idk what it is but it's such a small percentage and I first tried it at least a year ago and I'm still alive.
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YIKES! That's not too reassuring.
But I have been finding I like it better, since it doesn't alter flavors. I used to be a menthol smoker - but with the pre-mixed menthols I've tried, they're nothing but straight menthol so far - so I've given up on vendor menthols. Maybe some koolada with a diluted menthol mix and tobacco flavoring might work.
It seems that with that supplier, it may still be a liquid they're selling. But at least I have a chemical name to try and find the crystals themselves now. Although, given that info I'm wondering if it could be 'poisonous' like nicotine - like the reason why regular consumers can't buy straight nicotine powder. (Which I certainly wouldn't want to, btw.) Maybe these crystals need to be treated the same way..??
Where's one of our chemists at?
A lot of warning are lawyer cover your ... language. If you head the advice of the FDA and other goverment bodies nothing we vape has been tested enought to determine that it is not harmful.
Well over fifty years ago all the smokng adults told us kids that smoking was very bad for us. Many years ago smoking commercals were bane from TV and tobacco products have carried all kinds of warning lables for many years and yet smokers ,thier families and even non smokers are still suing the tobaco companies as if they were not protected enough from themselfs.
Never heard of crystal form of Nicotine. Reason why 100 mg per ml is strongest available to us is safety as even that level must be handled with extreme care. 100% Nic is 1,000 mg per ml and is extremly posionious and since liqid Nicotine is easily absorbed thru the skin and way to many folks are careless.
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Yeah - that's true of the many warnings on things.
About the crystals -- I was referring to koolada crystals. All I seem to find is the crystals already dissolved in PG, not just the crystals themselves. Since I already have a ton of PG, I don't need more PG shipped to me. I could easily do the mixing myself. That's why I was wondering if it was similar to nicotine hazards in that respect.
Plus - I kinda like the mad-scientist aspect of doing the mixing myself. I already had a cheap milligram scale that I originally bought for loose-leaf tea (I was sampling many different teas).. And now I have an ultrasonic cleaner to do the mixing for me. I wanna play with mytoys - I mean, tools.
About the crystals -- I was referring to koolada crystals. All I seem to find is the crystals already dissolved in PG, not just the crystals themselves. Since I already have a ton of PG, I don't need more PG shipped to me. I could easily do the mixing myself. That's why I was wondering if it was similar to nicotine hazards in that respect.
Plus - I kinda like the mad-scientist aspect of doing the mixing myself. I already had a cheap milligram scale that I originally bought for loose-leaf tea (I was sampling many different teas).. And now I have an ultrasonic cleaner to do the mixing for me. I wanna play with my
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How do you know Koolada's origin are crystals? Lol. I know what you mean about making your own liquids using crystals though. I've done it with E.M. and it's SO much cheaper. I haven't even used the one 8ML vial I bought over a year ago. Was like under $2 too.
Yeah - that's true of the many warnings on things.
About the crystals -- I was referring to koolada crystals. All I seem to find is the crystals already dissolved in PG, not just the crystals themselves. Since I already have a ton of PG, I don't need more PG shipped to me. I could easily do the mixing myself. That's why I was wondering if it was similar to nicotine hazards in that respect.
Plus - I kinda like the mad-scientist aspect of doing the mixing myself. I already had a cheap milligram scale that I originally bought for loose-leaf tea (I was sampling many different teas).. And now I have an ultrasonic cleaner to do the mixing for me. I wanna play with mytoys- I mean, tools.
The first DIY 5ml I just made this past week, I added a small drop of koolada to it, and it's more menthol-y at 1 drop/5ml than I would like. How can you do less than a drop? Half a drop? lol I understand making a larger sample of say 10ml, then trying 1 drop to see if that works. But, I would prefer to waste the smallest amount of juice I can.
At smaller quantities, does the koolada add an almost coconut-like smoothness to a fruit mix? I was hoping for something more like this than an actual menthol-like effect. Is there another product that produces that other than koolada?
At smaller quantities, does the koolada add an almost coconut-like smoothness to a fruit mix? I was hoping for something more like this than an actual menthol-like effect. Is there another product that produces that other than koolada?
You can make a new mixture, using PG as a base and add to juices from it. You'll have more control that way. Either that or use a syringe. Syringe drops tend to be smaller than bottle top drops
It's good, you can use it in percentages for an "Icy" effect too, not just in tiny drips for faint/slight cooling like you mentioned.
1-2% = Icy
2-3% = Freezing Breath, lips starting to freeze
3-4.5% = Too much, I'm forzen!
5%+ = Cough/Hack (Too much to use for real)
I feel like an idiot after reading that. I used 15% in one of my batches. Well lets just say I am waiting until its blistering outsidw until I use it again. Seriously kicked me down.
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15% is WAY too much. I've only added drops to my mixes... not even whole percents. I couldn't even imagine. I don't even think they recommend using that much menthol
You can always dilute it if it's too strong (1ml Koolada, 9ml PG)
Save that strong 10 ml of Koolada! I purposefully made a 15% batch of Koolada to add a drop or two into my clearo with some other flavor I've made that doesn't have it. I like fruity mixes/flavors and sometimes get bored with them and then add a drop or two of the strong Koolada just to give it a twist of something different. I've also made a strong bottle of menthol and crème de menthe just to change things up a bit as well to add into my clearo now and then. As a side note I didn't think I'd like the crème de menthe with fruit flavors but it's actually pretty good.
Hmmmmmm.. You know.. Now I don't know. I swore I saw on the TPA site, but having just looked, it's not there. I swore I saw it somewhere though. Maybe on a forum. Or maybe I saw "10% PG" and just assumed it was crystals. I did some google searches and still couldn't find it as being crystals. hmmm..
<scratches head>
Well, at least I have a starting point to look for it at some point - menthyl methyl lactate. Whatever form it's in.
I just got a 15ml bottle from TPA. I was also going to get 4 more ounces from Heartland Vapes for only $11.25 when their 100-nic is back in stock. But if you still have a lot, maybe I'll wait on that and get some other flavor there instead. Not sure now. Now I'm curious as to how long the koolada keeps, cause I have a feeling I'm going to use it a lot at varying percentages in mixes.
---EDIT: Doh! I just realized you were talking about a 8ml bottle of EM crystals. In that, I just got a 30ml bottle. I was worried it wasn't going to be enough to last, and successfully fought the urge to get the 4oz from TPA. HA!
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That's also an awesome idea about doing a 10/15% (or maybe 50%?) dilution of it for adding in test batches and clearos.
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Yeah.. I don't know either. Have you tried other people's Koolada-like additives? I saw some kind of "Artic-Ice" thing on ECIGX I believe... Was tempted to get it. I've tried Spearmint, Menthol and Creme de Menthe from TPA and Cool Mint from Capella's... Didn't care for any of them but I love mint.
Hmmmmmm.. You know.. Now I don't know. I swore I saw on the TPA site, but having just looked, it's not there. I swore I saw it somewhere though. Maybe on a forum. Or maybe I saw "10% PG" and just assumed it was crystals. I did some google searches and still couldn't find it as being crystals. hmmm..
<scratches head>
Well, at least I have a starting point to look for it at some point - menthyl methyl lactate. Whatever form it's in.
I just got a 15ml bottle from TPA. I was also going to get 4 more ounces from Heartland Vapes for only $11.25 when their 100-nic is back in stock. But if you still have a lot, maybe I'll wait on that and get some other flavor there instead. Not sure now. Now I'm curious as to how long the koolada keeps, cause I have a feeling I'm going to use it a lot at varying percentages in mixes.
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That's also an awesome idea about doing a 10/15% (or maybe 50%?) dilution of it for adding in test batches and clearos.
I quite possibly could have been me that suggested it because I tell everyone that will listen about Koolada. Put it this way, if I had to pick between my husband of 30 years or my Koolada..............well let's just say I would miss him.
Nope, haven't tried anyone else's menthyl methyl lactate yet.. But if that 100nic from Heartland ever gets back in stock, I may not even have to look for the base form for quite a while as I'll probably just go for their 4 ounces. I'd assume they're all the same, save for any difference in 'taste' from whichever PG they use. OTOH, since so little will need to be used per mix, I'm not sure the PG differences would affect the outcomes at all.
I've boughten 2 different mint flavorings - spearmint from TPA, and a different type from a place (can't remember) where I bought lanyards for my Vamo V3 and Innokin SVD. Haven't used them yet because I'm still working on a pre-mix bought from FT: a 30ml bottle of "Liqua" mint. Very good. It tastes like the TPA spearmint smells. I also haven't used koolada much yet - actually only messed with a some drops to some things at this point - but I bet it going to be vital for the mint and fruit types especially.
I'm reading and following this thread with great interest. My daughters boy friend just took up vaping in hopes of getting off methol analogs and loves some of my mixes. He just wishes I could make some for him as a menthol. But he's concerned adding menthol will mask the flavor of my mixes. So koolada is the answer yes? A cool sensation without masking the tobacco flavors.
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Absolutely right. No taste at all, such as that nasty mentholated medicine taste that reminds me of chest rub. Cool sensation in mouth/throat, and a little goes a long LONG way!
I used to smoke menthols-only before Chantix. And long story, short.. Of the 3 menthol vendor mixes I've tried, they seemed to be nothing but almost straight menthol - which weren't even like the menthols I used to smoke, "Tourney" and then later "L&M".
So what I'm in the process of starting, is trying some tobacco flavoring mixes - replicated flavoring only in my case, since I want to avoid as much possibility of carcinogens as I can. I think I may use koolada, and maybe even a double dilution type of scenario of TFA's Menthol flavoring (I bought their liquid version before finding out how to deal with the crystals). Not sure of percentages yet, though.
The trouble is that I have NO CLUE of what I want the base tobacco to be since I don't really have experience with non-menthols that I can remember. So far for flavorings, I have [TFA-only] 15mls of Red Type and Tobacco, and 4ml of DK Type. I'm likely going to get from Heartland, RY4 Double(TFA) and Cowboy Blend(TFA) - only available there as 4oz, but cheap enough for me to try. If figure if I don't care for them much I can do the swap thing I read about here or most likely just use them as portions of multi-mixes, which the tobacco-only people seem to do automatically anyways.
So far the test batches are ~2 weeks old.. They haven't been GUCE'd yet since I bought the ultrasonic after making the test mixes and I haven't gotten around to it yet. The Red Type seems pretty good though after trying it for the first time today in a dripper, although I don't think I should have put 2 drops EM-10% in only 6ml of mix (drop size being from FT squeeze bottles which I haven't measured yet). But still pretty good/interesting. Soon I'll start experimenting with adding koolada and menthol to some of those - although I haven't decided just how I'm going to go about that as of yet.
So what I'm in the process of starting, is trying some tobacco flavoring mixes - replicated flavoring only in my case, since I want to avoid as much possibility of carcinogens as I can. I think I may use koolada, and maybe even a double dilution type of scenario of TFA's Menthol flavoring (I bought their liquid version before finding out how to deal with the crystals). Not sure of percentages yet, though.
The trouble is that I have NO CLUE of what I want the base tobacco to be since I don't really have experience with non-menthols that I can remember. So far for flavorings, I have [TFA-only] 15mls of Red Type and Tobacco, and 4ml of DK Type. I'm likely going to get from Heartland, RY4 Double(TFA) and Cowboy Blend(TFA) - only available there as 4oz, but cheap enough for me to try. If figure if I don't care for them much I can do the swap thing I read about here or most likely just use them as portions of multi-mixes, which the tobacco-only people seem to do automatically anyways.
So far the test batches are ~2 weeks old.. They haven't been GUCE'd yet since I bought the ultrasonic after making the test mixes and I haven't gotten around to it yet. The Red Type seems pretty good though after trying it for the first time today in a dripper, although I don't think I should have put 2 drops EM-10% in only 6ml of mix (drop size being from FT squeeze bottles which I haven't measured yet). But still pretty good/interesting. Soon I'll start experimenting with adding koolada and menthol to some of those - although I haven't decided just how I'm going to go about that as of yet.
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My friend still smokes and he has me making Tobacco mixes for him to replicate Camel Crush.
I've mixed Menthol, Menthol and Koolada over and over trying to find that perfect Puff for him only to have him say this isn't it. Ifinally found one he really likes
HS Indian 3%
Menthol 5% (Crystals mixed 50/50)
I need a throatectomy after reading that. Hopefully he can quit those nasty expensive analogs - and then realize there's so much more than just boring ol' menthol flavor. I'd say menthol tobacco, but....
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