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roxynoodle

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AFAICR: The casing is stainless steel - its highly unlikely to have corroded through. Mechanical damage would most likely be easy to see.

Any leakage is almost certainly from the seal - if that's compromised it could cease to separate the + button from the minus case. If that shorts on a fully charged cell - that's a lot of energy to let go all at once!

There wasn't any leaking. That's why I unwrapped them to check. They're in a 100W mod and that was months ago. If they were bad they'd have gone boom by now.
 
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There wasn't any leaking. That's why I unwrapped them to check. They're in a 100W mod and that was months ago. If they were bad they'd have gone boom by now.

If the electrolyte got away, the battery would simply become dead. The problem of leakage at the terminal end would cast suspicion on the seal integrity - a dodgy seal could result in a short, and possibly fireworks if the cell was fully charged.
 

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If the electrolyte got away, the battery would simply become dead. The problem of leakage at the terminal end would cast suspicion on the seal integrity - a dodgy seal could result in a short, and possibly fireworks if the cell was fully charged.

And yet they are working perfectly.
 

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Okay, I admit it, I overreacted and sometimes you may be fine... but I still stand by my point of unless you can 100 percent guarantee you only have a wrapping anomaly then replacing is better safe than sorry.

It really depends on how comfortable someone is with the technology, how much experience they have with troubleshooting and how handy they are.

I've rebuilt car engines, soldered up model airplane battery packs and I do home renos including plumbing and electrical. The thing is not everyone has that experience and for them things like troubleshooting or replacing a battery wrapper could seem daunting. All we can do is put the information out there so people can decide for themselves what they want to do. Only they know what they are comfortable with considering their skills and experience.

You can never be 100% sure that anything is safe. I walk my dog every day and consider that pretty safe, but I know we could get hit by a car the next time we go out. If you think that's a far fetched example, it almost happened to us last winter in a snow storm when someone took a turn too fast and I had to get both of us out of the path of the spinning car. Push a piece of wood through a table saw wrong and it can go bad fast. Everything in life is like that.

In this case a lot of us are familiar with the issue and consider the battery safe. For anyone who would like to check out what is under the wrapper, I linked to a tutorial on how to safely remove it and then re-wrap if they decide it's safe and I encourage anyone who has doubts either to do that or recycle the battery. Ultimately it's up to each one of us to take responsibility for our own safety. Except for my dog. I do that for her :)

IMO your uncertainty with this battery comes from not having any personal experience with the issue. I reacted the same way when I first read about it and then realized that all of mine were the same. I linked to that thread earlier so people who are interested in learning more about the issue can find it. The rest is up to you.

Now I'm going to take my dog for a walk and then make the last two cuts to finish off a woodwork project :2cool:
 
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If the electrolyte got away, the battery would simply become dead. The problem of leakage at the terminal end would cast suspicion on the seal integrity - a dodgy seal could result in a short, and possibly fireworks if the cell was fully charged.

There have been no reports of leaks from the casing or the vent in any of these batteries. I've actually never heard of any Li-ion battery leaking unless it vented after a short. Has anyone?
 

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It really depends on how comfortable someone is with the technology, how much experience they have with troubleshooting and how handy they are.

I've rebuilt car engines, soldered up model airplane battery packs and I do home renos including plumbing and electrical. The thing is not everyone has that experience and for them things like troubleshooting or replacing a battery wrapper could seem daunting. All we can do is put the information out there so people can decide for themselves what they want to do. Only they know what they are comfortable with considering their skills and experience.

You can never be 100% sure that anything is safe. I walk my dog every day and consider that pretty safe, but I know we could get hit by a car the next time we go out. If you think that's a far fetched example, it almost happened to us last winter in a snow storm when someone took a turn too fast and I had to get both of us out of the path of the spinning car. Push a piece of wood through a table saw wrong and it can go bad fast. Everything in life is like that.

In this case a lot of us are familiar with the issue and consider the battery safe. For anyone who would like to check out what is under the wrapper, I linked to a tutorial on how to safely remove it and then re-wrap if they decide it's safe and I encourage anyone who has doubts either to do that or recycle the battery. Ultimately it's up to each one of us to take responsibility for our own safety. Except for my dog. I do that for her :)

IMO your uncertainty with this battery comes from not having any personal experience with the issue. I reacted the same way when I first read about it and then realized that all of mine were the same. I linked to that thread earlier so people who are interested in learning more about the issue can find it. The rest is up to you.

Now I'm going to take my dog for a walk and then make the last two cuts to finish off a woodwork project :2cool:

Personally I am very comfortable with technology but batteries are one of the few things I won't touch if I suspect them to be faulty.

I do get what you mean by everything being dangerous in some manner or form but everyone's sense of danger is more elevated around certain things, mine being batteries of all kinds and deep water xD

And no, I don't have any experience at all with that specific battery but a similar experience with a different battery that I already mentioned.

Don't get squished by a speeding bench saw! :)
 
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Don't get squished by a speeding bench saw! :)

Thank you, we both survived
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It's very rare for a Lithium battery to be "leaking" anything, in any capacity. Unlike your standard Alkaline (ie: AAA) batteries, these don't have an electrolyte solution coating the exterior metal wrapping. It's much more likely that this is a buildup of the glue that is used to keep the wrapper on.

Do you have a multi-meter? Can you check the battery's voltage fresh off the charger? Is your charger "intelligent"? Is it reading anything in particular for the battery?

The battery is fine. I stopped by the local vape shop and we unwrapped it. Just some oxidation. Rewrapped. But yes the battery charges fine to 4.2v and discharges as it should. But while I was there I picked up 3 Efest 18650 3000mah hahaha! But ones for my tube mod and the other two will go in my Hammond box that i just finished building. The sonys stay in my Eleaf Istick 100
 

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The battery is fine. I stopped by the local vape shop and we unwrapped it. Just some oxidation. Rewrapped. But yes the battery charges fine to 4.2v and discharges as it should. But while I was there I picked up 3 Efest 18650 3000mah hahaha! But ones for my tube mod and the other two will go in my Hammond box that i just finished building. The sonys stay in my Eleaf Istick 100

Assuming you're talking about the batteries I think you're talking about (the purple ones), those are often advertised as 35A batteries. Truth is, they're LG HE2 (or similar cell) rewraps, max CDR is 20A.
 
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