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So you also vape mouth to lung type draws then? So lemme ask u this: is temp control even beneficial in any way to vapers like us? Thanks in advance, and also for those recommendations I'm checking em out now. 40 watts is way more than enough for me, I've vaped and experimented enough to know for sure that I only need 20 watts max! Not even that really. I know for one, id freakin LOVE to see a compact side by side DNA30 device with easy magnetic battery door on a single 18350
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So you also vape mouth to lung type draws then? So lemme ask u this: is temp control even beneficial in any way to vapers like us? Thanks in advance, and also for those recommendations I'm checking em out now. 40 watts is way more than enough for me, I've vaped and experimented enough to know for sure that I only need 20 watts max! Not even that really. I know for one, id freakin LOVE to see a compact side by side DNA30 device with easy magnetic battery door on a single 18350
Yes (mouth-to-lung, aka 'Tootle Puffer - lol), at 8-12 watts. Some swear by temp control, but it does nothing for me. The basic advantage is that you don't get any dry hits. This can be advantageous if you build you build your own coils, and are prone to dry hits.
I can count the dry hits I've had on one hand. But everyone's different. So no, I don't use it as there would be only little value to me doing so.
Cool -and yeah once I started getting better at building and wicking properly, and on the right equipment, I've got almost no dry hits either. With 'plain old' regulated variable wattage I get a perfect consistent vape almost every time, from full charge battery down to almost empty. Also, thanks for the definition. Now I know that I am a Tootle Puffer, guess I always thought that's just what they called really old vapers or something
The real advantage of TC comes from enjoying greatly extended coil & wicking life. That alone tells you that even in MTL Tootle Puffers you are reaching temps that can be considered as dangerously high with certain juices.
When you get into TC vaping it is an adjustment and a perceived loss of flavor until you realize that change is that you are no longer torching your wick & juice & consuming the byproducts of that combustion.
Cool -and yeah once I started getting better at building and wicking properly, and on the right equipment, I've got almost no dry hits either. With 'plain old' regulated variable wattage I get a perfect consistent vape almost every time, from full charge battery down to almost empty. Also, thanks for the definition. Now I know that I am a Tootle Puffer, guess I always thought that's just what they called really old vapers or something
Have fun! I mercifully took you to the last page.
Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)
So then how does it work? I mean, of course you just want to vape each juice at the point it tastes best and best throat hit right? And how to know what that temp is exactly for your juice? Is coil and wicking life extenended by .... doing what? Just trying to understand this new concept, not trying to be mean or sound critical of you at all... thank you!
Cool -and yeah once I started getting better at building and wicking properly, and on the right equipment, I've got almost no dry hits either. With 'plain old' regulated variable wattage I get a perfect consistent vape almost every time, from full charge battery down to almost empty. Also, thanks for the definition. Now I know that I am a Tootle Puffer, guess I always thought that's just what they called really old vapers or something
Same idea as DP shared... Last page.
The Overlooked Tootle Puffer Gear Thread
Wow, looks interesting, damn ..... I'm gonna have to quit my job to have time to read all these interesting threads
The true answer is you don't. You will lose a but of the throat hit but that you get used to over time. i judge it by what my coil & wick looks like over time and apply a lot of trial & error. I know my coil & wick life has been extended to weeks instead of days.
The real concern is the temperature that our e-liquids start breaking down into nasty things (700F +/-). Many believe that TC has not caught on more widely because vapers have accustomed themselves to and LIKE vaping at, what is essentially, an unsafe temperature. We're still waiting for the final results from Dr. Farsalino's most recent study.
Agreed. While I vape mostly (70% of the time) unflavored DIY nowadays, I rewick my RTAs once a month; rebuild my coils every four or five months. I could keep the coils for half a year but I'm not THAT cheap.
What are any of y'alls thoughts on it then..... do you feel like we may be at dangerous temps ? And that the eliquids may release some bad .... into our lungs at that point? I sure dont know but do want to learn more about it. If anything tho, would yall guess that single coil atomizers at less than 15 watts might be less harmful or at lower temps?
Imagine how those of us who have been involved since the beginning feel. [emoji57][emoji5]Wow, looks interesting, damn ..... I'm gonna have to quit my job to have time to read all these interesting threads
Going that long without rewicking ...how is that again? TC? And it just limits the coil temp to a number you choose or know is safe for that juice? This facet of vaping is all new to me so thanks for sharing yall's experiences and putting up with lots of questions
I believe that many vapers are running their gear at unsafe temps. How unsafe? Well... certainly still MUCH safer than smoking. But I quit smoking to get rid of as many nasties as possible. Others' tolerances for some nasties may be higher than mine. The worst of the e-liquids apparently has less diketones than combustible tobacco. I still avoid diketone-laden liquids. Again, YMMV.
As for single-coils at 15W... I would guess that it depends on the atty (liquid/air delivery), the coil build and wicking. The problem with vaping is there are many variables to consider if you want to think about this stuff. TC kind of evens those variables out and will only get better.
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Going that long without rewicking ...how is that again? TC? And it just limits the coil temp to a number you choose or know is safe for that juice? This facet of vaping is all new to me so thanks for sharing yall's experiences and putting up with lots of questions
Well, I'm a rayon user, for one. The flavorings and other additives (especially sweeteners) are the primary gunk offenders, worse at higher temps. NETs are the worst on wicks and coils but I don't do NETs. I'm a TC convert, with SS coils. This is the best combination, IMHO, until new tech is developed.
Hohmtech has a new innovation that seems to be working now. I'm waiting to see the results. It apparently does TC on ANY wire.
Stainless steel wire sounds nice, that has me interested. Hell I still re-wick and re-coil pretty often using 100% VG unflavored nicotine with kanthal and ... cotton.....even tho its prob not necessary every time. Just a bit of blackish residue on coil that disappears after dry burn and quick rinse of water. Wicks look a little bit brownish from inside coil but the ends are usually almost perfectly white still. Using kayfun (clone) atomizers
Going that long without rewicking ...how is that again? TC? And it just limits the coil temp to a number you choose or know is safe for that juice? This facet of vaping is all new to me so thanks for sharing yall's experiences and putting up with lots of questions
- When I first tried it it was disappointing, NI200 coils were fragile, but I was using too light of a wire gauge and still trying to build contact coils.
- After I tried some different styles of builds and wires, I found I could be every bit as satisfied as before, after I released that desire for the extreme throat hit provided by the combustion by products.
- TiT1 & SS gave back coil durability and tasted much better.
- TC with good equipment also provides a Preheat punch of power so that ramp up time is virtually eliminated and you pretty much get instant on vaping that does not exceed the temperature you set it to.
- Aldenf is not lying. One month on wick is certainly very easily attainable but I tend to re-wick sooner. I usually recoil NI200 rather than try to clean it but have done it both ways. Dry burning with TC wire is a no no but you can do it with SS.
- I highly recommend TC vaping and will point out that all TC mods still have non TC modes if it takes you a bit of time to become accustomed to it.
