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XfooYen

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RM2 on either a Mini 14500 or a Mini 2.1. I've rarely encountered this, but it does happen. I test ohms before and after dry firing because, as some have learned, mechanical mods don't have much in the way of short protection, and I always trim the backend of the coil legs flush with the back of posts. I'll look a little closer....

EDIT: nope, nothing touching that I can see. Now when I dry fire a fresh coil (after a good ohms check) I tend to hold down on it until the entire coil turns bright red. Is it possible to 'weld' Kanthal together, but then it would 'skip' coils, wouldn't it ?

For an rda.... if the center post is OK.... it's pretty hard to get a short from coil legs. You would have to have a tail from the negative post coming in contact with a tail from the positive post. That takes a little effort :) The other possibility is if the a positive tail is in contact with the deck or the top, with the former being the higher likelihood.

Most RDAs are pretty spaced out. It's not like a coil head for a Protank or Evod, where the positive leg is extremely close to shorting out even on a proper build. If you trim the legs relatively close to the posts once you are all tightened down, it is damn near impossible to run into shorting problems (unless a coil pops loose).

Dual coil drippers won't hard short easily, but soft shorts and arcing inside the connection terminals happen often. There are several things to consider to avoid any type of short and/or imbalance of current to your coils.

  • Always make identical coils and try to install them symmetrically. Small variations in measurements can cause one coil to glow hotter than the other.
  • Always check your terminals for stray pieces of Kanthal before you install. Tiny portions of wire will often get stuck inside the posts from frequent use. Before you do anything, remove the screws from the posts and have a clear look inside for bits of wire from previous builds. It occurs more often than one might think. That can cause electrical problems.

  • Tighten down your terminals sufficiently. Yes, over-tightening can cut a wire, but the opposite can lead to jumpy readings and shorts. The screws can have a tendency to loosen on their own. Check them periodically while the RDA is mounted on an ohm meter. Give the screws a little snug, and you will notice your readings become more consistent with your expectations.

  • The above advice is especially true with the positive terminal. Since the + post houses two leads, the wires will sometimes be positioned in such a way where current favors one more than the other. This is especially true if the wires are sandwiched by the screw rather than laying parallel. If the + screw is fastened tight enough, then wire position tends to matter less.


How does everyone fill their Kayfun 3.1s? I see a lot of folks using those green plastic things...which I don't have. Can I use a syringe and needle? I have to use 14 gauge needles due to 100% VG. Heck, HHV's needle tops won't work with 100% VG...and I couldn't even get Clay's 100% VG NETs out of his plastic bottles. :facepalm: I haven't even tried the 14 gauge needles I have...but I read somewhere that it's best for thick juices. Will those work?

I fill the 3.1 from the top. I never use the fill port because the fill gasket tends to get leaky very easily. Just unscrew the top. Place your thumb over the air intake hole. Fill with juice. Place the top back on (all while keeping the air hole plugged). When you feel the top o-ring begin to make contact, invert the tank. Allow the bubble in the tank to rise completely. Remove your finger from the air hole. Finish securing the top cap with the tank inverted. Flip and vape. If its a little gurgley at first, vape excess liquids by taking slow, steady pulls untill the pressure equals out.
 

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For the folks using cotton wicks a) how many tanks of an HHV juice are you getting before changing the wick b) do you notice a snap,crackle, pop when vaping?

I use exclusively organic wicking (Cotton & Bamboo). With HHV flavor holds good 4 or 5 days, as HHV is a clean liquid vendor. Popping sounds are normal for the first afternoon or so, then disappear. Do Not Dry Hit Organic Wicking ! ! ! Unlike silica, which is more durable, cotton and other 'natural' wicking does not withstand dry-hits, so keep your coils/ wicks wet. After a while the flavor will start to mute or turn sour, then it's time to either remove/ dry burn coils / rewick, or just build another coil/ wick assembly. I do the latter.
Don't know if that helps, IG, but that's what I do...
 

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I use exclusively organic wicking (Cotton & Bamboo). With HHV flavor holds good 4 or 5 days, as HHV is a clean liquid vendor. Popping sounds are normal for the first afternoon or so, then disappear. Do Not Dry Hit Organic Wicking ! ! ! Unlike silica, which is more durable, cotton and other 'natural' wicking does not withstand dry-hits, so keep your coils/ wicks wet. After a while the flavor will start to mute or turn sour, then it's time to either remove/ dry burn coils / rewick, or just build another coil/ wick assembly. I do the latter.
Don't know if that helps, IG, but that's what I do...

Sure does... I am already noticing less snap, crackle, pop but it scared the )(*) out of me at first:) I was just wondering if I would need to change my wick with each tank but it sounds like I should be able to get a few through before changing.
 

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For the folks using cotton wicks a) how many tanks of an HHV juice are you getting before changing the wick b) do you notice a snap,crackle, pop when vaping?

I'm on tank 4 or 5 of Huntsman and it's still going strong. Pirates Booty, I had to change after 2 tanks.. Flavour started to taper off and the wick/coils were DARK!

I usually get a pop with my first hit or two after not having used the KLite in a while, but other than that, I find it pretty stealthy,


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I decided to rebuild the Huntsman wick that I had built last Wednesday just to see how it was doing. You can judge for yourself..

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IMHO, this is one clean burning juice. I probably could have vaped it for another week before it required changing. Mind you, I'm only using this to get to work, at work, and to get back home. So, around 10 hours a day on and off through the work day.
 

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Dusty I'm gonna do the same tomorrow.
Heady vapes in one and honey do in the other. Honestly haven't touched Honey do since Thursday but heady is 2 tanks a day since last Wednesday. Want to see how the navy nest is holding up. I'll have photos tomorrow morning or evening depending on if I fi the tank one more time.

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I decided to rebuild the Huntsman wick that I had built last Wednesday just to see how it was doing. You can judge for yourself..

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IMHO, this is one clean burning juice. I probably could have vaped it for another week before it required changing. Mind you, I'm only using this to get to work, at work, and to get back home. So, around 10 hours a day on and off through the work day.


Nice coil DD. Is that 30g? I gotta do organic cotton again. I think I had too much in there the last. My custard KFL has cotton yarn right now and it's doing good finally. I have an empty KFL here waiting for headys to finish steeping and I'll try the organic again.


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Nice coil DD. Is that 30g? I gotta do organic cotton again. I think I had too much in there the last. My custard KFL has cotton yarn right now and it's doing good finally. I have an empty KFL here waiting for headys to finish steeping and I'll try the organic again.


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Twisted 32g. ;)
 

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Because Reo's cost dinaro's LOL !

I might have misheard, but the device costs as much add the Provari mini.... I think he said 115 quid... no? Not sure how much they are selling in the UK for comparison, but that, plus a p mini might be a ton more than a VV Reo Grand, batteries, AND a RM2.

Cool device, but odd considering the alternatives.
 

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What do you got on there, seven, eight wraps?

7/8 it is, wrapped around a 2.3mm drill-bit. I've found that I like that size for the K-Lite. I could go smaller ID on the coils, but then find that the cotton is too thin, atleast for me. I might try twisted 30g in the future to see if I can get to 10 wraps around the same drill-bit and still end up in the 1.7 - 1.8 range on the ohms.
 

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I might have misheard, but the device costs as much add the Provari mini.... I think he said 115 quid... no? Not sure how much they are selling in the UK for comparison, but that, plus a p mini might be a ton more than a VV Reo Grand, batteries, AND a RM2.

Cool device, but odd considering the alternatives.

It's just an add-on. As you've calculated, it will be a heck of a lot more to buy that along with a Provari, when you could get a VV Reo Grand for around $100 less. But, for somebody that already has a Provari or two or three lying around, it affords them the flexibility to add a bottom feeder using something they already have.

This is not a new concept btw. GLV if I remember correctly had a similar addon for their mods going back about 2 years.

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Heady vapes vanilla custard coil. Used for 6 days and vaped 30ml(plus or minus 2ml)
^ left top new navy nest.
Bottom left is used and Dirty.
Right Out of the chimney.

I used too much wick last time nested or not but at least I know this liquid can't go 6 days now. I'm gonna see how it is after 4 next.
Honey do kayfun build has to stay a little while. Tanks been full for 5 days and I haven't touched it, though I already know it'll stay clean for days with hhv being clean juice.
tapa...talk...
 
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I've become more and more intrigued with voltage drops lately. :) I think it's a cult... anyone who starts using mechs ends up getting dragged down the rabbit hole and starts to obsess with Ohms Law, connections, etc.... And I had some of those Archimedes moments when I did a check of the voltage across the posts on my Chimbus, under load... 3.8v on a fresh battery... so around a 0.4v drop.

Duh... the physicist in me should have known that from the get go... But in any case... What I thought was vaping at 4.2 to 3.7 was actually me vaping at 3.8 to 3.3v.... That makes a HUGE difference. My Chimbus was at .7 ohm and I was a little annoyed at how quickly the vape trailed off. I'd check the battery and it would register 3.7v and think "What that??? That should still be close to 20 watts, 10 watts per coil!"

Derp...

No, dummy... it's actually closer to 15 watts... which, on my microcoils is pretty weak and slow to get going. No WONDER I was getting annoyed. Just as the battery started to hit the meat of it's charge, the vape would fizzle.

BUT... all was not lost. I pulled my coils and carefully unwound both ends a half wrap (going down to 9 wraps from 10)... which was pretty easy actually. All I needed to do was slide the coil back on the 1/16 bit I used to wrap them and badda-bing! What used to be 1.4 ohm coils became 1.2 ohm coils. Remounted them (read at 0.6 ohm) and put in some new cotton... Ah... MUCH better! And, this should double the time I get on a battery (which is awesome)
 

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Heady vapes vanilla custard coil. Used for 6 days and vaped 30ml(plus or minus 2ml)
^ left top new navy nest.
Bottom left is used and Dirty.
Right Out of the chimney.

I used too much wick last time nested or not but at least I know this liquid can't go 6 days now. I'm gonna see how it is after 4 next.
Honey do kayfun build has to stay a little while. Tanks been full for 5 days and I haven't touched it, though I already know it'll stay clean for days with hhv being clean juice.
tapa...talk...

Was the flavour still good, MP? That wick/coil looks pretty bad..
 
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