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I'm surprised that PV designers haven't used the 14650 battery more often. The diameter is the same as an ordinary AA battery but protected 14650 is about 3/4" longer. Approximately 1000mAh (1Ah) battery capacity seems to be big favorite, too.

I would assume KGO, Riva, Ego with 1000mah or more use the same 14650 batt. The size is closest to it. Reason why they mostly have good reviews. After all, they're just batteries with switching devices. I also suspect Ego 650mah uses the 14500 batt.

I also wonder why E-Power is the only mod you can find that carry the 14650 batt. It's common knowledge that E-Power has switch issues. Their latest switch mod warns that 2.0ohm or less doesn't work well. You have to start with 2.2ohm. This is not the case with KGO, Egos, or anything similar.
 

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I'm surprised that PV designers haven't used the 14650 battery more often. The diameter is the same as an ordinary AA battery but protected 14650 is about 3/4" longer. Approximately 1000mAh (1Ah) battery capacity seems to be big favorite, too.

I can kind of see why they don't use the 14650 that much. The 14500 is about 3/4" shorter, the same size as an AA, and the AW ICRs, at least, are 750mah. A lot of flashlights use them as well. I have flashlights that take an AA or a 14500 in the same tube. If I was designing a PV, I'd probably go with the 14500 for compatibility reasons. That 3/4" is a lot when added to a 2" long battery.
 

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I also wonder why E-Power is the only mod you can find that carry the 14650 batt. It's common knowledge that E-Power has switch issues. Their latest switch mod warns that 2.0ohm or less doesn't work well. You have to start with 2.2ohm. This is not the case with KGO, Egos, or anything similar.
I don't think that's the case anymore. The latest switches are o.k. with 1.25ohms.
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I purchased an E-power 14650 3.7 regulated about two weeks ago on sale for $37. I use lr 1.7 sc cartomizers with it.
Prior to that I have an 808 thread ego, 900 mah battery rated at 4.2v unregulated. And the E-power produces alot more vapor consistantly from start to charge.

Both usually are side by side and I grap the e-power everytime because it is a much better vape.

My ego takes 8 to 9 hours to charge and the e-power 3 to 4 hours.

True, I don't have a kgo.

At the price point you probably won't be disapionted is either. And I always fell if I get 4 to 6 months out of equipment then I have gotten my moneys worth.
 

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I don't think that's the case anymore. The latest switches are o.k. with 1.25ohms.
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Smoktek.com still has this warning:

NOTE: This revision of the switch will NOT run low resistance devices reliably but performs great at 2.2 ohms and higher.


If this is the case, KGO, or similar devices, seems more attractive considering the kit goes with two full KGO devices. If as you say they last at least six months before they die. Two would equate to one year, which is not bad for 40 bucks.
 

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I purchased an E-power 14650 3.7 regulated about two weeks ago on sale for $37. I use lr 1.7 sc cartomizers with it.
Prior to that I have an 808 thread ego, 900 mah battery rated at 4.2v unregulated. And the E-power produces alot more vapor consistantly from start to charge.

Both usually are side by side and I grap the e-power everytime because it is a much better vape.

My ego takes 8 to 9 hours to charge and the e-power 3 to 4 hours.

True, I don't have a kgo.

At the price point you probably won't be disapionted is either. And I always fell if I get 4 to 6 months out of equipment then I have gotten my moneys worth.

You must have been using the wrong type of charger for the ego. I've never heard of an ego battery that took 9 hours to charge.
 

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Smoktek.com still has this warning:

NOTE: This revision of the switch will NOT run low resistance devices reliably but performs great at 2.2 ohms and higher.

If this is the case, KGO, or similar devices, seems more attractive considering the kit goes with two full KGO devices. If as you say they last at least six months before they die. Two would equate to one year, which is not bad for 40 bucks.
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Smoktek.com (not to be confused with Smoktech, who build the E-Power 14650) must be selling the old white LED switch that appeared last winter.

There are two versions of the latest E-Power 14650 switch. These became available starting February 2012. Here are the distinguishing features of the latest switch...

1. White or blue colored LED as switch button light.
2. Hard plastic button.
3. Regulated 3.7V at 510 connector.
4. Fires LR devices as low as 1.25 or 1.5 ohms.
5. Five-click switch disable for safe pocket carry.

I purchased two of these switches from Hoosier in March to upgrade older switches that didn't feature the 5-click safety. They have the blue LED buttons.
 
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No. Smoktek.com (not to be confused with Smoktech, who build the E-Power 14650) must be selling the old white LED switch that appeared last winter. There are two versions of the latest E-Power 14650 switch. These became available starting February 2012. Here are the distinguishing features of the latest switch... 1. White or blue colored LED as switch button light. 2. Hard plastic button. 3. Regulated 3.7V at 510 connector. 4. Fires LR devices as low as 1.25 or 1.5 ohms. 5. Five-click switch disable for safe pocket carry. I purchased two of these switches from Hoosier in March to upgrade older switches that didn't feature the 5-click safety. They have the blue LED buttons.
That's good. I just hope/wish they stop selling the old ones, return them back to the manufacturer and replace them with the newest revision. Kind of silly to buy a 3.7V device that doesn't work well on LR cartos.
 

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That's good. I just hope/wish they stop selling the old ones, return them back to the manufacturer and replace them with the newest revision. Kind of silly to buy a 3.7V device that doesn't work well on LR cartos.
I agree. There isn't much point having a 3.7V APV that won't handle LR under 2.2 ohms.

Buying an E-Power 14650 that won't do under 2.2 ohms could be a deal if the price was low enough. Low enough to let you buy the new switch module from CCV and toss the old one.
 

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No.
Smoktek.com (not to be confused with Smoktech, who build the E-Power 14650) must be selling the old white LED switch that appeared last winter.

There are two versions of the latest E-Power 14650 switch. These became available starting February 2012. Here are the distinguishing features of the latest switch...

1. White or blue colored LED as switch button light.
2. Hard plastic button.
3. Regulated 3.7V at 510 connector.
4. Fires LR devices as low as 1.25 or 1.5 ohms.
5. Five-click switch disable for safe pocket carry.

I purchased two of these switches from Hoosier in March to upgrade older switches that didn't feature the 5-click safety. They have the blue LED buttons.

This is true. Mine has the blue led button. 1.7 lr carto's came with the kit and was what the supplier recommeded.

I think it is ashame that the e-power is steered away from because of the old switches. This was the reason that stopped me from getting one a while back. I am very happy that I gave it a try after lots of research and careful questions to the supplier I purchased from.

In the end I think you have to decide what are you willing to pay for replacements. $14 to $25 or $4 to $6.

I prefer the $4 to $6 and spend the money on what I am putting on the end of it.
 

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I don't think that's the case anymore. The latest switches are o.k. with 1.25ohms.
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I was looking at this one, in fact that is what i will order, it seems like the best deal for sure.. as far as the juice , i think i will try blueberry but not sure, any advice? , i might get a drip tip just to see what that is all about..

Thanks for posting that.. i was looking on a site with older "classic model" bad choice based on what i now know..
 

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I was looking at this one, in fact that is what i will order, it seems like the best deal for sure.. as far as the juice , i think i will try blueberry but not sure, any advice? , i might get a drip tip just to see what that is all about..

Thanks for posting that.. i was looking on a site with older "classic model" bad choice based on what i now know..
Honestly, I've never had the juice from CCV. I can tell you though, that I'm a blueberry juice aficionado and so far, I've only had one that I really liked. It seems like blueberry is very difficult to get right. It's either too weak, or too candy-like. I wouldn't get that much blueberry of an unknown quality. I'd pick something easier for the juice maker. Just sayin'.
 

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I was looking at this one, in fact that is what i will order, it seems like the best deal for sure.. as far as the juice , i think i will try blueberry but not sure, any advice? , i might get a drip tip just to see what that is all about..

Thanks for posting that.. i was looking on a site with older "classic model" bad choice based on what i now know..

Make sure whomever you purchase from is a registered supplier and offers a fairly decent warranty and you should be fine.
You may find that the "fruitier" juices do better with a slightly higher resistance LR device. I use a "fairly fruity" lightly flavored tobacco juice and find that 2.0 ohms tastes a lot better than 1.7 ohms on LR cartos with regulated 3.7V.
 

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I haven't tried Halo yet. I buy 30ml bottles of e-liquid from Vapor for Life. The smaller Halo G6 system is very different from E-Power 14650 or KGO which use 510 series cartos/attys and offer 1000mAh battery power. The larger APVs are still pocket-sized but can meet the demands of users who used to smoke 1-2 packs per day. KGO or E-Power 14650 will deliver lots of vapor on LR cartos/attys and last most users all day between battery recharges.
 

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510 cartos should work with both the halo or epower correct? I have a CIGIREX and i need to find out what the MAH is. I am using it while i decide what to buy next.. unfortunately for me i had to buy 5 cartos from CIGIREX for $26 at the local store.. but i like the taste they are menthol. I actually think i should have paid 20 , i think the place i went was high.. but i love how i can get them for 10 online and probably much better..
 

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I don't think the Halo is a 510. Judging from the pic on the website it looks like an 808. Usually, the little e-cigs are KR808 or some other, less common, thread. Except of course the Joye 510 which is, strangely enough, a 510. The 510 cartos work with the e-Power though and you can get an 808/510 adapter.
 
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