Will do. I saw no need to add more clearos to my stash so I skipped the iClear30's.
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Will do. I saw no need to add more clearos to my stash so I skipped the iClear30's.
This might change your mind about exrta clearos Bronze, it might be changing my mind as well. Long video, but Phil has a ton of good things to say about this clearo.
Their is one more difference between the two sets , the 60 dollar set comes with an extra long tube but the difference is only cosmetic no difference in function or battery capacity . I've noticed one difference from the svd pbusardo reviewed and mine the + - buttons are reversed so apparently innokin pays attention to criticism , always a good thing.
When we spoke with Phil at ECC, he wen on and on about this clearo. He admitted it looked just like a Vivi Nova and wished the aesthetis was more updated, but he thought this was the absolute best vape from a clearo (top or bottom coil) he had ever had. Couldn't put it down.
I don't like the fact that you can't rebuild those heads. The Net's I use are not forgiving..and usually need a re-wick or re-coil every two days or so. The way those things are setup, I'd end up with a lump of gunk in the chamber. 
I'm with you, Bronze. I bought a Ti Steam Turbine to justify my trek down to ECC. The quality of vapor and ease of use still doesn't compare to my KFLs. Gonna sell that one too after only a single tank through it. I've thinned out the devices quite a bit. My juices have been narrowed down to 4 or 5 ADV-worthy liquids.
X, got an inquiry for you. Got a guy on the KFL thread who said his juice always burned. He thought maybe the channels were too shallow. I offered to take a look. I have it here. Channels are fine. Everything is fine. Even his wick/coil looked fine. But sure enough, his juice burns. He has a 0.8 ohm, 28ga, 4 wrap coil. His ID is 2.5mm. Burns everything. Silica or cotton doesn't matter. I rewicked using my 10 wrap, 30ga, 2mm ID and it seems to work fine. What gives bro?
Could be the juice. Natural juices, especially berry flavors and NETs tend to gunk and burn quickly. High sweetener and VG content are another causing factor.
Burns Dragon's Fire with his 0.8 ohm set up. Doesn't with my 1.8 ohm set up. This one is a mystery. At least I have verified there is nothing wrong with his Kayfun. That was my primary goal. He' on his own getting it subohm. Not for me. Too hot!
I just realized something about my Vamo...
Ok...lowest resistance is 1.2 ohm. the ranges say 3v-6v and 5 to 15w... so the max power is 15, right?
Well... it also has a 5 amp limit. At 15w and 1.2 ohms, the current is only 3.5. BUT... 6v and 1.2 ohms just happens to be 5 amps on the nose.
I saw a YouTube video that takes about the Vamo's performance, but I think it was the V2, which had a 3.5 amp limit, so 15 was it's ceiling...
Hmm... must check when I get the chance later.
Ok...lowest resistance is 1.2 ohm. the ranges say 3v-6v and 5 to 15w... so the max power is 15, right?
Well... it also has a 5 amp limit. At 15w and 1.2 ohms, the current is only 3.5. BUT... 6v and 1.2 ohms just happens to be 5 amps on the nose.
I saw a YouTube video that takes about the Vamo's performance, but I think it was the V2, which had a 3.5 amp limit, so 15 was it's ceiling...
Hmm... must check when I get the chance later.
Being DF is a NET, I wouldn't recommend sub-ohm vaping with it. Of all the juices I vape, HHV NETs require the least amount of heat to get a good vape. Since I'm not tasting his setup, I can't reliably say whether it is the juice burning or a hot spot. Some people can't taste the difference, though to most, it is plainly obvious. I have had a KF run great at .7ohms, but my experience over time has shown me that 1ohm on a mech is about as low as you would want to go. VV is a different story since most vv devices use 33Hz cycles, the temperature tends to spike on the coils more even at lower wattage. There are a lot of factors which can affect the performance of the KF. I would just chalk this one up to lack of experience and let the user work it out.
The only way to get the 5 amp out of a Vamo is to stack 18350 bats (not recommended). Otherwise, you're going to be limited to around 3 amps. This is why you may be noticing a power ceiling with low res coils. With a single battery and a 1.2ohm coil, your Vamo won't push much above 3.6 volts or 11 watts.
ETA: When vendors and manufacturers advertize "5 amp limit", they fail to mention that that is only when using stacked batteries, which the Vamo does accommodate. Although it is never recommended to stack batteries, the Vamo's internal safety features will likely protect you and your bats from damage. Always use safer chemistry (IMR) high-drain batteries in your mods. Don't use protected batteries.
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Good advice X and that's exactly what I did. I verified his KFL was to spec and worked properly. I experimented with some subohm (unsuccessfully because I don't have anything thinner than 30ga). I told him to have confidence that it can be done citing other people who have made it work. One guy uses 26 ga and goes down to 0.6ohms. For me, I'm thrilled at 1.9 ohms/3.6volts on my Provari. This Kayfun is awesome! And it still has not leaked a molecule of juice.
X, when I was experimenting with subohm on his KFL, I noticed what you just described. The heat spiked hard...real hard! Those coils were glowing instantly and brightly. And you could feel the heat and hear the sizzle when vaping. Just too hot for that device (I was just using a constant voltage , 650 mah eGO...all I had to approximate a mech). I'm sure I didn't have it fine tuned like you have yours, but it gave me a glimpse into just how hard that Kayfun spikes using subohm.
I took the liberty of copy/pasting your spiking comment to him (with credits).
Thanks X.
EDIT..I meant I didn't have anything Thicker than 30ga (in previous post).
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How fast the coils heat up is relevant to the gauge and type wire used. Nichrome heats up faster. Thick wire (28AWG and thicker) will heat up slower. At sub-ohms with a fully charged batt, the coils will likely glow instantly regardless of the wire gauge. You probably gave that ego a working, though. You'll kill an eGo fast (as in permanently) with sub-ohm coils.
I've had those eGos forever. I don't know if you can even buy them anymore. I use them to dry burn. If they get killed it will just make more room in my bone box.
That's the thing... I don't notice a ceiling.
my 1.2 ohm RSST at 3.6v is pretty docile... At 4.1, it fires on par with my K100... then starts roaring harder than the K100 when pushed up to 5v and beyond. When I push it to 6v, it starts vaping pretty close to where it was when I had the .8 wrap on the K100.
I have IMR 18650s in both, fresh. That Vamo is pushing a hell of a lot more than 11 watts.
I'm going to pay around with it some more.
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