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mgordon1100

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Are you asking for price, or how cheap do they look? They're 5.95 for 5, or something like that. They are one piece alluminum, as opposed to the njoy cartos that the plastic cap can be wiggled off. I ruined..er..dissected one of them. It's got a plastic tube in the center, wrapped by a thin piece of material, then wrapped by wadding.
 

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Are you asking for price, or how cheap do they look? They're 5.95 for 5, or something like that. They are one piece alluminum, as opposed to the Njoy cartos that the plastic cap can be wiggled off. I ruined..er..dissected one of them. It's got a plastic tube in the center, wrapped by a thin piece of material, then wrapped by wadding.

naw i looked at the price saying they're cheap, which is great. lol don't worry i've disected plenty of cartos :) the center tube is for air flow, the thin material is the whick, and the "wadding" would be the filler.pretty sure i got that right. when you say they're once piece alluminum do you mean that there's no mouth piece that you can take off at all? do you order the blank ones or prefilled
 

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No, you can't take the mouthpiece off. That kind of sucks, or I'd be able to put the one back together easily. It's just one whole piece.

hmmm.. that sucks. but if you like em then thats great especially for the price. could always try some boges to but it'll probably cost you a little more, not much though. and youll be able to get the mouth piece off for easier filling
 

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um... where did you buy em from? if they were dual coils you would know.. only 2 companies make them and they don't come with any kits or anything

Thanks for the answer for the filter material above.

I wanted to mention I contacted GotVapes and yep.. Confirmed, The Diamond duel cartos they sell are made by smoketech.. just ta let ya know.

So, there is smoketech and what other company making them?
 

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Thanks for the answer for the filter material above.

I wanted to mention I contacted GotVapes and yep.. Confirmed, The Diamond duel cartos they sell are made by smoketech.. just ta let ya know.

So, there is smoketech and what other company making them?

lol was just assuming diamond was a seperate manufacturer so i guess only smoktech makes dual coils :)
 

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will the dual coil ruin the battery?

Dual coils are essentially like running two 3.2 ohm cartos at the same time. Ego's have mosfet regulators in them and the regulators are not rated to handle the amperage. You will be putting a good deal of current through the mosfet which could burn it out. Also the battery in an ego is not rated to handle the current draw of the dual coil. It will work but you will most likely cause premature wear and/or failure of the cell. I tried a dual on an epower which is very similar and it did work. I won't risk toasting it though. Really you should use something with a high drain battery which can put out the current you need without damaging the battery.
 

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Dual coils are essentially like running two 3.2 ohm cartos at the same time. Ego's have mosfet regulators in them and the regulators are not rated to handle the amperage. You will be putting a good deal of current through the mosfet which could burn it out. Also the battery in an ego is not rated to handle the current draw of the dual coil. It will work but you will most likely cause premature wear and/or failure of the cell. I tried a dual on an epower which is very similar and it did work. I won't risk toasting it though. Really you should use something with a high drain battery which can put out the current you need without damaging the battery.

it is slightly different then just running two at the same time, that would make for 3.2 ohms still. these are run in parallel which splits the ohm rating of each in half in easy to understand terms. turning the 3.2's into 1.6's that they call 1.5's... due to the really low resistance it can damage your battery because it's not reccomended to run under 2.0 ohms, but really there's allot of people that use them on ego batteries without any problems. the first part of that was kinda pointless but if you ever get into car audio or any electricians work youll understand it better:) parallel devides the ohms series adds the ohms. so really they could use two 1.5 and get 3.0 volts and have a dual coil safe to use on a mini battery that still performed better then a standard carto. just something that would be awesome to see.
 

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it is slightly different then just running two at the same time, that would make for 3.2 ohms still. these are run in parallel which splits the ohm rating of each in half in easy to understand terms. turning the 3.2's into 1.6's that they call 1.5's... due to the really low resistance it can damage your battery because it's not reccomended to run under 2.0 ohms, but really there's allot of people that use them on ego batteries without any problems. the first part of that was kinda pointless but if you ever get into car audio or any electricians work youll understand it better:) parallel devides the ohms series adds the ohms. so really they could use two 1.5 and get 3.0 volts and have a dual coil safe to use on a mini battery that still performed better then a standard carto. just something that would be awesome to see.

I'm no electrician (I don't even play one on TV), but was amused by the similarities between car audio (wiring anyway) and vaping.
 

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OK, I have a question for this discussion. Do brand new blank cartomizers need time to break in? The one I'm using now, is vaping a whole lot better after all day using it. Also, the liquid taste f'ing fantastic for the first time.


I use Boge 1.5 or 2.0's on foxys 3.7 box mod..eGo only in emergencies now..I use a syringe for first fill so I get it low into the filler, then top off. They are good right away. I find the flavor drops after about a day of vaping..a lot, so the constant refill just doesn't taste as good as popping a newly filled one on. So I guess I am finding the opposite as far as breaking in goes.
 

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I'm no electrician (I don't even play one on TV), but was amused by the similarities between car audio (wiring anyway) and vaping.

lol everytime i think about electrical work i try and relate it to car audio because i love a loud system :) sadly theres no money in it as far as getting a job doin it :(
 

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Is there a way to get a tighter "smoke" out of your cartomizer? Last night was the best with the one I'm using now. It started out loose, or with a very airy feeling. Last night I had a decent tight pull on it. Not too tight, but just right to feel like I was pulling in as much as I could without struggle. Today, it's got a big airy feeling again. Same carto, same juice. I didn't fill anymore last night.
 

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there should be a list of "rules" for cartomizers... without going over the whole thread again, here's a few factors to consider; the whole what's right for all cartos aside:
airy draw may be the "good" side of the spectrum, where tight leads to clogged..
juice composition is a factor... vg vs. pg... in general, pg is better for not clogging the filler.
burnt filler is an issue for very many,,, health reasons, ...some i know will not touch a carto because of it.
different filler, resistance, coil design, types (510, 901, 801, 808)... pre filled, empty...
how many refills
cleaning
drip tips...
that said, imo, the important thing is health, vapor production, and taste.
Cartos cost a third or less than attys, so there's a lot of room to play with them...
Is there a way to get a tighter "smoke" out of your cartomizer? Last night was the best with the one I'm using now. It started out loose, or with a very airy feeling. Last night I had a decent tight pull on it. Not too tight, but just right to feel like I was pulling in as much as I could without struggle. Today, it's got a big airy feeling again. Same carto, same juice. I didn't fill anymore last night.
 

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Okay, so with these new G4's (filler-less), would you have to "top em off" like you do with the filler ones (to prevent burning of the filler). I would assume, no, because there is no filler. But, I'm gonna ask anyways. :)

As much as I like the idea of not having to drip often, I've found so far that I still have to drip into the carto and keep it moist. Which, kind of defeats the purpose of why I want to use them... now, of course you get more rips as opposed to dripping before having to top it, I guess that's why I am hoping these little G4's can do for me. Give me hours worth of vaping without having to mess with a bottle.

What do you guys think?
 
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