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I did that last time.
You get ten points for using the verb "slather".

I was making a P&J sandwich at the time. :)

It isn't the best solution (get mixed results). But it is harmless. As Q said, Vaseline (or even mineral oil) will work better. Not sure how well it vapes if it gets inside though. :)
 

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I was making a P&J sandwich at the time. :)

It isn't the best solution (get mixed results). But it is harmless. As Q said, Vaseline (or even mineral oil) will work better. Not sure how well it vapes if it gets inside though. :)

Yeah, I'm not entirely comfortable with that. I think I'll just stick with juice.
 

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are you sure that's correct? I cant imagine farmers, lab technicians, diabetic people, etc. doing without syringes. And out of curiosity, I googled "new york syringe law" and it appears legal.
Google'd it myself when I saw this and had an ah ha moment. The information began with "in 2000 the New York state legislature passed" which explains why I was wrong. I'm remembering from the late 90's when my friend had to have a prescription for an irrigation syringe which doesn't even have a point. Glad to know they've changed the law. Always seemed like a silly law anyway.

Personally I dislike using syringes because of the point, I stick myself. But what I do like are the 1 oz bottles that have a top made rather like the business end of a syringe that will take blunt (I'm sure they'd take pointy too) needle tips. Leur-Lok (or some similarly spelled name, I'm sure someone will correct me) green (20 or so gauge) were my go to size for using the bottles as glue applicators. I'm sure something slightly larger would be great for e-liquid. Something around 16 gauge, nice and big, which means easy to get liquid through, especially thick high VG mixtures. Although you might need smaller for special case atomizers. I just checked and green fits the kayfun mini bottom fill port and I can't believe that the 3.1 full sized Kayfun would require smaller.

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That's illegal here in the nanny state. My friend required a syringe to irrigate around some dental work. Had to have a prescription just to get one with a blunt tip needle. But for places where you aren't protected from yourself they're a nice cheap option.

Yes, I tend to forget they're illegal in a lot of places. Some online vendors of vaping stuff sell them tho (I've seen them at Kidney Puncher). What happens if you order one by mail? Won't they sell to you or is it a misdemeanor/crime to have one?
 

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I used to use just the basic plastic syringes until I bought a Pyrex one. It's like so smooth and effortless compared to plastic. Also when removing juice it's like the dyson, never looses suction.

My mom used to have one in the house complete with stainless boiling case. Guess they must have them at the local medical/hospital supplies store where I buy the hemostat plyers I use for building (minus locking steps). I'll check. However the plastic ones in 3 or 5 ml go for about US$0.50 so I guess the pyrex one won't be tempting if its price is something like $15... :(
 

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......Not sure if this is the right forum for this type of chat, but I made a big improvement in both of my Kayfun lites. They work so great now that I will share what I did!

Months ago, I increased the air inlet hole to 7/64" and yes, this created a somewhat more airy draw. But it still was a bit too restrictive. And I would get dry hits when I chain vaped. I did some research. I read somewhere that drilling the air tube helps just as much, so I used the same 7/64" drill and opened up the main air tube hole as well as the holes that go across and through the hollow tube. {7/64" drill again} -Finally, I chamfered the air hole up by the coil.

I also took a dremel and made the two vertical juice channels just a bit deeper. Nothing major here, but my FastTech Kayfuns looked like they were machined a little light in this area.

These changes make these attys wick fantastic, and the draw is airy enough to lung hits easily. I NEVER get dry hits anymore, or flooding for that matter. :D

Sorry if this has already been discussed but this thread is just too massive to completely read. ;) -Happy vaping to all of you!
 

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......Not sure if this is the right forum for this type of chat, but I made a big improvement in both of my Kayfun lites. They work so great now that I will share what I did!

Months ago, I increased the air inlet hole to 7/64" and yes, this created a somewhat more airy draw. But it still was a bit too restrictive. And I would get dry hits when I chain vaped. I did some research. I read somewhere that drilling the air tube helps just as much, so I used the same 7/64" drill and opened up the main air tube hole as well as the holes that go across and through the hollow tube. {7/64" drill again} -Finally, I chamfered the air hole up by the coil.

I also took a dremel and made the two vertical juice channels just a bit deeper. Nothing major here, but my FastTech Kayfuns looked like they were machined a little light in this area.

These changes make these attys wick fantastic, and the draw is airy enough to lung hits easily. I NEVER get dry hits anymore, or flooding for that matter. :D

Sorry if this has already been discussed but this thread is just too massive to completely read. ;) -Happy vaping to all of you!
I also have done everything you spoke of except drilling out the hole in center pin. So you have enlarged this hole? it seems like in my authentic, if i were to do this it would snap off because the hole looks maxed out already. How close does your center pin hole look now to being broken off by this enlargement?
 

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I also have done everything you spoke of except drilling out the hole in center pin. So you have enlarged this hole? it seems like in my authentic, if i were to do this it would snap off because the hole looks maxed out already. How close does your center pin hole look now to being broken off by this enlargement?

Vapdivrr, I checked the inside diameter of the air tube & cross hole before I drilled them out. They both were .070" and I enlarged all to 5/64" or .078"

You are totally safe to enlarge to this size. No danger of ruining the air tube. You could probably go even bigger, but I did not attempt. There are six "numbered drill bits" that are larger in small increments between 5/64" and the next fractional size of 3/32" {.094}..........

The small increase in size seems insignificant. But the diameter increase results in an over 24% increase in the hole's volume. The difference is dramatic when vaping. I think this is why I never get dry hits anymore. {more airflow, more suction to pull juice to the wicks} Try it. You'll like it!

Oh, one more thing. On both my Kayfuns, I also drilled out the inside diameter of the stock drip tip to 3/16" {.1875} and shortened them, too. It seems totally pointless to go with a huge drip tip on one of these when the internal air tube is so much smaller by comparison. :2c:
 

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The small increase in size seems insignificant. But the diameter increase results in an over 24% increase in the hole's volume. The difference is dramatic when vaping. I think this is why I never get dry hits anymore. {more airflow, more suction to pull juice to the wicks} :
By my calculations (based on a 25% increase in id size the restriction on the air flow through the tube would be cut by 50%. But one would have to draw on it with 50% more force to create the same pressure differential. I think your dry hits or lack of them had more to do with increasing the size of the juice channels.:2c:
 

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By my calculations (based on a 25% increase in id size the restriction on the air flow through the tube would be cut by 50%. But one would have to draw on it with 50% more force to create the same pressure differential. I think your dry hits or lack of them had more to do with increasing the size of the juice channels.:2c:

It truly feels as if the restriction IS reduced by 50% as the change is VERY noticeable and desirable to me. :)

Since I did the two mods at the same time, I will never know which makes them wick better {air delivery or juice channel} But I guess it does not really matter. I have gone through six tanks of juice between the two Kayfuns, and everything is performing PERFECT! :D:D:D
 

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By my calculations (based on a 25% increase in id size the restriction on the air flow through the tube would be cut by 50%. But one would have to draw on it with 50% more force to create the same pressure differential. I think your dry hits or lack of them had more to do with increasing the size of the juice channels.:2c:

I think this is correct. I mean, generally speaking, if you were to tighten up the draw / close up the airflow, that would increase suction, no?
 

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Vapdivrr, I checked the inside diameter of the air tube & cross hole before I drilled them out. They both were .070" and I enlarged all to 5/64" or .078"

You are totally safe to enlarge to this size. No danger of ruining the air tube. You could probably go even bigger, but I did not attempt. There are six "numbered drill bits" that are larger in small increments between 5/64" and the next fractional size of 3/32" {.094}..........

The small increase in size seems insignificant. But the diameter increase results in an over 24% increase in the hole's volume. The difference is dramatic when vaping. I think this is why I never get dry hits anymore. {more airflow, more suction to pull juice to the wicks} Try it. You'll like it!

Oh, one more thing. On both my Kayfuns, I also drilled out the inside diameter of the stock drip tip to 3/16" {.1875} and shortened them, too. It seems totally pointless to go with a huge drip tip on one of these when the internal air tube is so much smaller by comparison. :2c:
Maybe we are talking about a different part, I am talking about the hole going thru the center pin which in my authentic seems bigger then .70 to start. As I look thru this hole there just doesn't seem like much left if one were to drill it out and if one did, it certainly would be susceptible to being cracked. I wonder if it's possible that the authentic is bigger stock then .70, will check... thanks
 
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Wow, this is a clever way to increase airflow! I hope it holds the coil block secure enough. Seems it would have issues with electrical connectivity.

slotted kayfun air tube.jpg
 
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