Local college bans tobacco products, allows ecigs

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Information dissemination about ecigs is key to acceptance. People need to understand the difference. Once they do, they realize it's not just another way to smoke, but a way to get off the carcinogens and wean off nicotine at the same time. People who say, "Well, you're still smoking!", just don't understand the difference.

Banning ecigs is just the method by which the tobacco nazis show their lack of tolerance for those who try to quit or make the transition to something safer. It's the look of vaping that they can't stand. Never mind that's it's a much safer way to get off tobacco.
 
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Smoking bans on college campuses, especially outdoor bans, have about a 50% failure rate. People will smoke where they want, particularly outside. The only way to create effective designated smoking areas is to place them in indoor lounges (like cigar bars) where smokers can congregate away from non-smokers. Designated smoking dorms and apartments would also be a great idea.
 

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When did "Smoke-free" become "Tobacco-free" and why? There's just no rational justification for it.

On websites encouraging colleges to go tobacco-free, they move seamlessly from listing all the evils of secondhand smoke to talking about how to make the campus tobacco-free, without acknowledging that there is any difference. One of these organizations did justify tobacco prohibition by saying that allowing people to use smokeless tobacco "implies a bystander mentality," i.e. letting people harm themselves without intervening.

That has got to be the weakest argument ever for interfering with the personal choices of an adult. Weak and at the same time just evil.
 

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I'm opposed to outdoor smoking bans too, although I can see them as "not by the entrances". The usual excuse is fire insurance. Laughable.

I think outdoor smoking bans are unconstitutional as long as it's a legal product and not near doorways. And as far as banning smokeless tobacco use......totally unconstitutional IMO. These are the same groups that try to tell you that you can't go into a parking lot and smoke in your own car simply because it's on their property. Illegal. Un-American. Wrong.
 
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