I watched PBursaddos KGO review. The KGO w/ a sr clearomizer looks like a good setup for me. Id get the starter kit w/ the atty, charger, cones, & spare batty to cover all my bases. Maybe pickup one of those 5ml mega dual cartos too in case clearomizers dont workout. But...i dont want to wish I went with the E-Power instead. What would you do?
KGO or E-Power?
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i have both...and the only benefit to the epower is the replaceable battery. The downside of the epower is that the switch can be wonky, but that's replaceable, too. The Kgo though is tough as nails, and has never failed me. I got my kgo set from hoosier ecig supply, and I think it's a better vape than the current versions of the epower. Just my 2 cents...your mileage may vary 
There are severl major differences between them.
The main one is the use of replaceable batteries. All batteries die, or hold their charge for shorter and shorter periods as they age. When the kgo batt dies, you toss it and buy a new one for $15-20. When the e-Power batt dies, you replace it with a generic battery that might cost $5 or $10 for a super-duper quality battery. If you're going to be away from a charger for a long time, you can bring a handful of $5 batteries and vape for a week.
Keep in mind that the kGo battery is what it is. The e-Power performance will depend on the quality of the battery.
The other is the replaceable switch on the e-Power. It's about $10 if the switch fails.
The e-Power won't work with all ego type clearomizers and cartomizers. It will work with all the 510 stuff, but not everything that is specifically built for an eGo. The kGo is 100% ego compatible.
One more difference is that you can get the e-Power in the 18650 size. That allows you to use a battery up to 3100mah, or almost 3 times the battery capacity as the kGo. If that's important to you and you don't mind the bigger diameter, it might be worth it.
The main one is the use of replaceable batteries. All batteries die, or hold their charge for shorter and shorter periods as they age. When the kgo batt dies, you toss it and buy a new one for $15-20. When the e-Power batt dies, you replace it with a generic battery that might cost $5 or $10 for a super-duper quality battery. If you're going to be away from a charger for a long time, you can bring a handful of $5 batteries and vape for a week.
Keep in mind that the kGo battery is what it is. The e-Power performance will depend on the quality of the battery.
The other is the replaceable switch on the e-Power. It's about $10 if the switch fails.
The e-Power won't work with all ego type clearomizers and cartomizers. It will work with all the 510 stuff, but not everything that is specifically built for an eGo. The kGo is 100% ego compatible.
One more difference is that you can get the e-Power in the 18650 size. That allows you to use a battery up to 3100mah, or almost 3 times the battery capacity as the kGo. If that's important to you and you don't mind the bigger diameter, it might be worth it.
E-Power 14650, definitely... If you can call or e-mail the vendor to verify the following before purchase:
The E-Power 14650 you are purchasing is equipped with:
1. The following switch module:
-a. capable of operating 1.5 ohms or less cartos or attys
-b. regulates voltage at 510 connector to approximately 3.7 volts at no load
-c. includes 5-click switch disable option
-d. blue or white lighted color hard plastic switch button
2. Equipped with LR cartomizers, not attys or tank attys.
-a. kit should contain LR cartos. Both 1.7 XL and 2.0 XL would be optimal
3. Batteries
-a. kit should contain at least two protected 14650 batteries and a wall-wart single cell charger
4. Maybe asking too much...
-a. kit should contain at least one durable drip tip as a mouthpiece for the 510 XL carto.
If is does, buy it. This E-Power 14650 will give you durable service, consistent vaping experience and very good 1050mAh battery capacity: good for most users for about a day. Good protected 14650 ICR batteries are cheap. Less than $4 each if you know where to buy them. You can afford to have a week's worth of E-Power 14650 batteries charged up and ready to go for about the cost of two KGO 1-day batteries.
The E-Power 14650 you are purchasing is equipped with:
1. The following switch module:
-a. capable of operating 1.5 ohms or less cartos or attys
-b. regulates voltage at 510 connector to approximately 3.7 volts at no load
-c. includes 5-click switch disable option
-d. blue or white lighted color hard plastic switch button
2. Equipped with LR cartomizers, not attys or tank attys.
-a. kit should contain LR cartos. Both 1.7 XL and 2.0 XL would be optimal
3. Batteries
-a. kit should contain at least two protected 14650 batteries and a wall-wart single cell charger
4. Maybe asking too much...
-a. kit should contain at least one durable drip tip as a mouthpiece for the 510 XL carto.
If is does, buy it. This E-Power 14650 will give you durable service, consistent vaping experience and very good 1050mAh battery capacity: good for most users for about a day. Good protected 14650 ICR batteries are cheap. Less than $4 each if you know where to buy them. You can afford to have a week's worth of E-Power 14650 batteries charged up and ready to go for about the cost of two KGO 1-day batteries.
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Pbusardo. I love his reviews and watch them religiously. However, his review of E-Power 14650 was done about a year ago (first generation unit) and is seriously out of date. For instance, the Smoktech-designed switch module for the E-Power 14650 has gone through about a half-dozen versions during the last year. Many of the older versions are still for sale on the internet as new units. Best to keep up-to-date on equipment but Pbusardo is focusing lately on higher end VV units and not keeping up with all the lower cost APVs.
I hadn't realized that the e-Power was now regulated at 3.7V. That's actually a good move.
I wonder if that's a new thing as well?
I wonder if that's a new thing as well?
E-Power 14650 switches last long enough to be cost effective, certainly. You can replace the entire switch module (all electronics, switch and 510 connector for about $10). I'm using the E-Power 14650 all day long for the last seven months. I've had no switch failures to date.
The current switch module is a linear driver set to 3.7V, no boost driver capability on this single cell APV but how much do you expect at the E-Power 14650 or KGO price point?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/293033-what-mods-3-7-regulated.html
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Before I bought my Kgo, I was in stumped between it and the E-power. I called a vendor that sold both and asked him which was better, He said go with the Kgo. Yes you can replace the e-power battery, but by the time both Kgo batteries die you'll be on here asking " Provari or Buzz pro?"
I didn't expect any regulation at all. I thought it was like the kGo, or any single cell unregulated PV, starting at 4.1 or so and winding down unregulated. What happens when the actual cell voltage drops below 3.7, does it cut off at that point or just let it drop to 3.3 or something?
Edit: Nevermind, just read the rest of that thread. Someone was claiming the kGo is regulated as well. According to Hoosier it's not. He was showing 4V under load on a fresh battery with an SLB kGo. Maybe it depends on the manufacturer.
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The newest Epower switches work great with no issues, it was only the old switches that had problems, yet people still seem to use that as their reasoning to not get an Epower.
I've had an Epower for about 9 months and have never had a switch fail. I still even have the original switch that came with my Epower and it works fine, yet I don't really use it anymore bc I bought the newest one bc I wanted the 5-click on/off feature.
Personally I'd say go with the Epower. You can buy 4 Epower batteries for the cost of 1 kGo battery, and they last longer before they need to be replaced. With the Epower having replaceable parts, it is a lot cheaper to maintain bc you dont have to replace the entire unit Everytime any part goes bad. Also, I personally think its a lot easier to carry a spare battery for the Epower than to carry a spare battery for a kGo. With the kGo, if you want to carry a spare battery, or even 2 spare batteries bc your going to be away for awhile , you have no choice but to carry 2 PVs with you, or 3 PVs if you want 2 spares. (who has the pocket space to carry 3 PVs?). With the Epower though, you only have to carry one PV and the batteries are small so it's very easy to throw an extra or 2 in your pocket and If needed unscrew the switch and pop in a fresh battery. (Having to carry numerous kGos just so you can have a spare battery might not bother some people, but personally I think that's a PITA. Everyone's different so it's something to consider)
With the Epower batteries being so cheap, it's easy and won't break the bank to just buy 4-5 and never have to worry about not having a charged battery. I went on a camping trip with a buddy awhile back for a few days. He uses a kGo while I had an Epower. We both decided to buy 4 batteries to bring so we'd be good for the whole trip since there wouldn't be any outlets to charge. We ordered them together from a vendor that sold both to save on shipping. My buddy had to drop $72 + half the shipping cost to get 4 kGo spare batteries, while my 4 Epower batteries cost only $16 + half the shipping cost. I also ended up ordering a bunch of cartos to take also since my 4 Epower batts cost $2 less than the cost of one of his $18 kGo batteries.
I'm not saying that the kGo is a bad PV bc it's not at all and I honestly think you'd be really happy with either one, I just want you to see the pluses and minuses of both sides.
I can almost guarantee that the majority of the kGo users in this thread that recommended you get the kGo and talked trash on the Epower have never used or even touched an Epower. A lot of kGo users use the "the switch is problematic" statement as their reason you shouldn't get an Epower, but in reality most kGo users only say that bc they heard someone else say it about The first generation switches, which by the way did have problems. The newest switches work awesome though and are not problematic like the old switches from when the Epower first came out were. People say the Epower switches are so bad, but The kGo switches can at times be problematic too. One of my other friends that has a kGo has had to replace 2 batteries bc the switches had problems and stopped working, and he's also had the rubber button fall out of the device more than once.
Like I said, I really think you'd be happy with either one, just make sure you look at the positive and negatives of both devices and pick the one that you feel fits you best.
Goodluck!
I've had an Epower for about 9 months and have never had a switch fail. I still even have the original switch that came with my Epower and it works fine, yet I don't really use it anymore bc I bought the newest one bc I wanted the 5-click on/off feature.
Personally I'd say go with the Epower. You can buy 4 Epower batteries for the cost of 1 kGo battery, and they last longer before they need to be replaced. With the Epower having replaceable parts, it is a lot cheaper to maintain bc you dont have to replace the entire unit Everytime any part goes bad. Also, I personally think its a lot easier to carry a spare battery for the Epower than to carry a spare battery for a kGo. With the kGo, if you want to carry a spare battery, or even 2 spare batteries bc your going to be away for awhile , you have no choice but to carry 2 PVs with you, or 3 PVs if you want 2 spares. (who has the pocket space to carry 3 PVs?). With the Epower though, you only have to carry one PV and the batteries are small so it's very easy to throw an extra or 2 in your pocket and If needed unscrew the switch and pop in a fresh battery. (Having to carry numerous kGos just so you can have a spare battery might not bother some people, but personally I think that's a PITA. Everyone's different so it's something to consider)
With the Epower batteries being so cheap, it's easy and won't break the bank to just buy 4-5 and never have to worry about not having a charged battery. I went on a camping trip with a buddy awhile back for a few days. He uses a kGo while I had an Epower. We both decided to buy 4 batteries to bring so we'd be good for the whole trip since there wouldn't be any outlets to charge. We ordered them together from a vendor that sold both to save on shipping. My buddy had to drop $72 + half the shipping cost to get 4 kGo spare batteries, while my 4 Epower batteries cost only $16 + half the shipping cost. I also ended up ordering a bunch of cartos to take also since my 4 Epower batts cost $2 less than the cost of one of his $18 kGo batteries.
I'm not saying that the kGo is a bad PV bc it's not at all and I honestly think you'd be really happy with either one, I just want you to see the pluses and minuses of both sides.
I can almost guarantee that the majority of the kGo users in this thread that recommended you get the kGo and talked trash on the Epower have never used or even touched an Epower. A lot of kGo users use the "the switch is problematic" statement as their reason you shouldn't get an Epower, but in reality most kGo users only say that bc they heard someone else say it about The first generation switches, which by the way did have problems. The newest switches work awesome though and are not problematic like the old switches from when the Epower first came out were. People say the Epower switches are so bad, but The kGo switches can at times be problematic too. One of my other friends that has a kGo has had to replace 2 batteries bc the switches had problems and stopped working, and he's also had the rubber button fall out of the device more than once.
Like I said, I really think you'd be happy with either one, just make sure you look at the positive and negatives of both devices and pick the one that you feel fits you best.
Goodluck!
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I can't say if the *new* ones are; noticed on one vendor's site yesterday they claimed they had the newest switch with the *white* button (I thought the newest one was blue) and I believe they said it was UNregulated. Well, my E-Power has the older blue-button switch from before they started fiddling with 'em; I was certain it was regulated at around 3.7 volts so I tested it this morning with a fresh battery & sho' 'nuf, it read 3.67 volts (close enough for me).
Anyway I'll generally have to agree with yzer on this: *If* you can verify what the vendor is selling has the regulated, non-wonky switch that won't balk when it sees a 1.5 Ohm (or less) atty, the E-Power 14650 is a sweetheart. Otherwise (and even though I've never actually seen one) I'd get the KGO. As far as all the other bells & whistles for the E-Power... cartos, atty/cartridge setups, tanks, etc... if the kit includes any of that I'd like it to be stuff I can use: Smoktech XL Single Coil 1.7 Ohm cartos, Boge LR 2.0 Ohm cartos, etc. Otherwise a barebones unit would be fine with me; I can probably source out the batteries & charger cheaper elsewhere & cherry-pick the feed units I want from wherever.
All that said, for a newbee the best bet with the least hassle & biggest bang for the buck is probably the KGO. Unless you can be certain the vendor is supplying (and will stand behind) a reliable, quality switch on the E-Power I'd be reluctant to recommend it at the moment. (BTW mine does not have the "5-click cutoff function" and so far I haven't set my shirt or beard on fire a single time!)
Happy Vaping!
AFAIK they didn't have a switch problem until they decided to "fix" something that wasn't broken. The eGo came out with their famous "5-click safety feature" thingy and Smoktech apparently thought it was such a good idea they did it on the E-Power & rushed it to market without testing it first. Meanwhile, yzer & I are still calmly vaping our brains out on our terribly unsafe, outdated but trouble-free E-Powers, at least one of us wondering what all the fuss is about. Old saying: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
BTW here's what I ran across yesterday about the "new switch", & now I'm wondering about it... if Smoktech shipped it from older stock, or if it was even made by Smoktech, or what: http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?pag..._color_plus.tpl&product_id=280&category_id=22 Maybe that's the way they're making 'em now? I dunno....
Id go with KGO.
Love mine. Girlfriend loves hers. U get two batteries. No switches to worry about going bad. No batteries to take out and charge. Just a bit less hassle. And its smaller.
Love mine. Girlfriend loves hers. U get two batteries. No switches to worry about going bad. No batteries to take out and charge. Just a bit less hassle. And its smaller.
I love my E-Power. Have had no problems with the switch and like being able to carry extra batts with me. I've had it for 4 months now and like it more each day.
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