Leaford, QC concern.

[IceCreMan]

All I can say is that others have compared old to new, and didn't taste a difference. But I do not mean to argue, if you perceive a difference it is real enough for any purpose. Contact Mark, and we will make it right, guaranteed.

I know he will but I'm not going to worry about it. Maybe it was something with the run I have. I just wanted to make it known so if there is a problem it can be taken care of. I am noticing that this batch seems to produce more vapor (which is a good thing).

 

[leaford]

That would be the increased VG ratio, and the full 1.0ml fill.

 

[leaford]

I swear sometimes its like dealing with xxxxing children.

Sawlight, they're telling me you couldn't possibly have measured it and must be guessing by eye. I've told them three times you used a digital caliper. AARGH!!!

Any chance you could take a pic of your reading?

Either way, i'm googling digital calipers and sending them an image of one.

Makes me wonder if THEY ever measure these things...

 

[leaford]

This is what I have to deal with:

From our Skype conversation:
[12/24/09 9:35:50 AM] Linda (Kanger): ok . question 2: how he know the depth ? you can't get it by eyes only by machine can be done
[12/24/09 9:36:31 AM] DANIEL HENSCHEL: He used a digital caliper.
[12/24/09 9:36:59 AM] DANIEL HENSCHEL: That's the machine.
[12/24/09 9:38:56 AM] Linda (Kanger): what kind of machine /? he never complain the vapor ?
[12/24/09 9:40:36 AM] DANIEL HENSCHEL: He used a machine called a digital caliper. It measures very precisely. It is probably the same tool your engineers use.
[12/24/09 9:41:30 AM] Linda (Kanger): can you ask your client send us a pict about that machine ? we are quite curious about that
[12/24/09 9:44:39 AM] DANIEL HENSCHEL: So, are you telling me they do not have the same tool? What do they use themselves?
[12/24/09 9:45:57 AM] Linda (Kanger): i am just telling you : your client judge the depth by his eyes . and also it is impossible 0.02 and 0.15mm
[12/24/09 9:46:31 AM] DANIEL HENSCHEL: No, I am telling you he used a digital caliper.
[12/24/09 9:46:38 AM] DANIEL HENSCHEL: Give me a minute.
[12/24/09 9:51:46 AM] DANIEL HENSCHEL: http://www.pursuitspt1.com/catalog/images/47257.gif
[12/24/09 9:51:57 AM] DANIEL HENSCHEL: That's the type of tool he used.
[12/24/09 9:53:11 AM] DANIEL HENSCHEL: This is a well-respected member of our forum. He is not a problem customer, he is not a trouble maker. He has always been helpful and reliable in the past. And he is not trying to get his bad cartridges replaced, he is just letting us know about a problem to be helpful
[12/24/09 9:53:32 AM] DANIEL HENSCHEL: I DO NOT APPRECIATE YOU CALLING OUR CUSTOMER A LIAR!!!!!!

 

[leaford]

I will get this straightened out, don't worry. And I will NOT allow them to try to turn this around on YOU, Sawlight. Not even for a moment.

 

[sawlight]

Crappy cell phone pics, sorry:

 

[sawlight]

Tell them I used to run one of these for a living:

YouTube - CITIZEN A32

 

[leaford]

Thanks, Saw, that will help prove my point. And sorry about all of it, I am very upset with them right now.

 

[sawlight]

No worries, if you need better pics of the ones with little to no slot I think my wifes camera has a macro setting.

 

[leeshor]

Love that stuff, love the Discovery Channel, how things are made.

Quite a lot of super precision going on there.

 

[leaford]

No worries, if you need better pics of the ones with little to no slot I think my wifes camera has a macro setting.

Actually, yeah, the more ammo the better. Why bring a gun to a knife fight when you can bring a bazooka?

 

[IceCreMan]

That would be the increased VG ratio, and the full 1.0ml fill.

Nice. Keep up the good work. That's why I think it tastes more like my VG liquid...it has increased VG. I'll sacrifice a little flavor for more vapor!

P.S. They don't know what a @$@#% digital caliper is!?! That has to be a language barrier issue.

 

[leaford]

Maybe, but there's no language misunderstanding in her calling Saw a liar, that's just inexcusable.

Besides, I have proven to them time after time that I am careful what I say, and when I say something is true, I am almost always right.

 

[sawlight]

No luck with the digital camera, the six I took came out worse than the cel phone! Sorry man!

 

[leaford]

No problem, Saw. You have already done MUCH more than you should have had to. And I appreciate it. BIG time.

 

[Belletrist]

oh, man, i contract sometimes as a translator/liaison between american and korean business... it can be *extremely* frustrating. but it truly helps if you have someone speaking their language--language barrier is often used as an 'excuse' (which only makes things even worse when it's valid). do you know which dialect is being spoken? surely we can dredge up a mandarin or cantonese/english bilingual vaper that can word an ...-kicking email. do it for my husband all the time in korean when he has to work with not-very-compliant folks overseas.

 

[sawlight]

I figure you went there to help us to not have these problems, the least I can do is help point them out so they don't grow!

 

[leaford]

oh, man, i contract sometimes as a translator/liaison between american and korean business... it can be *extremely* frustrating. but it truly helps if you have someone speaking their language--language barrier is often used as an 'excuse' (which only makes things even worse when it's valid). do you know which dialect is being spoken? surely we can dredge up a mandarin or cantonese/english bilingual vaper that can word an ...-kicking email. do it for my husband all the time in korean when he has to work with not-very-compliant folks overseas.

We do have an independent translator we hire as needed. And I will be using her on Monday when I get back to help get this fixed.

I figure you went there to help us to not have these problems, the least I can do is help point them out so they don't grow!

And I appreciate it. I've sent you a PM.

 

[sawlight]

Replied, what I think has happened was the overall length of the carto is too short on this batch, by almost exactly .1mm. If they are checking thes on a CMM as I susspect, the OAL makes that readng look fine, but everything else is off!

 

[Pawpaw]

Damn you're good, saw!