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I remember that too Leo. Can't have the coils touch each other or it would explode in your face. LOL! Before I ever heard of a microcoil I was squeezing them together. Not while they were heated but after I would make my wraps. I remember telling people I would squeeze them together but said they would always spring back enough so they weren't touching. We have learned a lot from those days. I wonder if my Genny would have performed better with a microcoil. I remember sitting there picking at the wraps to get the hotspots out of them. Man, do I feel like a dolt now!
 

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Honestly, I dont understand the compressed coil design. Seems you want to have the coils spaced to get more heat across a wider section of wick to vaporize the juice. There is going to be a zone of heat transfer away from the wire itself which increases the heated area of wick, plus with the added exposed area of wick available for air flow which seems to be an important part of the process in vapor formation.
Whats your take on the viewpoint?
 

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I wonder if my Genny would have performed better with a microcoil. I remember sitting there picking at the wraps to get the hotspots out of them. Man, do I feel like a dolt now!

Well...gennies (with those ss mesh wicks) are an entirely different animal.... Using a conductive material as a wicking medium makes for some unique handling requirements that wouldn't be eliminated (maybe even made worse) with a microcoil.

I've run microcoils in my RSST, but with cotton wicks, turning it into an auto dripper. They worked great, but the cotton fouled REALLY fast (with Legend).... Now, a microcoil wrapped around a SS wick, THAT... I haven't seen, maybe for good reason as off the top of my head I can think of several reasons why, logistically, it wouldn't work all that well.

If only there was a material where you could combine the wick and coil; wicks well, can take a high temp, but DOESN'T act like a heat sink or is chemically reactive...
 

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Honestly, I dont understand the compressed coil design. Seems you want to have the coils spaced to get more heat across a wider section of wick to vaporize the juice. There is going to be a zone of heat transfer away from the wire itself which increases the heated area of wick, plus with the added exposed area of wick available for air flow which seems to be an important part of the process in vapor formation.
Whats your take on the viewpoint?

I can get both coils to work adequately. I just find micros easier to build and they heat up more uniformly than nons. I put a micro in a Vivi Nova and they perform better. Bigger hit, more flavor.
 

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Lol @ Oz on the amazon shopping!

did my first micro coils tonight. 30g on both, 1/16th for the KFM-1.8ohm and 5/64t2.0ohm for the KFL. Critiques and recommendations welcome. Vaping extremely well tho.
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Edit: I swear photobucket is wonky! I made this smaller and cropped, still the original pic, grrrr!

That's fabulous looking. I can never get ming to look as neat as that. WTG Bridget!!!
 

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Honestly, I dont understand the compressed coil design. Seems you want to have the coils spaced to get more heat across a wider section of wick to vaporize the juice. There is going to be a zone of heat transfer away from the wire itself which increases the heated area of wick, plus with the added exposed area of wick available for air flow which seems to be an important part of the process in vapor formation.
Whats your take on the viewpoint?

For me, it's to get the coil to fit. 11 wraps inside a little KFL chamber can eat up available space pretty quickly. There's usually a tiny, tiny amount of space between my coils though.
 

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Well...gennies (with those ss mesh wicks) are an entirely different animal.... Using a conductive material as a wicking medium makes for some unique handling requirements that wouldn't be eliminated (maybe even made worse) with a microcoil.

I've run microcoils in my RSST, but with cotton wicks, turning it into an auto dripper. They worked great, but the cotton fouled REALLY fast (with Legend).... Now, a microcoil wrapped around a SS wick, THAT... I haven't seen, maybe for good reason as off the top of my head I can think of several reasons why, logistically, it wouldn't work all that well.

If only there was a material where you could combine the wick and coil; wicks well, can take a high temp, but DOESN'T act like a heat sink or is chemically reactive...

Im using an RSST also, my set up is constructed as so...
3mm silica in tank with about 1/2" laying on the deck, a wad of cotton on top of that, a horizontal coil of 30ga with 4-7 turns on a .095" drill bit (1.6 -2.2 ohms depends on how intense I want the vape to be) with a wick of cotton pulled thru the coil with the ends tucked down under the bed of cotton. Stays rather juicy ( as you said autodripper). I wind the coil with spaces that one could probably fit 2 wire widths in the gap... so if a coil of a compressed nature would be 1:1 then mine would be 1:3 basically making the coil 3X wider than being compressed.
 

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OK... we're talking hardware... so I am going to talk about completely DIFFERENT hardware. :) Because I just had to tell someone.

OK, I just dropped VZW and went to T-Mobile recently... and I got two Nexus 5's.. one for me, one for my wife. Nice, sleek looking phone that's a beast, hardware-wise. It's running the very latest version of Android and it is laughable the phones you can get at the same price (it's about half the price of the S4/HTC One/etc). It is Google's flagship smartphone, so it gets all the new stuff...

anyhow....

I notice that there is a patch to improve and optimize the run-time cache on the phone. Companies like Samsung, LG, Sony, all add optimizations to their Android releases... but Google, apparently, did not bother for the Nexus 5. But it wasn't a big deal since, out of the box, it performs on par with the current frontlike phones (like the previously mentioned S4 and One).

"Sweet... let's load that puppy up and see how it goes". Yep.... it improved performance across the board allright, almost 20%. It scored as good as the Galaxy Note 3 and Sony Xperia Z Ultra, the fastest mobile 'phones' (they are as much tablet as phone).... for the price of those crappy 'entry level' smart phones.

So I did the responsible thing... :) Rather than keep things as is and enjoy the speedy phone, I underclocked it to 1.7GHz , which performs as good as the pre-patched stock score at full speed (2.3Ghz), and I'll enjoy the boost in battery life (which should be significant since I've underclocked it by about 25%....

Sorry for geeking out a bit.... but that's like free money!!!
 

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OK... we're talking hardware... so I am going to talk about completely DIFFERENT hardware. :) Because I just had to tell someone.

OK, I just dropped VZW and went to T-Mobile recently... and I got two Nexus 5's.. one for me, one for my wife. Nice, sleek looking phone that's a beast, hardware-wise. It's running the very latest version of Android and it is laughable the phones you can get at the same price (it's about half the price of the S4/HTC One/etc). It is Google's flagship smartphone, so it gets all the new stuff...

anyhow....

I notice that there is a patch to improve and optimize the run-time cache on the phone. Companies like Samsung, LG, Sony, all add optimizations to their Android releases... but Google, apparently, did not bother for the Nexus 5. But it wasn't a big deal since, out of the box, it performs on par with the current frontlike phones (like the previously mentioned S4 and One).

"Sweet... let's load that puppy up and see how it goes". Yep.... it improved performance across the board allright, almost 20%. It scored as good as the Galaxy Note 3 and Sony Xperia Z Ultra, the fastest mobile 'phones' (they are as much tablet as phone).... for the price of those crappy 'entry level' smart phones.

So I did the responsible thing... :) Rather than keep things as is and enjoy the speedy phone, I underclocked it to 1.7GHz , which performs as good as the pre-patched stock score at full speed (2.3Ghz), and I'll enjoy the boost in battery life (which should be significant since I've underclocked it by about 25%....

Sorry for geeking out a bit.... but that's like free money!!!

Went back and forth between the nexus 5, galaxy 4 and the LG G2. I went with the LG for the snapdragon quadcore and I have an LG smart TV that syncs up with this thing flawlessly :) how are you liking that nexus? The only things I don't like about the g2 is that the battery isn't replaceable and there isn't a way to upgrade your memory with an internal micro sd.

Tapatalked from my LG-G2
 

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OK... we're talking hardware... so I am going to talk about completely DIFFERENT hardware. :) Because I just had to tell someone.

OK, I just dropped VZW and went to T-Mobile recently... and I got two Nexus 5's.. one for me, one for my wife. Nice, sleek looking phone that's a beast, hardware-wise. It's running the very latest version of Android and it is laughable the phones you can get at the same price (it's about half the price of the S4/HTC One/etc). It is Google's flagship smartphone, so it gets all the new stuff...

anyhow....

I notice that there is a patch to improve and optimize the run-time cache on the phone. Companies like Samsung, LG, Sony, all add optimizations to their Android releases... but Google, apparently, did not bother for the Nexus 5. But it wasn't a big deal since, out of the box, it performs on par with the current frontlike phones (like the previously mentioned S4 and One).

"Sweet... let's load that puppy up and see how it goes". Yep.... it improved performance across the board allright, almost 20%. It scored as good as the Galaxy Note 3 and Sony Xperia Z Ultra, the fastest mobile 'phones' (they are as much tablet as phone).... for the price of those crappy 'entry level' smart phones.

So I did the responsible thing... :) Rather than keep things as is and enjoy the speedy phone, I underclocked it to 1.7GHz , which performs as good as the pre-patched stock score at full speed (2.3Ghz), and I'll enjoy the boost in battery life (which should be significant since I've underclocked it by about 25%....

Sorry for geeking out a bit.... but that's like free money!!!

I still use a flip phone. I'm one of those dinosaurs who is afraid to be tethered to those things. :)
 

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The original was really cheesy & the cylons were shorter/rounder. The CylonVari is tall & skinny, so I would have to say the more recent edition. After much debate in another thread, I've settled on calling the Stealth, 'Zoe'. Now I just have to Cerakote one of the KFL's for it... which will probably be a while yet.

I haven't finished Caprica yet. No real reason why honestly as I really grew to enjoy the few episodes I did watch. Eventually. Maybe after watching bsg for the 10th time front to back...

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I haven't finished Caprica yet. No real reason why honestly as I really grew to enjoy the few episodes I did watch. Eventually. Maybe after watching bsg for the 10th time front to back...

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I'm not a sci-fi person in general so I didn't discover BSG's awesomeness until relatively recently (that & I saw a little bit of the original a long time ago which really turned me off to it).

So when I finally caved, I had to watch it chronologically. Caprica is awesome. And I'm actually glad I watched it first... it really gave the rest of the series a different perspective knowing the background while watching the series for the first time.
 
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