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[Bronze]

David...how is the small buttons designed for clicking? Is there a spring or clicker behind the button or is it mounted on the board or how? Do you remember?

Off to the rectangle for me.

Thanks for the info DOH.

 

[DavidOH]

David...how is the small buttons designed for clicking? Is there a spring or clicker behind the button or is it mounted on the board or how? Do you remember?

Off to the rectangle for me.

Thanks for the info DOH.

It's mounted to the board on four legs. Do a google search on Vamo board and you'll see pics of it.

 

[tntmux]

Something is not right there tnt.

I think I've found what is going wrong. My kayfun is not feeding the wick well enough. If I dont put the tank on and only use the cheminy as a dripper and if I drip in 3-4 drops, I get a nice hot vapor. Once I put the tank on, there's not sufficient juice on the wick, so I get faded flavor, since the flavor is so light I start to taste the wick..maybe in my next order I should ask for extra flavor, so it would cover the wick taste..

 

[Dusty_D]

I think I've found what is going wrong. My kayfun is not feeding the wick well enough. If I dont put the tank on and only use the cheminy as a dripper and if I drip in 3-4 drops, I get a nice hot vapor. Once I put the tank on, there's not sufficient juice on the wick, so I get faded flavor, since the flavor is so light I start to taste the wick..maybe in my next order I should ask for extra flavor, so it would cover the wick taste..

What you NEED to do is figure out why your juice is not feeding to the wick. Did you take apart the chimney cover and see if there's some silica strand or something blocking the intake channels?

Edit: I fought with using mountain oak vapors Southern gentleman in the K-Lite for the last day or so. 3 different wicks in that time. Did not work.. So, the juice could also perhaps have something to do with it..


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[tntmux]

What you NEED to do is figure out why your juice is not feeding to the wick. Did you take apart the chimney cover and see if there's some silica strand or something blocking the intake channels?

Edit: I fought with using mountain oak vapors Southern gentleman in the K-Lite for the last day or so. 3 different wicks in that time. Did not work.. So, the juice could also perhaps have something to do with it..


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I am using 50/50 HHV dragon's fire, also tried 70/30 and 80/20 juice, no major improvement. The kayfun DOES feed the wicks but not well enough, there's nothing stucked in that channel, I payed very attention while building my wicks so it wont touch the juice intake channel but only float on it so it can still suck(dont know if this is a proper word...) the juice.

My friend just told me that my 1mm ekowool might be too thin to bring enough juice, gonna try 3mm next time. In fact the problem I had with 3mm is that it is too thick to put all the wicks in the cheminy, some other kayfun users have reported that they have no issue with 1mm ekowool..it is a mess, I am trying every possibility.

 

[Dusty_D]

I am using 50/50 HHV dragon's fire, also tried 70/30 and 80/20 juice, no major improvement. The kayfun DOES feed the wicks but not well enough, there's nothing stucked in that channel, I payed very attention while building my wicks so it wont touch the juice intake channel but only float on it so it can still suck(dont know if this is a proper word...) the juice.

My friend just told me that my 1mm ekowool might be too thin to bring enough juice, gonna try 3mm next time. In fact the problem I had with 3mm is that it is too thick to put all the wicks in the cheminy, some other kayfun users have reported that they have no issue with 1mm ekowool..it is a mess, I am trying every possibility.

What voltage/wattage are you running with the 1mm ekowool? It does seem rather less specially with thicker juices. I've shoved a 3 wrap of 3mm silica into the chamber but find that I prefer a double wrap of 3mm (total 6mm). I would try doing a double wrap or even a 3 wrap of the 1mm ekowool and see if that helps with the wicking overall.

 

[Bronze]

I am using 50/50 HHV dragon's fire, also tried 70/30 and 80/20 juice, no major improvement. The kayfun DOES feed the wicks but not well enough, there's nothing stucked in that channel, I payed very attention while building my wicks so it wont touch the juice intake channel but only float on it so it can still suck(dont know if this is a proper word...) the juice.

My friend just told me that my 1mm ekowool might be too thin to bring enough juice, gonna try 3mm next time.

1mm sounds way too thin tnt. I think it is clear you need to rethink your wicking on the kayfun. Myself (and most everyone) is not having any troubles with wicking. Let's get it sorted out here.

I can't speak for ekowool because I have not tried it. But I have successfully made both cotton and silica wicks. The cotton wick was a double strand that totaled 4mm. I used four strands of 1 mm silica for 4mm total. The wicks were trimmed to an eighth inch above the chamber segment (without the chimney on) then stuffed back down the sides so it rested on top of the channels. I've had zero wicking issues. A couple problems I see people are doing is they are using way too much wick. You need only about 6mm sticking out past both sides of the coil. That's it. Then I see them staying away from the channels. No, the wick has to lay on top of them. You don't want to stuff the wick IN them, just lay on top of them.

Yes, I have used both 3/4, 32ga wrapped coil and 10-wrap, 30ga microcoil.

 

[tntmux]

I am running 30 awg kanthal 5 wraps 1.7ohm on a APV(SVD) at 3.8V.

Both of you suggest to put 6mm wicks on each side of the chamber, I will try but the space in that chamber is so limited..

I dont know if you have checked on youtube that offcial kayfun promo video (Svo at 7:00 he starts to build the wick), so when I said 1mm, it is 1mm with 3 wrap, then I cut the extra to make 3mm on the top and 2mm on each side of the chamber.

 

[Dusty_D]

I am running 30 awg kanthal 5 wraps 1.7ohm on a APV(SVD) at 3.8V.

Both of you suggest to put 6mm wicks on each side of the chamber, I will try but the space in that chamber is so limited..

I dont know if you have checked on youtube that offcial kayfun promo video (Svo at 7:00 he starts to build the wick), so when I said 1mm, it is 1mm with 3 wrap, then I cut the extra to make 3mm on the top and 2mm on each side of the chamber.

That is a beautiful wick/coil combo that he puts together. Nothing wrong with that one. I think something got lost in translation when you said 1mm. If you're doing it the way it was done in the video, then that's good.

 

[Bronze]

tnt, I use 10 wraps with 30ga and get 1.9 ohms. I wrap my 30 ga around a 2mm shank from a micro screwdriver. Find something that is 2mm in diameter. Do you have a caliper or a ruler that you can accurately measure with? Once you get the wraps done, you should glow the coil and press it together with needle nose to ensure the wraps are sitting next to each other.

Check out this vid. He uses 26 ga and gets .8 ohms. You can use your 30g and get about 1.8ohms and it works perfectly too. But the build process is the same. Just find a 2mm shank somehow. The vid goes real slow but it is informative. This guy posts on the Kayfun thread a lot.

 

[tntmux]

That is a beautiful wick/coil combo that he puts together. Nothing wrong with that one. I think something got lost in translation when you said 1mm. If you're doing it the way it was done in the video, then that's good.

I tried to copy his build, the only difference is I use a thin needle to facilitate the wrapping and maybe another factor is the lacking of my craftsmanship.. I was not clear when I sais 1 mm, I use 1 mm ekowool to do this build, so it makes in total 3mm on the top and 2mm on each side. In fact the only problem in my build is lacking of juice flavor, the vapor production is tremendous.

 

[tntmux]

tnt, I use 10 wraps with 30ga and get 1.9 ohms. I wrap my 30 ga around a 2mm shank from a micro screwdriver. Find something that is 2mm in diameter. Do you have a caliper or a ruler that you can accurately measure with? Once you get the wraps done, you should glow the coil and press it together with needle nose to ensure the wraps are sitting next to each other.

Check out this vid. He uses 26 ga and gets .8 ohms. You can use your 30g and get about 1.8ohms and it works perfectly too. But the build process is the same. Just find a 2mm shank somehow. The vid goes real slow but it is informative. This guy posts on the Kayfun thread a lot.

Thanks for the video Bronze, I will check it later after work. I was planning to try micro coil build, just need to buy some cotton

You seem to put silica in your micro coil, am I right? Otherwise why you need exactly to make a 2mm diameter coil?

 

[Bronze]

Thanks for the video Bronze, I will check it later after work. I was planning to try micro coil build, just need to buy some cotton

You seem to put silica in your micro coil, am I right? Otherwise why you need exactly to make a 2mm diameter coil?

100% sterile cotton balls work good.

 

[LeoRex]

maybe another factor is the lacking of my craftsmanship..

That's what always gets a chuckle from me sometimes... You watch a 'how to' video, done by someone who obviously has done the particular task a few thousand times.... they get to the most critical and difficult phase and they blast through it like Penn Jillette shuffling a deck of cards... sometimes throwing in a "Yeah, that part might be tricky"

??!?

Thanks dude.

 

[smitighe]

100% sterile cotton balls work good.

I am using organic cotton balls right now and it's really nice. I had a tad bit of off flavor in the beginning but it has subsided. I should just stick with my yarn because the flavor was amazing. I guess I just like options?!? Lol


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[Bronze]

I am using organic cotton balls right now and it's really nice. I had a tad bit of off flavor in the beginning but it has subsided. I should just stick with my yarn because the flavor was amazing. I guess I just like options?!? Lol


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It's kinda like...why does the dog lick his ? Because he can.

 

[LeoRex]

Tá díomá orm!

Got my mini RDA and IGO-l in yesterday. First, need to drill out the IGO's vent hole, it's too tight.. easy fix. Nice RDA though. Isn't fancy, but RDAs need not come from NASA. I wish it had the mounting rig that the RDA has (holes the thumb screws), but that's not really a problem. Got a good 1.5ohm microcoil in there now, no need to fiddle with the posts much.

The mini RDA though... First, pic online had a drip well... no drip well... Caveat Emptor... got that. But WHY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH DO YOU PUT THE VENT HOLE ALMOST LEVEL WITH THE DECK?!?!?! Come on, people.... What do you do with a RDA? You drip juice into it... where does the excess juice go? On the deck. What else is sitting nearby? A friggin' HOLE! It's actually lower than the coil!

OK... so I am going to try plugging with a bamboo toothpick and redrilling a higher hole. If that doesn't work well... at least it was only a few bucks. But really? Someone thought that what amounts to a drain hole was a good design idea?

And, on an unrelated note, the cotton wicks I am using certainly illustrated the difference between a HHV NET and a non-HHV NET. I have a Mountain Oak Vapers Virginia Flake RY4 NET... an EXTREMELY tasty juice by the way... and I was using that in the full RDA. A day, not even... I put in the wick at night and pulled in around lunch the next day... that wick looked FOUL.... thick, black, motor oil looking juice/residue in the cotton. I couldn't imagine what that stuff does to the little wicks in an Evod or something like a cart.

Goodness...

 

[LeoRex]

Oh... and I halfassed a twisted 32g microcoil. I'm not planning on using 32 much anymore so I would figure I'd give it a shot. Took out a length, and just twisted it with a needlenose and small screwdriver until it looked like a braided coil... very scientific.

Then I wrapped it around the little screwdriver that came with the IGO-L.... squished it a few times. Came out OK actually, it holds its shape. Threw it on that mini RDA.

Oh... another thing about the mini.. I had to force a 510/510 adapter on it to re-tap the threads... I couldn't thread it down on my spinner or Vamo. Even now, the post is not long enough to make contact with my spinner without the 510 adapter. Vamo makes contact though. Ug.... this might end up being a nice RDA when I'm done screwing with it.

But it came to 1.5 ohms. WOOT! I'll redo one correctly tonight when I have the right tools. At least it'll give me something to do with the roll of 32.

 

[XfooYen]

Oh... and I halfassed a twisted 32g microcoil. I'm not planning on using 32 much anymore so I would figure I'd give it a shot. Took out a length, and just twisted it with a needlenose and small screwdriver until it looked like a braided coil... very scientific.

Then I wrapped it around the little screwdriver that came with the IGO-L.... squished it a few times. Came out OK actually, it holds its shape. Threw it on that mini RDA.

Oh... another thing about the mini.. I had to force a 510/510 adapter on it to re-tap the threads... I couldn't thread it down on my spinner or Vamo. Even now, the post is not long enough to make contact with my spinner without the 510 adapter. Vamo makes contact though. Ug.... this might end up being a nice RDA when I'm done screwing with it.

But it came to 1.5 ohms. WOOT! I'll redo one correctly tonight when I have the right tools. At least it'll give me something to do with the roll of 32.

Congrats! Keep that 32AWG handy. It's good for dual (and quad) coils if and when you get into those.

 

[tntmux]

So far my best build (7th build on kayfun..), it is a DSK/special 8 form build, with 1mm ekowool. This time I was being very carefully to make the wire spread evenly on the wick, 30 awg kanthal a-1 at 1.5ohm. This one blows much better than my previous build, when firing I can actually hear a sound of boiling water. I still feel a little lack of flavor but it is getting better.

I went to my local supermarket and I was surprised that they dont have cotton...what the f...

Sorry for the quality of the photo, I took it with my galaxy nexus, so blame google.