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Good, man. With the same girl, we bought a Cape Cod about 40 miles northwest of the apartment we had back when you visited.

I see you upgraded also, man. Cali, nice....

If you need any help vaping related just pm me for stuff. Been making eliquids for almost a year now, have liters of nic and bookcases of eliquids here at the house.

Grats on quitting the cigs, Fin.
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Awesome and thanks. Feb 4th at 5:30pm was the last cig. :)

I think I'll be trying DIY juice soon. So I'll hit you up for sure.
 

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In regards to Killer 705..... I have 2X from a couple months ago SN in 500s, third one SN 7xx, and newest, just received SN 1xxx. I don't see any revisions and the latest vapes like the earlier ones.

I am extremely sensitive to any manufacturing residue so I boil them first intact, that is just unscrew base from cap; three fresh water boils. I suspend a metal strainer into pot. Then dry a bit and hold a paper towel or anthing absorbent gently on wick to remove excess water and then a dry burn.

Torching.... It seems that I read earlier about someone having trouble getting the ceramic cup off center post and having to break it to get it off. So the other night I was doing a recoiling and good cleaning of the three oldest. I patted off excess juice and immersed the three in the boiling water using strainer before taking old coils off. One I used for five weeks, one three weeks, and one less than two weeks dryburning daily and good torching every few days. Then removed the cups. The one I used five weeks, with at least 15 heavy torchings over that time...... the ceramic cup was "fused" to center post. I had to break it and then use dremel to remove rest of ceramic fused to post. The cups on the other two slipped off easily. I don't know if the "fused" cup was a coincidence or from so many heavy torchings.

To keep silica intact and non fraying when doing recoil of Killer and eBaron to clean silica I recoil then a quick dip in boiling water, pat dry and then dryburn. For other wicks, for other type builds with more exposed wicks I do the build, attach, and do a quick dryburn, and very light torch of wick using lowest temp with torch. RBAs with posts for attaching positive and negative end of coil typically have insulation for positive post in base that is easily melted with too much heat so you have to keep the torch heat low to avoid melting post insulation.

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I'm curious about that. How exactly do you go about it? Take the ceramic cup, wick, and coil assembly out and torch the coil covered silica? Or something different?

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Degunking coil and wick improves flavor significantly.

I torch with everything intact. A good dryburning helps if not torching. Also you can take cap off and run under hot water to get wick pretty clean, squeeze wick gently with absorbent paper or cloth, then dryburn to get coil gunk and gunky wick inside coil clean. Be sure to get water and/or juice squeezed out before dryburning.

See above post about possible correlation between excessive high heat torching and "fused on" ceramic cup.

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Degunking coil and wick improves flavor significantly.

I torch with everything intact. A good dryburning helps if not torching. Also you can take cap off and run under hot water to get wick pretty clean, squeeze wick gently with absorbent paper or cloth, then dryburn to get coil gunk and gunky wick inside coil clean. Be sure to get water and/or juice squeezed out before dryburning.

See above post about possible correlation between excessive high heat torching and "fused on" ceramic cup.

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Gotcha. That process (sans torching) is pretty much what I do with my IGO-Ls with regards to de-juicing a wick/coil. Thanks!
 

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If I were you I would forget about the Reomizer. The posts break off easily and the teeny tiny screws strip. The Killer is a nice RBA but it doesn't have a stiff draw and I don't think there have been any revisions yet. I could be wrong but I haven't heard of any. Remember though, the killer can be used as a dripper, a bottom feeder or in a tank. It's very versatile.

There is a new Reomizer being released tomorrow. Robert modded a dripping clone to be bottom feeder BF RBA. It wasn't as tough as he wanted so he pulled them from his sight available only special request. The ver2 is, again one he has modded, but he says they will be sturdier. The base, inside, is ceramic platform. No NR wire will be needed as with ceramic cup styles.

As far as draw..... A7s and Reomizer are way too airy for me without modification. ERA and Hornet are just about perfect for me but a lot of peeps drill the cap hole larger to give more air. I like a pretty stiff draw. The Killer as BF or dripper is perfect for me as is eBaron.

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If I were you I would forget about the Reomizer. The posts break off easily and the teeny tiny screws strip. The Killer is a nice RBA but it doesn't have a stiff draw and I don't think there have been any revisions yet. I could be wrong but I haven't heard of any. Remember though, the killer can be used as a dripper, a bottom feeder or in a tank. It's very versatile.

I initially had an issue with Killer being so airy as to be unusable for BF or dripper until I discovered that the adapter was needed.

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For me, the weakest part of the ceramic cup Greek RBA is the negative wire that comes out and makes contact with base and cap screw threads. The only reason I had to recoil the five week and three week heavily used Killers was the wire breaking from so much stress screwing cap on and off daily. And as they got near the "end" in order for the negative wire to make good contact with cap off, for dryburn, I had to hold cap against wire so it made full contact with base threads. MY JUICE GUNKS EVERYTHING. Slightly less for coil in a ViVi Nova or such but it may just be that those tanks are used much less than any atty or carto on my REOs that usually see 16-18 hours use in a typical day. (I don't sleep much and most of time in environments where I can vape constantly if I choose.)

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Does anyone have info on how you might wrap a silica wick coil on the killer with no nr wire? I've heard of people trying it but I'm not quite sure how that would work...

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I haven't done that yet. But keep in mind that using only R wire you will be adding considerably to the ohms due to increased resistance due to increased length of R wire. With the amount of wire that is outside the coil and cup I would expect the ohm value of coil only to be double or tripled or more. With a post attached coil the resistance ends at posts. Not so with ceramic cup style.

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There is a new Reomizer being released tomorrow. Robert modded a dripping clone to be bottom feeder BF RBA. It wasn't as tough as he wanted so he pulled them from his sight available only special request. The ver2 is, again one he has modded, but he says they will be sturdier. The base, inside, is ceramic platform. No NR wire will be needed as with ceramic cup styles.

As far as draw..... A7s and Reomizer are way too airy for me without modification. ERA and Hornet are just about perfect for me but a lot of peeps drill the cap hole larger to give more air. I like a pretty stiff draw. The Killer as BF or dripper is perfect for me as is eBaron.

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Thanks Alice. I just found out about the revised Reomizer yesterday. I hope you are getting one and will let us know what you think. I'll be watching the REO mods forum. :)
 

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I hadn't heard of torching silica before. What's involved & what are the expected benefits? BTW, I was tinkering w/my killer last nite & one of the NR wires broke. Since rebuilding supplies haven't arrived my killer is dead in the water for now. Danggit.

Cleans the silica. Brute force de-gunking.

If the broken NR wire is still around an inch (or a bit less) long you can just twist it onto the resistance wire, no? No resistant wire to use at all?
 

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Got my Killer today -about 2 hours ago actually. All I have to say is: anyone wanna buy 15 Boge LR cartos? Just kidding, but this thing is that awesome; I can't see going back to cartos after some time with the Killer. Also, if anyone out there is wondering, it does work just fine in Prive "Special" tank by Kir Fanis. I had heard some things about the juice control not working right in that tank, but that appears to be untrue.
 

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I can see lots of people torching, dry-burning and keeping their setups for weeks.

Is it just me with steeped tobacco juices that recoils daily or every other day? I haven't found dry-burning efficient and all that dryburn, torch, wash dry seems a lot of hassle for a coil and 8 cms of silica....Plus I would need at least 4 killers to be able to vape while mantaining the other two. With recoiling, it takes 10-15 minutes for 2 killers + 1 dripper...

As for the cost of recoiling daily, if it's 40-60 cents, in comparison to analogs, I guess I can have this...

Any advantages of using a setup for long period of times (aside from the cost)?
 

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Got my Killer today -about 2 hours ago actually. All I have to say is: anyone wanna buy 15 Boge LR cartos? Just kidding, but this thing is that awesome; I can't see going back to cartos after some time with the Killer. Also, if anyone out there is wondering, it does work just fine in Prive "Special" tank by Kir Fanis. I had heard some things about the juice control not working right in that tank, but that appears to be untrue.

I am playing with the killer in a trap tank and price tanks. The only issue I am having is that the fit is tight which makes it a little difficult to adjust the juice control. With a tight fitting drip trip, I can at times control the juice control, while other times the upper section loosens instead. Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this with trap or Prive tanks and the killer.
 

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I am playing with the killer in a trap tank and price tanks. The only issue I am having is that the fit is tight which makes it a little difficult to adjust the juice control. With a tight fitting drip trip, I can at times control the juice control, while other times the upper section loosens instead. Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this with trap or Prive tanks and the killer.

This is a common problem with a lot of tanks. Somebody a couple pages back said he was using the killer in a tank and didn't have any problems with the juice control but I don't remember which tank it was. Sorry.
 

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Thanks Alice. I just found out about the revised Reomizer yesterday. I hope you are getting one and will let us know what you think. I'll be watching the REO mods forum. :)

I'll be getting at least one to try. They fit all the smaller REO wells but probably not many of the brass catch cups on wood REOS. They are pretty fat but short.

I, also, have a couple of Italian mcARBs arriving any day. They are very similar, in build, to Killer and eBaron but fitted cap and pretty short. They fit the Mini wells, too.

I'm still going to play with plugging air holes on Killer so can use without adapter. Just need to find the time. Going to use removable silicone caulk before doing permanent fix with non toxic JB Weld.

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