into the coil.
I now do all my Kayfun Lite builds this way.
You have to make sure the amount of cotton inside the coil is the correct amount as usual.

 

[Jerms]

I've vaped some all vg juices in my KFL. It's important to use very little cotton, which I do with any juice. Thicker juice is more likely to have wicking problems there's too much cotton in the coil.

If the wick is fine, another option is to tighten up the draw. I noticed how tight the draw is makes a big difference to how much it wicks when taking a pull. I prefer a tighter draw than the KFL, so have a piece of tape over half the hole. Thick juices have been running as fine as thin. With the same build, if I remove the tape I have to take occasional dry pulls with thick juice.

 

[Snapdragon]

Sorry - I don't have a pic but will take one this weekend when I re-wick, but it does sound like it could be too much cotton to me. It makes sense that when you direct drip that it would work fine because your burning right off the coil but if your wick can't sustain that it's just not getting enough juice. The only logical reasons for that is your juice channels are blocked (too much cotton) or your wick is too thick (too much cotton). See, it's simple

My coils are on the larger side. I wrap them on a 2.35mm threaded screw which I think is 3/32"? and 7 wraps gives me a 1.3ohm.

One way I can tell if I have the right amount of cotton is, once it's through the coil I hold both ends slightly taut and make sure it slides back and forth very easily. You can actually see a space between the coil and the cotton (but only) when you're sliding it, there's no resistance, and it doesn't bunch up on either end of the coil when you let go.

My first few tries sounded a lot like yours so I cut the amount of cotton in half, was sure it wasn't enough, but it turned out perfect.

Also, I boil the organic cotton balls I use for about 20 minutes, drain and repeat, but I didn't do that the first time and I noticed that the absorbency is much less with a cotton ball that hasn't been boiled and although nothing was burning, my vape just felt dry.

I've never used rolled cotton because I can't find it up here for the life of me.

Hope this helps - let us know

ETS: I use the same wick with a 50/50 juice I have and it works fine for that too.

 

[Snapdragon]

Okay, a mildly funny what-not-to-do story that I can share with you because I know you won't tell anyone, and for sure you won't judge me ... harshly, or laugh too loud so that I can hear you ......

My first KFL+ wick was way tooooo dry. So, did I think to cut back on the cotton? Ohhh nooooo. Smart ... that I am, I got this great idea to syringe it out and ....... loosen the chimney just a tiny bit so that more juice could get to my wick. I know, I know......shuttup

I refilled it and it was awesome, for about 3 hauls, and then it started to gurgle, and then it got worse, and ........... when I finally took it a part again the chimney had come a lot more undone all by itself and there was juice everywhere. So that's when I decided to take another look at my wick ..........

Moral of the story? I haven't a clue, but let me know if you think of one

Blushing now, a lot.

 

[Jerms]

Okay, a mildly funny what-not-to-do story that I can share with you because I know you won't tell anyone, and for sure you won't judge me ... harshly, or laugh too loud so that I can hear you ......

My first KFL+ wick was way tooooo dry. So, did I think to cut back on the cotton? Ohhh nooooo. Smart ... that I am, I got this great idea to syringe it out and ....... loosen the chimney just a tiny bit so that more juice could get to my wick. I know, I know......shuttup

I refilled it and it was awesome, for about 3 hauls, and then it started to gurgle, and then it got worse, and ........... when I finally took it a part again the chimney had come a lot more undone all by itself and there was juice everywhere. So that's when I decided to take another look at my wick ..........

Moral of the story? I haven't a clue, but let me know if you think of one

Blushing now, a lot.

There IS a moral to the story.. The chimney doesn't make a very reliable adjustable juice flow mechanism.

 

[Snapdragon]

There IS a moral to the story.. The chimney doesn't make a very reliable adjustable juice flow mechanism.

Okay - who's the Smart ... now????

 

[Jerms]

Okay - who's the Smart ... now????

Hey, I did think it's a good lesson. Probably not a needed lesson, but a good one anyways. :thumbup:

 

[vapdivrr]

I promise to grow up one day!!!!

Believe it or not, but my 91 year old mother is 5 foot, 2 inches short.

at 6' 6" id say your there already.

 

[Ryd1ZZ]

So I got my clear KF parts the other day. Had to re-wick one of my KFL's today, so I decided to try out the clear chimney bits. It's pretty neat being able to see inside, watching the juice flow into the chamber and also seeing the chamber fill with vapor (when using a mirror lol). I also sanded down the top chimney part to nano length. It was super easy, and now I can use my nano tank with all drip tips. I'd say it's worth getting the whole kit just to get the plastic top chimney, and shorten it for nano tanks (if you have a short tank but full size chimney).

 

[Dusty_D]

I've vaped some all vg juices in my KFL. It's important to use very little cotton, which I do with any juice. Thicker juice is more likely to have wicking problems there's too much cotton in the coil.

If the wick is fine, another option is to tighten up the draw. I noticed how tight the draw is makes a big difference to how much it wicks when taking a pull. I prefer a tighter draw than the KFL, so have a piece of tape over half the hole. Thick juices have been running as fine as thin. With the same build, if I remove the tape I have to take occasional dry pulls with thick juice.

Did you try rolling up a bit of mesh in the air hole, Jerms?! I remember you saying you were going to try that..


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[Jerms]

Did you try rolling up a bit of mesh in the air hole, Jerms?! I remember you saying you were going to try that..


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Yeah. I gave up pretty easily on it though. The first couple tries made it way too tight. I made it smaller, and it got sucked up inside. Tightened the draw a little, but I was worried it might end up coming through the airhole and shorting the coil. Removed the center pin to fish it out and gave up.

I'm happy with tape. Just a small piece of transparent tape, can barely see it, and can set my draw exactly how I like it.

 

[scrutineer]

So I got my clear KF parts the other day. Had to re-wick one of my KFL's today, so I decided to try out the clear chimney bits. It's pretty neat being able to see inside, watching the juice flow into the chamber and also seeing the chamber fill with vapor (when using a mirror lol). I also sanded down the top chimney part to nano length. It was super easy, and now I can use my nano tank with all drip tips. I'd say it's worth getting the whole kit just to get the plastic top chimney, and shorten it for nano tanks (if you have a short tank but full size chimney).

So I've been wondering - I'm curious as to how far the juice travels up the vertical channels and the side of the deck during a draw, and if it then recedes back into the horizontal channels when the draw is complete and the pressures are equalizing?

I've noticed on my 3.1 (but not on the lites) that when my juice gets low in the clear window, I'll take a vape and the juice really drops down, stays there for a few seconds, and then slowly rises back up in the tank.

Kinda like I would expect it to work (??)